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Page 69 below relates to enquiries received during 2014Click on picture to enlarge

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Straker Squire Omnibus
A photo received from Geoff Procter, Wiltshire (UK) asking if we can help to identify this further? It was from a collection of photos owned by James (Jim) Thomas (1891-1955) of Lewisham/Bermondsey who ran a car hire business just after WWI.  -- Quite a difficult one. The vehicle registration was issued by West Ham CBC. Enquiry passed to Mike Sutcliffe who positively identified it as a cca 1906 Straker Squire possibly with a Hora body,  of Great Eastern London Motor Omnibus Co.

1906 Straker Squire of Great Eastern London Motor Omnibus C

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Napier 60 HP Tourer
Photo from
Daryl Foster, Victoria BC, (Canada) featured on a number of websites citing 'HD Reids automobile at Cabot Tower Signal Hill St Johns Newfoundland'. Any idea of make his car. -- Number of our experts agree this is a cca 1907 Napier 60 HP Tourer, as has 19 louvers. Some discussion if made in Acton London or Boston Mass. Probably UK. Tower marks Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee in 1897, and 400th anniversary of John Cabot's landfall in 1497. 1st transatlantic wireless transmission.

1907 Napier 60 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Leyland S 25cwt Box Van
Another photo received from Geoff Procter, Wiltshire (UK) asking if we can help to identify? It was from a collection of photos owned by James (Jim) Thomas (1891-1955) of Lewisham/Bermondsey who ran a car hire business just after WWI.  --  Thought we would check with the Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe who confirmed cca 1910 Leyland S 25cwt with S.24hp engine ("L" heads), one of 13 or 14 built in 1910 for the Royal Mails contract, registered B 2207-19 (or 2220) - this one seems B 2214.

1910 Leyland S 25cwt Box Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Lancia Theta Torpedo
A photo received from Christine Haworth, Lancashire (UK) carried in wallet of family member, but not known why. Man went from Lancashire to Australia in 1911 but father stayed in England. Dating could clarify if it is grandfather. Building apparently not Sydney. --  Architecture seems not British. Radiator shape of header being thinner than body, Rushmore acetylene headlight, and the badge logo suggests this is a cca 1913 Lancia Theta Torpedo.  The car behind it is a  cca 1911 Daimler.

1913 Lancia Theta Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Wolseley 24'30hp Landaulette
A photo received from Geoff Procter, Wiltshire (UK) asking if we can help to identify this? It was from a collection of photos owned by James (Jim) Thomas (1891-1955) of Lewisham/Bermondsey who ran a car hire business just after WWI.  --  Bespoke coachwork, and bonnet is hidden, which does not help identification. Two experts agree from the bonnet shape and the wheelhubs that this was made by the then biggest British car maker and is a cca 1913 Wolseley 24'30HP Open-drive Landaulette.

1913 Wolseley 24'30hp Open-drive Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Singer Ten Two-Seater
A photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got! I am enclosing some pictures of my grandfather Charles C Caudwell in his car outside his Suttonwick House home near Abingdon.  Is it an 8'10 Humber Two Seater, as this was mentioned on a 1911 farm sale bill?  --  No, probably its replacement as this is a little bit more recent and a different make. It has rounded mudguards and has later electric lighting.  This is WW1 cca 1914 Singer Ten Two-Seater, post war.

1914 Singer Ten Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Dennis Subsidy Class A Lorry
Another photo received from Geoff Procter, Wiltshire (UK) asking if we can help to identify? It was from a collection of photos owned by James (Jim) Thomas (1891-1955) of Lewisham/Bermondsey who ran a car hire business just after WWI.  --  Thought we would run this one past Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe who advised this is a WW1 Dennis Subsidy Class A lorry, 3 ton, belonging to the War Office and made by Dennis Brothers of Guildford. One of about 7,000, also used by US troops WW1.

914 Dennis Subsidy Class A Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Arrol-Johnson 15.9 HP Tourer
A photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got! I am enclosing some pictures of my grandfather Charles Caudwell in the various cars he owned, location being near his Abingdon home.  -- Thought this may be a Sunbeam but various details were inconsistent. One of our 'smug' experts then advised that it is a rather more unusual Scottish car made in Paisley (1896-1931). This is a cca 1921 Arrol-Johnson 15.9 HP Tourer.  Merged  to be  Arrol Aster  in 1927.

1921 Arrol-Johnson 15.9HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 FIAT 501 Spider
Interesting family photo being investigated by George Layton (Thailand), relating to his family in the UK. He is trying to establish the location and the date of the photo.
-- We cannot help with the location as no specific details visible. The registration TT 1282, is Devon County Council issue of June 1924 to October 1926. The car is a sporting two-seater of Italian origin and possibly British body. It is a cca 1925 FIAT 501 Spider.  As to when the photo taken;  car looks shiny so not too old!

 1925 FIAT 501 Spider

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Voisin Model C5 Skiff
Another from a batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? --   Looked French but confused by being RHD, British style sidelights and knock-on hubs. Advised by one of our sages this is a cca 1925 Voisin C5 Four Seater Skiff. The C5 was made 1923 - 27, was called the 18/90hp here and capacity was 3969cc (95x140mm),  fast car with bizarre paintwork.

1925 Voisin C5 Four Seater Skiff

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Studebaker Big 6 EQ Berline
Another photo received from Geoff Procter, Wiltshire (UK) asking if we can help to identify? It was from a collection of photos owned by James (Jim) Thomas (1891-1955) of Lewisham/Bermondsey who ran a car hire business just after WWI.  --  This is another photo of the Jim Thomas 'beloved Studebaker' which we identified on our Help Page 59 as a cca 1925 Special Six Berline. Here it seems to be at an event that generated much rubbish,  possibly the Epsom Derby,  next to the car shown below.

1925 Studebaker Big 6 EQ Berline

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Studebaker Big 6 EP Berline
Another photo received from Geoff Procter, Wiltshire (UK) asking if we can help to identify? It was from a collection of photos owned by James (Jim) Thomas (1891-1955) of Lewisham/Bermondsey who ran a car hire business just after WWI.  --  It was previously mentioned that Jim Thomas had a 'beloved 1910 Studebaker' which we identified on our Help Page 59 as a 1925 Special Six Berline. Our Mark Dawber advised this as c1926 Studebaker Big 6 Model EP 7-pass Inside Drive Limousine.

1926 Studebaker Big 6 Model EP 7-pass Inside Drive Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Vauxhall 14'40 Princeton Tourer
A photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got! I am enclosing some pictures of my grandfather Charles Caudwell in the various cars he owned, location being near his Abingdon home.   --  The 'flutes' along the bonnet help to pinpoint the make and are said to originate from a detail of a wardrobe. The maker was in the marine business in 1857 and built its first car in 1903. This is a cca 1927 Vauxhall 14'40 Princeton Tourer. Became General Motors 1925. Current!

1927 Vauxhall 14'40 Princeton Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Renault  Vivastella PG4 Saloon
Another from a batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? --   French but confused by being RHD. This is a Renault, post scuttle bonnet period with a grille at the front but the rad still at the back. The radiator slats are vertical rather than horisontal which signifies this is a cca 1930 Renault 16CV Vivastella PG4 Saloon;  made in various forms 1929-1939.

1930 Renault  Vivastella PG4 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Buick 46 Business Coupe
Another from a batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? --  Another American, this one made by a company started by a Scotsman, David Dunbar Buick,  in 1899, who sold the company in 1903 and died poor. Company became Buick division of General Motors. This is a cca 1930 Buick 46 Business Coupe,  which seems to have  a much later rear body.

1930 Buick 46 Business Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Armstrong Siddeley 12'6 Tourer
Another photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got! Father's cousin Molly Finch went out to India, had a wonderful time, married a District Commissioner. Had a Singer. We have this picture of a car getting stuck in the mud. At outbreak of WW2 came back to UK, and eventually went off to California with a GI !  --  This car certainly seems in Indian mud but it is not the Singer. It is another quality British car, a cca 1930 Armstrong Siddeley 12'6 Tourer .

1930 Armstrong Siddeley 12'6 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Humber 16'50 Weyman Coupe
A photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got! I am enclosing some pictures of my grandfather Charles C Caudwell in the various cars he owned, location being near his home in Abingdon.   --  RX 6226 is a Berkshire County Council registration which dates this car as a late cca 1930 Humber 16'50 Weyman Coupe. Humber started with bicycles 1868, into forecars in 1898, into four wheelers in 1901. Humber bought Hillman in 1928, was Roots in 1932, later Chrysler.

1930 Humber 16’50 Weyman Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Studebaker Commander Sedan
Another photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got! I am enclosing some pictures, this of an unknown friend coming shooting to the Grange Drayton Berkshire (now Oxfordshire) Probably 1939 Studebaker ?   -- Right make, wrong year, or perhaps just the year the car was actually photographed. This is indeed a Studebaker, but a cca 1934 Studebaker Commander Sedan, made in South Bend Indiana or perhaps for export in Walkeville Canada.

1934 Studebaker Commander Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Singer Nine Deluxe Sports Coupe
Another photo received from Mark Caudwell (UK) saying 'what a brilliant site you have got ! Father's cousin Molly Finch went out to India, had a wonderful time, married a District Commissioner and had this car which could be a Singer? At outbreak of WW2 came back to UK, and eventually went off to California with a GI ! -- Indeed a Singer, a cca 1935 Singer Nine Deluxe Sports Coupe. They started  in 1901 making mototrikes.  Became Roots Bros '56, then Chrysler Corp '64, -died 1970.

1935 Singer Nine Deluxe Sports Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Ford Model Y Tudor Saloon
Photo from 'Peter Chapman (Spain)
taken in Birmingham UK, not sure if pre or post war but of the late 30's or 40's. From a batch of photo belonging to his grandmother. Could be great uncle Joseph Simnett. DVLA cannot help from just a license plate.  -- Registration is Birmingham CBC March 1936. Four windows so car is a 1936 Ford Model Y Tudor Saloon. 153,00 of these were made in the UK 1932 to 1937, costing £100. Also made in Germany. Note the demister on windscreen.

1936 Ford Model Y Tudor Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Nash Lafayette Sedan
Photo from Roger De Coite (South Africa?) saying 'Herewith a photo of an unidentified car. Can you assist? It is friend's fathers car. Was first car in Slanghoek which is close to Worcester in Western Cape, South Africa.
  -- Two of our experts agree this is a 1936 Nash Lafayette.  Quite unusual as this style of grille and bonnet louvre was only made for only few months. Lafayette had been a maker of expensive cars but when absorbed by Nash discontinued, & name later for Nash economy range.

1936 Nash LaFayette 3610 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Dodge Series D5 Touring Sedan
Lovely family photo received from Don George, Edmonton, Alberta (Canada).  The vehicle was apparently left in the trees on his son's property and appears to have been there for a long time. He was curious as to the make and year of the car.
-- Although quite bent and disfigured, the half of the grille that can be seen is indicative of the make, as is the sideways mounted headlamp. The shape of apertures above grille confirm it. This is a cca1937 Dodge Series D5 Touring Sedan.

1937 Dodge Series D5 Touring Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1952 Armstrong Siddeley Whitley
Photo from '
Numa' (Switzerland) saying the SVVS site " .. is beautiful! Here is to identify a car, it has been registered in Geneva, Switzerland ". -- Car made in Britain with a quality pedigree. Started in 1866 as Siddeley, became Wolseley Siddeley 1905, then Siddeley Deasy 1909, and in 1919 Armstrong Siddeley. Made quality luxury cars, a bit expensive. From single piece radiator grille this is a cca 1952 Armstrong Siddeley Whitley Saloon.  Taken over by  Rolls Royce,  ended cars 1960. 

1952 Armstrong Siddeley Whitley

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN 1920 Luxury Tourer
Another from a batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? --  Nice to receive a photo from him of a car that was not made in America! However who made it remains a mystery; none of our experts have been able to nail it positively. Teutonic lamps. Main contenders are post WW1 early Ehrhardt-Szawe, or similar date but French Sizaire Berwick.

UNKNOWN 1920 Luxury Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:PERHAPS 1912/13 Mercedes
Another from a batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? --  Not really! Very blurry photo which hides most of the detail. The body looks a little Teutonic so we looked closely at Mercedes, Benz and Stoewer. Then noticed detachable wheelrims which suggested American, perhaps Cadillac.  Some thought  Stoewer  was close,  and some Mercedes.  Help?

Perhaps 1912'13 Mercedes
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