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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Pipe 28 HP Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards
of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been
identified. -- Studio
photo as background is painted with the Brussels skyline and
signpost to Laeken. Research suggests this is photo of King Albert I of
Belgium with family, his crest on roundel on car radiator. Laeken was
Royal Palace. The car is c
1907 Pipe 28 HP Tourer, then largest
car maker in Belgium.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Russel Model B Touring
Another request for identification of a
vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal).
No particular background to the photos
known. -- Vehicle
far left in background, dark and difficult to examine. Bonnet
reminiscent of De Dion Bouton but much wider suggesting an unusual car
made in North America but across the border in Toronto Canada, by
Russell Motor Car Co, 1904 to 1916, Canada's first proper automobile.
Possibly is a
cca 1907 Russel Model B Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post requiring naming. -- Impressive
set of illumination; like one below on this page. This car was manufactured
in Antwerp, Belgium by company that started 1897 with bicycles and
motorbikes whose engines also power first UK Triumphs. This has no
front door, no scuttle and larger rad bottom tank and smaller rear hub so is
the earlier cca
1907 Minerva Type M 28HP Roi des Belges Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post requiring naming. -- Impressive
set of illumination; earlydays rally car?? This car was manufactured
in Antwerp, Belgium by company that started 1897 with bicycles and
motorbikes whose engines also power first UK Triumphs. This has no
scuttle and smaller rad bottom tank so is cca
1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer.
Minerva later made expensive cars, merged Imperia 1934.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Minerva Type M 28HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
from a facebook requiring naming.
-- Interesting
NZ garage scene with 2 Minervas. Centre one has the impressive set of
illumination already mentioned on this page but it has beside it to the
right a standard stablemate which would seem a same model cca 1908
Minerva Type M 28 HP Tourer. Dating of both cars is helped by the fact
that both have a drivers door . Earlier Minerva cars did not have any
front doors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Renault Type AG Taxi
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or
postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not been
identified. -- A
open drive landaulette taxi on
streets of Paris 1905-1910 is always likely to be the Renault
Type AG, often referred to as the
'Taxi de la Marne' as all requisitioned later to take soldiers to
battle in WW1. 1,500 taxis ordered in 1905 for Paris, 1,100 sent 1907
to London, and many sold to Argentina & USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1909 Brillie Schneider P2
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or
postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been
identified. -- Paris
joined London in having a 'standardised' bus in 1907 following a
competition between nine companies offering steam, petrol-electric and
petrol vehicle, won by Brillie
Schneider P2 Imperial petrol
doubledecker bus who continued the supply to 1911. One overturned 1910,
so single deckers took over.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Rover 15HP Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
from a facebook requiring naming.
-- Interesting
NZ garage scene with the two Minervas on the right, already
mentioned elsewhere on this page, and, on the left, a car recognisable
by the shield shaped radiator as the cca
1909 Rover 15HP Tourer. The shield
shape was taken from the Rover Safety Bicycle introduced in 1885.
Motorcycles from 1902, cars from 1903, Made 'jet' car
1949. British Leyland 1967.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1911 FIAT Tippo 4 35'45 HP
Another request for identification of a
vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal).
No particular background to the photos
known. -- Car
far right with no body. Photo may have been taken in Libon Portugal but
all other cars are American. This is an Italian car from
Turinn, which could also have been American built by the American
FIAT Automobile Company in Poughkeepsie, New York. This is likely
italian cca
1911 FIAT Tippo 4 35'45 HP (or American 54).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 De Dion Bouton DH Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2020
French TV Mini Series "La Garconne" where cars being
investigated by IMCDB. Film
Paris 191, about a girl who witnesses a murder
and takes on her brothers identity as police detective to investigate
and clear her name. --
French car made by one of the earliest
and biggest auto makers in Paris France starting with steam cars and
later petrol cars and commercials between 1883 and
1953. This is a
cca 1912
De Dion
Bouton Type DH Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 De Dion Bouton 20HP Torpedo
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post requiring naming. Thought France. Is it the V8 ?
-- Helps
to have the maker's name on the radiator and for the people in the
photo wearing berrets. Puzzling numberplae with only two sets of characters, more British than French? Car has gas lighting,
a very
large radiator and the petrol filler on scuttle so is likely the
smaller of the V8 powered cars, cca
1912 De Dion Bouton DM 20HP V8 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 Renault BK 10HP Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2020
French TV Mini Series "La Garconne" where cars being
investigated by IMCDB. Film
Paris 191, about a girl who witnesses a murder
and takes on her brothers identity as police detective to investigate
and clear her name. -- Medium
size French car with scuttle Radiator and bonnet flutes along
whole bonnet signify a Renault and sharp corners to radiator signify
pre 1912/13. Not much of car to see so is probably a cca
1912 Renault BK 10HP Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 Austin 10'12 Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) requiring naming. This
is from their magzine archives, location and cars unnamed. -- Cannot
help with the location but can advise that the hotel propriators were
F.Paget and J.Cats. The white car with square radiator is a British
car made in Longbridge, Birmingham by chap who originally started
Wolseley. The horn mounted in centre top of the scuttle under
windscreen points to a
cca 1912 Austin 10'12 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 Calthorpe 12'15 Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) requiring naming. This
is from their magzine archives, location and cars unnamed.
-- Cannot
help with the location but suggestion that chap in uniform suggests
this is during WW1. The white car with round radiator is a British car
having success in competitions including driven by Wolf Barnato, one of
the Bentley Boys. and having Mulliner coachworks as subsiduary. This is
cca
1911'12 Calthorpe 12'15 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1914 Ford Model T Touring
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) requiring naming. This
is from their magzine archives, location and cars unnamed.
-- Cannot
help with the location but can advise that the hotel served 'Speights
Ale on Tap' and that Speights Ale is still brewed in Dunedin, bottom
right, South Island. The two cars on the left look the same and are
probably the same model of an American car. Angular bonnet says these two are cca
1913'14 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914 Argyll 25'50 Ambulance
Interesting period photo received from Neil
Wellman (UK)
of Grandad (on left) in WW1 with his ambulance. He was
driver/mechanic in the ASC 1914-18 and continued in same sort of job to
late 1960s. -- Interesting
vehicle manufactured in Scotland, an
Ambulance on a big car chassis of a cca
1914 Argyll 25'50. Argyll began
manufacture in 1899 in Bridgeton, Glasgow, as Hozier. By 1905 renamed
Argyll Motors and had become the biggest car manufacturer in Scotland.
Closed 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring
Another request for identification of a
vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal).
No particular background to the photos
known. -- White
car, similar to the one below on different photo, also American. made
in Hamtramck, Michigan by company founded 1900 by brothers Horace and
John Dodge. Both died from Spanis Flu 1920 (Covid!). Company sold to
Chrysler 1928. Now part of London based Fiat FCA. This is cca
1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Selden 2 Ton Truck
Another request for identification of a
vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal).
No particular background to the photos
known. -- Vehicle
far right, and second from right, both American, poss WW1. Interesting
vehicle manufactured in Rochester, New
York, USA by possible inventor of automobile in 1877. George B. Selden,
Made cars to 1912 and therafter concentrated on trucks. This si a cca
1915 Selden 2 Ton Truck. Sold 1930
Hahn Trucks and closed 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring
Another request for identification of a
vehicles received from our regular contributor Joćo Ferreira (Portugal).
No particular background to the photos
known. -- White
car, first from the right is also American, WW1 era. Car was made in
Hamtramck, Michigan by company founded 1900 by brothers Horace and John
Dodge. Both brothers died from Spanis Flu 1920 (Covid!). Company sold
to Chrysler 1928. Now part of London based Fiat FCA. This is cca
1915 Dodge Brothers 30-35 Touring
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1917 McLauglin Buick Nodel D 45
One from a number of photos received from
Duncasn Campbell (UK)
of cars which belonged to his father. All
were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos later.
-- Quite
fuzzy photo and had help on this one via Ariejan Bos on AACA who
suggested Buick. Other people pointed to a cca 1917/18 model and one
that it could be a McLaughlin. Buicks for export to the British
Colonies were normally from McLauglin in Canada so probably a cca
1917 McLauglin Buick Nodel D 45 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1918 Oakland Model 34 Touring
One from a number of photos received from
Duncasn Campbell (UK)
of cars which belonged to his father. All
were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos after
that. -- Lovely
car with slanting louvers we thought could be a Paige but our Mark
Dawber asvised another American from Pontiac Michigan made by Oakland
Motor Co predecessors to the GM Pontiac Division. This is a
cca 1918 Oakland 34 Touring, - named
after an Odawa Indian Chief of the Great Lakes area.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1920 Minerva Type NN 20CV Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a post from Doug Bixley of pages from the sales book of
Tourist Motors, who were the Minerva agents. The caption says 1931 but
Mark thinks 1921 is more likely, going by the 'return to prewar prices'
advertising. --
This car was made in Antwerp, Belgium by company that started 1897
and earlier exapples have been identified on this page. This is not
1931 but just post WW1 c1920
Minerva NN Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1924
Rolls Royce 20HP Waring Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a NZ facebook post requiring naming. -- Has
the feel of a Rolls Roce but with 'American' overtones. Was confirmed
by the Rolls Royce expert Tome Clarke as an early Rolls
Royce 'Twenty', with only two wheel
braking, smaller car to the Silver
Ghost 40'50, built between 1922 and
1929. Front brakes appeared in 1925. The
coachwork looks of the pattern type made by Waring Brothers of
Melbourne, in Australia.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Moon 6-60 Roadster
One from a number of photos received from
Duncasn Campbell (UK)
of cars which belonged to his father. All
were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos later.
-- This one
was a bit of a puzzle as relatively normal shape American Roadster but
has a wavy bonnet and 'Minerva-like' rounded radiator. Not a Dianna.
Advised by our Mark Dawber that this is very unusual cca 1927 Moon 6-60
Roadster, a sister marque to Dianna, normally Rolls rad, and only had
this rad for a year.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928 Singer Junior Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post requiring naming. Photo of the local
post office and Postmaster Walter Strawbridge. Even today only a
few people live at Oaro. The area suffered a lot of damage in the big
earthquake of November 2016. -- Badge
suggests the British Singer company. Smallish car with low headlamps
and starting handle going through rad surround suggests cca
1928 Singer Junior Tourer, 848 OHC.
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