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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1895
Panhard Levassor 4HP Phaeton
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium)
which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"
by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the
evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the
vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in advising. -- Our veterans expert
Ariejan Bos advises this is 1895
Panhard Levassor 4HP Phaeton.
Initially used licensed Gottlieb Daimler engines.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1898 Peugeot
6HP Phaeton
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium)
which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"
by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the
evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the
vehicles shown he did not recognise. -- Our veterans expert
Ariejan Bos advises that from characteristic curved tiller steering
with two vertical handles this is
1898 Peugeot
Phaeton, rear engined
6HP Two Cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1901
Panhard Levassor 5HP Tonneau
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium)
which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"
by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the
evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the
vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in
identification. -- Our veterans expert
Ariejan Bos advises this is 1901
Panhard Levassor 5HP type M2E decuvert,
Rear Entrance Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Panhard Levassor 10HP Tonneau
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium)
which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"
by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the
evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the
vehicles shown he did not recognise.-- Our veterans expert
Ariejan Bos advises this is 1903
Panhard Levassor probably 10HP type M4F or O4,
voiture decouverte, probably the Swing-Seat Tonneau. There was 12HP?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Mors Voiture De Voyage
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium)
which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"
by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the
evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the
vehicles shown he did not recognise.-- Our veterans expert
Ariejan Bos advises this is a
1903 Mors Voiture De Voyage,
or Tonneau
Fermee, which would now be called a Brougham or a Limousine or Touring car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Rexette 5HP Forecar
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle posted on the
internet and says he should know this one but can't think of it? -- Well
known photo. 'The King of Little Cars' one of biggest forecars made, manufactured
by Rex Motor Manufacturing Co Ltd, of Coventry and priced at 100
guineas. Registration is S 302 by Edinburgh CBC but no dating info
left. This one has a single front seat so is probably a cca
1905 Rexette Forecar with own 900cc
5HP SV single.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Panhard Levassor Phaeton
Another very puzzling photo found
unidentified while researching on Internet and saved for future
investigation. Lovely background and lovely subject. -- It
seems the castle-type house in the background was built in 1901 and the
car was built only a few years later. This is quite a big car and it
has the tell-tale radiator filler cap with a point. From a 1890 pioneer
French motor manufacturer, this is a cca
1908 Panhard Levassor Phaeton,
probably 15HP or 18HP. Cars manufactured to 1967.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Unic 16'20 Landaulette
Lovely photo sent to us by Leyland expert
Mike Sutcliffe (UK)
who has a wonderful collection of
fully restored pre-1925 Leyland busses. Can we advise what the second
car from right is ? -- Vehicle
made in Paris, France by company started by Georges Richard, ex
Richard-Brasier. Made range of 2 and 4 cylinder smaller cars and
popular taxis of the period, This one has a London County Council
nuberplater issued in cApril 1909. This is quite big car so is cca
1909 Unic 16'20 Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909-13
Belsize 14'16 Landaulettes
Lovely photo sent to us by Leyland expert
Mike Sutcliffe (UK)
who has a wonderful collection of
fully restored pre-1925 Leyland busses. Can we advise what the other
cars are ? -- Vehicles
left and alternating to right BO 516, B0 555 and B0 178 are all same
make and registered with Cardiff CBC but dating records lost. Made
in Manchester initially by Marshall & Co making cars in 1897.
Changed name to Belsize Motors in 1906. Medium sized cars so
likely
1909-13 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette
Lovely photo sent to us by Leyland expert
Mike Sutcliffe (UK)
who has a wonderful collection of
fully restored pre-1925 Leyland busses. Can we advise what the second
car from left is ? -- British
manufacturer better known for big luxury and competition cars made in
Acton in London where they also made many hundreds of medium sized
taxis for the London taxi fleet operated by W&G
Du Cross. This looks to be a
cca 1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette.
Number plate was issued by Cardiff CBC.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1910
BSA 15'20 Tourer
We avised on HP118
this was Probably
1912 BSA 15'20 Tourer.
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Now advised by Bob Courtney, Veteran and Vintage Car Club Australia
that photo is back to front and thant car still exists. It is 1910
BSA 15/20 with English
body sold to Joseph Parsons of Wollongong by BSA Agent Motories Ltd, of
Sydney. Sold by Parsons to saw mill owner William Watt of Nowr
NSW in 1912. Photo at dairy farm at Wandandian, NSW, driver son
Sidney and William. Sidney, a 'Motor Driver', was killed at
Gallipoli.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Morgan 8HP JAP Cyclecar
Another interesting photo posted on
Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for
identification and dating. -- This
is a British three wheel car built in Malvern Worcestershire by the son
of a local vicar who started in business running a bus servcice in his
Wolseley. Built a prototype of own car in 1909 using a Peugeot
motorcycle engine but built a three-wheeler wit tiller steering. No
doors so is an early
cca 1912 Morgan 8HP JAP Cyclecar.
Earliest Morgan dealers was Harrods Store in London.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Unic C7 12HP Landaulette
Photo received from Peter Trow (UK)
on behalf James Osbourn, great-nephew of Frank Osbourn whose Cranleigh
garage is shown on the photo. In front of it are two cars
unsuccessfully asked the Automobile for identification. -- The
car on the left was made in Paris,
France, by Georges Richard and is a
cca 1913 Unic C7 12HP Landaulette. UK
Agents Mann & Overtons of Westminster. Unic cars were very popular
in London as primary Taxi of the day, and frequently operated by
garages.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
1914 Unic 12CV Special
Couple of photos received from Ian Berg
(Australia)
researching cars connected to dealer Jas A Munro of Melbourne and
Sydney in the 1920s, coach-builder with largest garage in Melbourne
prior to WW1,-- This
is a very difficult one and suggested by Reg Winstone as possibly being
a Unic. We have found no similar body but the spitzkuhler radiator is
similar to 1914
Unic 12CV, but no scuttle tank. So,
could well be one-off coach-built bodied car, built locally by Munro on
a pre-WW1 chassis!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Ford Model T Special Tourer
Interesting scan received from Jonathan
Hills (UK) from
a glass plate negative taken by grandfather in Sudbury, Suffolk in the
early 1920s. What it is? -- This
is a disguised car probably built in Britain from chassis/engine made
in Detroit. Although with wrong radiator, bonnet, windscreen, body,
mudguards, lights.., is a cca 1914 Ford Model T
Tourer. No registration
so could be either original UK coachbuilt vehicle or later 'facelift'
conversion after intro of the rounded bonnet of 1916.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1915
Ford Model T Touring
Photo received from Peter Trow (UK)
on behalf James Osborn, great-nephew of Frank Osborn whose Cranleigh
garage is shown on the photo. In front of it are two cars
unsuccessfully asked the Automobile for identification. -- Blurry
photo without much detail but The
car on the right was made in USA in Detroit, possibly assembled in
Manchester, and is a cca
1915 Model T Touring. Definitely pre
1916 model. Osborn may have been a Ford Service Agent as Ford logos on
the shop window.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Morris Oxford Coupe Two Seater
Fascinating photo received from Clive
Newell (UK)
of father John Newell (1919-1998) and parents, at their home in
Warrenpoint N. Ireland. -- Research
by Chas Moody advises this is a very rare cca
1921 Morris
Oxford Coupe Two Seater with bodywork
by Hollick and Pratt, and having a four cylinder side-valve Hotchkiss
engine of 1548cc capacity. This was the most expensive Morris produced
at that time at £675. Only two survive. Morris Bullnose production
went from 1913 to 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
BSA Model L 350cc Single
Lovely photo received from our Member
Zack Stiling (UK) researching history of
his Hillman Super Minx. Daughter of original owner also sent photo
of their first vehicle, a motorcycle, possibly Royal Enfield, but Zack thinks
BSA from tank. -- Registration
issued by Somerset County Council provides accurate dating of late
1923. The motorcycle is indeed a cca
1923 BSA Model L 350cc Single
sidevalve, hand-change 3 gear. Model was made in Birmingham 1923-1924;
overhead engine available.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Opel Laubfrosch 4'14 Torpedo
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a Facebook page requesting identification.- Well
known example of plagiarism in the automobile industry. Citroen came
out with lovely 5CV and was copied by this one in Rüsselsheim Germany
from 1924 to 1931 with around 120,000 copies. It has continuous small
louvers in the bonnet suggesting this one is a cca
1925 Opel Laubfrosch (Tree Frog) 4'14 Two Seat Torpedo with
the 14PS 1018 cc four engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Reanault 10CV Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from a French
film comedy "Voyage Surprise" (Mystery Tour, also
known as The Bride's Surprise) made in 1947 where
cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Old tour proprietor trumps
rival by offering a genuine mystery trip. -- Typical
French car with coal scuttle bonnet and diamond logo, relatively
difficult to determine exact model. It is cca 1928 Reanault KZ2
10CV Landaulette, but is actually a 2120cc
four 12CV kept in the lower 10 CV tax
bracket.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Cord L29 Sedan
Another most puzzling photo received from Georges Truffaut
(Belgium)
of a vehicle he is trying to identify. "Do you have any idea of
the brand of the car in the picture taken in front of a villa in the
South of France (near Marseille) in 1931. -- The
car looks American in size but perhaps European appearance; perhaps Teutonic?
Advice from our Mark Dawber that this is indeed an American car made in
Connersville, Indiana, by Auburn, a c1930
Cord L29 Sedan , -America's first
front wheel drive car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931
Standard Big Nine Saloon
Another interesting photo sent to us by
our Member Chris Cuss (UK) saying attached
is a friend's father's car for us to ponder on. -- Fortunately
not much pondering required. Two sets of horisontal louvres point to
the Standard Motor Co of Coverntry. Registration KJ 646 is Kent County
Council 1931. Car has a headlamp badge bar. All this adds up to it
being a cca
1931 Standard Big Nine Saloon, the
second batch of 1287cc cars under management of John Black, late of
Hillman.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933
Lanchester LC10 Mulliner
Difficult photo from
Steve Manns (UK) asking
for identification. Apparently it is dated 1939, and taken in the
UK. --
Chap looks a bit like like Rock Hudson? Not much to go on apart from
the molding below the windscreen, wing close to the bonnet. This was relatively
distinctive and familiar but needed a fair bit of research to nail
down. Posh British car firm, owned by BSA. This seems to be a cca
1933 Lanchester LA 10 Saloon 6 light
four door built by Mulliner, similar to their Sports Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1949
Triumph Roadster 2000
Another lovely photo received from Clive
Newell (UK)
this one of a car that belonged to his grandparents in Cheshire in, he
thinks, the 1950s. -- Often
called the 'Bergerac' from the BBC detective series 1981 to 1991
starring John Nettles and set in Jersey. The registration of this one
is KNA 790 which is Manchester CBC March 1949. The car is British hand
built by Triumph which had been bought by the Standard Motor Co in
1944. As this is a 1949
Triumph Roadster it has a Vanguard
2L engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Pre-1980
Firestone Agricultural Tyre
Curious photo received from Simon
Alexander on coronavirus lock-down in Oistins (Barbados)
walking on the beach where he found a Firestone tyre and
pondered its history. -- Tyre
was probably a bumper stop hanging on ship side (fender) and fell off.
Contact with Firestone UK Technical Department, Thomas Molding, advised
the tyre was of an agricultural type
and appears to be quite old.
Their current DOT system was adopted around 1980, and the code on this
tyre does predate that.
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