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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Pipe 28 HP Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.
  -- Studio photo as background is painted with the Brussels skyline and  signpost to Laeken. Research suggests this is photo of King Albert I of Belgium with family, his crest on roundel on car radiator. Laeken was Royal Palace. The car is c 1907 Pipe 28 HP Tourer, then largest car maker in Belgium.

 King Albert I of Belgium  with 1907 Pipe 28 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Russel Model B Touring
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal). No particular background to the photos known.
 -- Vehicle far left in background, dark and difficult to examine. Bonnet reminiscent of De Dion Bouton but much wider suggesting an unusual car made in North America but across the border in Toronto Canada, by Russell Motor Car Co, 1904 to 1916, Canada's first proper automobile. Possibly is a cca 1907 Russel Model  B Touring.

1907 Russel Model B Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring naming.  --  Impressive set of illumination; like one below on this page. This car was manufactured in Antwerp, Belgium by company that started 1897 with bicycles and motorbikes whose engines also power first UK Triumphs. This has no front door, no scuttle and larger rad bottom tank and smaller rear hub so is the earlier cca 1907 Minerva Type M 28HP Roi des Belges Tourer

1907 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring naming.  --  Impressive set of illumination; earlydays rally car?? This car was manufactured in Antwerp, Belgium by company that started 1897 with bicycles and motorbikes whose engines also power first UK Triumphs. This has no scuttle and smaller rad bottom tank so is cca 1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer. Minerva later made expensive cars, merged Imperia 1934.

1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook requiring naming.  --  Interesting NZ garage scene with 2 Minervas. Centre one has the impressive set of illumination already mentioned on this page but it has beside it to the right a standard stablemate which would seem a same model cca 1908 Minerva Type M 28 HP Tourer. Dating of both cars is helped by the fact that both have a drivers door . Earlier Minerva cars did not have any front doors.

1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Toure

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Renault Type AG Taxi
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not been identified.  -- A open drive landaulette taxi  on streets of Paris  1905-1910  is always likely to be the Renault Type AG, often referred to as the 'Taxi de la Marne' as all requisitioned later to take soldiers to battle in WW1. 1,500 taxis ordered in 1905 for Paris, 1,100 sent 1907 to London, and many sold to Argentina & USA.

1908 Renault Type AG Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1909 Brillie Schneider P2
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  -- Paris joined London in having a 'standardised' bus in 1907 following a competition between nine companies offering steam, petrol-electric and petrol vehicle, won by Brillie Schneider P2 Imperial petrol doubledecker bus who continued the supply to 1911. One overturned 1910, so single deckers took over.

c1909 Brillie Schneider P2

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Rover 15HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook requiring naming.  --  Interesting NZ garage scene with the two  Minervas on the right, already mentioned elsewhere on this page, and, on the left, a car recognisable by the shield shaped radiator as the cca 1909 Rover 15HP Tourer. The shield shape was taken from the Rover Safety Bicycle introduced in 1885. Motorcycles from 1902, cars from 1903, Made 'jet' car 1949.  British Leyland 1967.

1909 Rover 15HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911  FIAT Tippo 4 35'45 HP
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal). No particular background to the photos known.
 -- Car far right with no body. Photo may have been taken in Libon Portugal but all other cars are American. This is an Italian car from Turinn, which could also have been American built  by the American FIAT Automobile Company in Poughkeepsie, New York. This is likely italian cca 1911  FIAT Tippo 4 35'45 HP  (or American 54).

1911  FIAT Tippo 4 35'45 HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 De Dion Bouton DH Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2020 French TV Mini Series "La Garconne" where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Film Paris 191, about a girl who witnesses a murder and takes on her brothers identity as police detective to investigate and clear her name.  --  French car made by one of the earliest and biggest auto makers in Paris France starting with steam cars and later petrol cars and commercials between 1883 and 1953. This is a cca 1912  De Dion Bouton Type DH Torpedo.

1912 De Dion Bouton Type DH

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 De Dion Bouton 20HP Torpedo
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring naming. Thought France. Is it the V8 ? --  Helps to have the maker's name on the radiator and for the people in the photo wearing berrets. Puzzling numberplae with only two sets of characters, more British than French? Car has gas lighting, a very large radiator and the petrol filler on scuttle so is likely the smaller of the V8 powered cars, cca 1912 De Dion Bouton DM 20HP V8 Torpedo.

1912 De Dion Bouton 20HP V8 Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Renault BK 10HP Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2020 French TV Mini Series "La Garconne" where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Film Paris 191, about a girl who witnesses a murder and takes on her brothers identity as police detective to investigate and clear her name.  -- Medium size  French car with scuttle Radiator and bonnet flutes along whole bonnet signify a Renault and sharp corners to radiator signify pre 1912/13. Not much of car to see so is probably a cca 1912 Renault BK 10HP Torpedo.

1912 Renault BK 10HP Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Austin 10'12 Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) requiring naming. This is from their magzine archives, location and cars unnamed. --  Cannot help with the location but can advise that the hotel propriators were F.Paget and J.Cats. The white car with square radiator is a British car  made in Longbridge, Birmingham by chap who originally started Wolseley. The horn mounted in centre top of the scuttle under windscreen  points to a cca 1912 Austin 10'12 Tourer.

1912 Austin 10'12 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Calthorpe 12'15 Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) requiring naming. This is from their magzine archives, location and cars unnamed. --  Cannot help with the location but suggestion that chap in uniform suggests this is during WW1. The white car with round radiator is a British car having success in competitions including driven by Wolf Barnato, one of the Bentley Boys. and having Mulliner coachworks as subsiduary. This is cca 1911'12 Calthorpe 12'15 Tourer.

1912 Calthorpe 12'15 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1914 Ford Model T Touring
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) requiring naming. This is from their magzine archives, location and cars unnamed. --  Cannot help with the location but can advise that the hotel served 'Speights Ale on Tap' and that Speights Ale is still brewed in Dunedin, bottom right, South Island. The two cars on the left look the same and are probably the same model of an American car. Angular bonnet says these two are cca 1913'14 Ford Model T Touring.

c1914 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Argyll 25'50 Ambulance
Interesting period photo received from
Neil Wellman (UK) of Grandad (on left) in WW1 with his ambulance. He was driver/mechanic in the ASC 1914-18 and continued in same sort of job to late 1960s.  -- Interesting vehicle manufactured in Scotland, an Ambulance on a big car chassis of a cca 1914 Argyll 25'50. Argyll began manufacture in 1899 in Bridgeton, Glasgow, as Hozier. By 1905 renamed Argyll Motors and had become the biggest car manufacturer in Scotland. Closed 1932.

1914 Argyll 25'50 Ambulance

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal). No particular background to the photos known.
 -- White car, similar to the one below on different photo, also American. made in Hamtramck, Michigan by company founded 1900 by brothers Horace and John Dodge. Both died from Spanis Flu 1920 (Covid!). Company sold to Chrysler 1928. Now part of London based Fiat FCA. This is cca 1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring

1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Selden 2 Ton Truck
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal). No particular background to the photos known.
 -- Vehicle far right, and second from right, both American, poss WW1. Interesting vehicle manufactured in Rochester, New York, USA by possible inventor of automobile in 1877. George B. Selden, Made cars to 1912 and therafter concentrated on trucks. This si a cca 1915 Selden 2 Ton Truck. Sold 1930 Hahn Trucks and closed 1932.

1915 Selden 2 Ton Truck

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira
(Portugal). No particular background to the photos known. -- White car, first from the right is also American, WW1 era. Car was made in Hamtramck, Michigan by company founded 1900 by brothers Horace and John Dodge. Both brothers died from Spanis Flu 1920 (Covid!). Company sold to Chrysler 1928. Now part of London based Fiat FCA. This is cca 1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring

1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1917 McLauglin Buick Nodel D 45
One from a number of photos received from Duncasn Campbell (UK) of cars which belonged to his father. All were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos later.   -- Quite fuzzy photo and had help on this one via Ariejan Bos on AACA who suggested Buick. Other people pointed to a cca 1917/18 model and one that it could be a McLaughlin. Buicks for export to the British Colonies were normally from McLauglin in Canada so probably a cca 1917 McLauglin Buick Nodel D 45 Touring.

1917 McLauglin Buick Nodel D 45 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918 Oakland Model 34 Touring
One from a number of photos received from Duncasn Campbell (UK) of cars which belonged to his father. All were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos after that.   --  Lovely car with slanting louvers we thought could be a Paige but our Mark Dawber asvised another American from Pontiac Michigan made by Oakland Motor Co predecessors to the GM Pontiac Division. This is a cca 1918 Oakland 34 Touring, - named after an Odawa Indian Chief of the Great Lakes area.

1918 Oakland 34 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Minerva Type NN 20CV Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a post from Doug Bixley of pages from the sales book of Tourist Motors, who were the Minerva agents. The caption says 1931 but Mark thinks 1921 is more likely, going by the 'return to prewar prices' advertising.  --  This car was made in Antwerp, Belgium by company that started 1897 and earlier exapples have been identified on this page. This is not 1931 but just post WW1 c1920 Minerva NN Tourer.

1907 Minerva Type NN 20CV Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1924 Rolls Royce 20HP Waring Tourer 
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a NZ facebook post requiring naming.  -- Has the feel of a Rolls Roce but with 'American' overtones. Was confirmed by the Rolls Royce expert Tome Clarke as an early Rolls Royce 'Twenty', with only two wheel braking, smaller car to the Silver Ghost 40'50, built between 1922 and 1929. Front brakes appeared in 1925. The coachwork looks of the pattern type made by Waring Brothers of Melbourne, in Australia.

c1924 Rolls Royce 20HP Waring Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927 Moon 6-60 Roadster
One from a number of photos received from Duncasn Campbell (UK) of cars which belonged to his father. All were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos later.   -- This one was a bit of a puzzle as relatively normal shape American Roadster but has a wavy bonnet and 'Minerva-like' rounded radiator. Not a Dianna. Advised by our Mark Dawber that this is very unusual cca 1927 Moon 6-60 Roadster, a sister marque to Dianna, normally Rolls rad, and only had this rad for a year.

1927 Moon 6-60 Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928 Singer Junior Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring naming.  Photo of the local post office and Postmaster  Walter Strawbridge. Even today only a few people live at Oaro. The area suffered a lot of damage in the big earthquake of November 2016. --  Badge suggests the British Singer company. Smallish car with low headlamps and starting handle going through rad surround suggests cca 1928 Singer Junior Tourer, 848 OHC.

1928 Singer Junior Tourer
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