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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
 1900
Simms' Patent 'Motor Wheel'
Quite unique photo received from Mike
Brewster (UK) of his relatives on in
a motorised tricycle c1900-10. Driver may be Frederick Richard Simms ? -- Single
steered rear wheel and two forward driven wheels, engine under
passenger. A short lived cca 1900 Simms's 'Motor Wheel'
made by The
Motor Carriage Supply Co. Considered a bit unstable and made for only
one year, designed by Frederick Richard Simms who was one of the
founders of the British Motor Industry, and of Brighton Run.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1905
Napier 28HP Tourer
Couple of lovely photos received from Jane
Robinson (UK) who
is researching family history and found this picture dated about 1907/8.
Husband's family owned the house and car. Any ideas what make it is?
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Registration looks like LC 2142 which is a London CC issue of mid 1905.
The car is an expensive luxury vehicle with a racing pedigree. This is a cca
1905 Napier 28HP Tourer made in Acton
London in a factory with 1200 men. Became very important in aero engines
for WW1 and WW2.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
St Louis 32'36 Touring
Another puzzling photo posted on the AACA website,
this by Eddistone, asking if anyone can identify this old family car?
Tradition says it is a Crestmobile, but he doubts it. --
Various makes put forward but I think it is a lot more obscure. I am
relatively sure this is a cca
1906 St Louis 32'36 Touring. Initially
St Louis Motor Carriage Co, St Louis, then SLM Car Co,
Peoria Ill. Luxury well built car with a 4 cylinder engine of '30-40
Actual HP'. Went into receivership 1907. Original SLMCC became Dorris.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly
cca 1906 Clement Bayard
Another set of lovely photographs from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Unknown race in
Romania. Do we know what the cars are? --
Another where a lot of head scratching went on and is not a definite
identification. The resolution of the photos is too poor to permit
accurate identification. No ideas on
the back facing cars but feel from the rad that the one facing could be
a cca
1906 Clement Bayard 35HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Lorraine Deitrich & Gobron Brillie
Another lovely photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Race in Romania
1908 Baneasa-Bucuresti. What are the cars? --
The one on the right was relatively easy from the scalloped bonnet
being a cca 1907
Lorraine Deitrich
involving Ettore Bugatti. The other car was a little more difficult
having a quite large radiator and a deeply bowed front axle, being cca1907
Gobron-Brillie, opposed pistons!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910
Lorraine Dietrich Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from an British
short film " London's Free Shows" made in 1924, part of
'Wonderful London' DVD 2012, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Film is full of street scenes showing how
rare vehicles were amongst horses and carts. --
This is from a French manufacturer who established
company and factory in the UK in 1907 at Selly Oak, Birmingham, making
one model of car. This is a cca
1910 Lorraine Dietrich 20HP Landaulette.
British company folded 1911.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Hotchkiss 18'22 Landaulette
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by Tjitske van Lievenoogen asking if anybody can identify the mystery
car. The man in the picture is his grandfather, died 1934.
The licence number is from 1925, but the car is older, 1907 or
therabouts and location is The Hague. -- We
feel it had been miss-identified
as a Dutch cca 1907 Spyker but we are relatively sure this car is
French and it is a cca
1911 Hotchkiss 18'22 Landaulette.
Hotchkiss bonnets were corrugated along full length.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1911
Bianchi 20'30 Lorry
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
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Truck which seems to be car sized with a lorry back added. The faint
badge seems to be an eagle with a cross shield, bonnet has three louvres
and photo has 1917 on it. This would seem to be a
cca 1911 Bianchi 20'30 conversion.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
1914
De Dion Bouton Tourer
Another photograph posted on the AACA website
by Leif Holmberg (Sweden) asking if anybody can identify the mystery
car he is helping a museum with. Military
orientated car; Swedish air force emblem. Stoewer? -- Stoewer
had rounded top radiators in period. We don't think this is German but
French. Looks very much like a cca
1914 De Dion Bouton Tourer. Gas lamps,
no filler cap on scuttle, pre WW1 and used in the war. Looks like one
of the smaller fours; EX DX EK or EL.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
FIAT 52B Torpedo
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
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This seems to be a cca
1914 FIAT 52B Torpedo which looks to be
fitted with electric sidelights on windscreen support but has older gas headlamps.
Electrics came about 1914. It also has the later
pear shaped radiator.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1915
FIAT 18BL Lorry
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
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Interesting photo of a truck having nearly nose dived into the abyss.
Lots of soldiers so probably part of a WW1 army convoy. Chain drive and
three louvres suggest cca1915
FIAT 18BL Lorry. Over 20,000 made.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916
Winton Six Model 33 Fire-engine
Another photograph posted on the AACA website
by Leif Holmberg (Sweden) asking if anybody can identify the mystery
car he is helping a museum with. Fire-engine based on a beautiful car!
-- Indeed
a very nice machine. Chassis is American made in Cleveland, Ohio by
Scottish immigrant who had made one of USA's first cars in 1897,
Alexander Winton. This is a cca
1916 Winton Six Model 33 with a fire-engine body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1918
Ford Model TT Lorry
Blurry photo received from Akshay Singh
Maksudpur (India) showing
The Maharaja of Tikari, Gaya, Bihar (centre in blazer) with son Amar
Singh (on tiger) returning from a tiger shoot with tiger and wild boar.
The Maharaja was an automobile racer in exotic machinery in UK and
India. -- This
is an American utility vehicle, a cca
1918 Ford Model TT lorry chassis, local
body. Ford Model TT 1 ton truck was
made 1918 to 1927 only in chassis form. After 1924 also
available with factory body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1919
Daimler 45 Chassis Rebodied
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by Marino Ferrari asking if anybody can identify the mystery car with
an interesting body shown in the picture? -- The
chassis and body are from two different periods. The bulbous scuttle is
indicative of pre/post WW1 period, no cars built for duration. The
curvature and length of the bonnet suggests this is a
cca 1919 Daimler 45 chassis which
would have had a period body, but replaced later by a delightful mid
20s body, wheels, mudguards & lights.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Presto P8 8’25 Tourer
Another photograph posted on the AACA website
by Leif Holmberg (Sweden) asking if anybody can identify the mystery
car he is helping a museum with. Probably
a a European car, possibly Horch? -- Confirmed
not a
Scania Vabis. Horch
had rounded oval radiators in period. This has flat edges and badge
is raised and central. We think this is a German
car carried over and made just after WW1, before they changed to
spitzkuhler rads. We think this is a cca
1918’19 Presto P8 8’25 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1920
Maxwell Model 25 Touring
A little blurry photo received from Melissa
Peakman (UK) saying
she has this photograph of her Grandfather, believe taken in the
early 1920s, when he was employed as a Chauffeur in Morayshire,
Scotland. Can we identify the make of vehicle please? -- Reg
is Elgin CC. Looks American. Although the badge is quite visible it is
blurry and had damage which we have repaired. Our Mark Dawber suggested
a Maxwell from Detroit, and indeed it is a cca
1920 Maxwell Model 25 33hp Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Oldsmobile 45B Touring
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs which are not
identified or misidentified. This item refers to albums delivered to
Wright State University by Thomas Glessner Weaver
(USA)
about Noel Elwood Weaver. --
Photo is tagged as a Buick but the rounded
radiator says it is a cca 1920 Oldsmobile 45B Touring. Oldsmobile had
rounded rads cca 1917 to cca 1925. The triangular shaped bumper
bar came in cca 1920.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Crow-Elkhart L65 Tourer
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
of grandfathers car. The photo is from 1921 when the car was bought
new. Note the radiator line, the left hand drive and the special rims.
Can anyone help? -- This
photo remained unidentified for some time despite the rather obvious
heart shaped radiator. The rims indicated that the car was American.
This is a cca
1921 Crow-Elkhart L65 Tourer, made in
Elkhart, Indiana when the company was going
down. They also made the Morriss
London car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Austin 12'4 Clifton Tourer
Another Photo received from Simon Powell (Caymen
Islands). Photo is of his my grandmother
and grandfather (and a friend), sitting on a car! This would probably be
between 1928 and 1932. --
Registration MH is Middlesex and the numbers suggest early 1925. By the
time of the photo was taken the car had received a few dents. This is a
cca 1925 Austin 12'4 Clifton Tourer, of which 88,000 were made. 12.8 HP,
1661cc, 20BHP, 45mpg touring, 27mpg, and cost £550. Known as Heavy
Twelve.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925
Minerva 30HP Tourer
Lovely photo received from Ruddy
Sommereyns (Belgium) who
found the negative at a local fleamarket and would like to know what
brand of car it shows?
-- Very grand
big car but unfortunately the radiator and bonnet are blurred so do not
show the scallops in both. Fortunately it is possible to see the exposed
half of the rear spring which confirms Belgian origin of the car. The
car is a cca
1925 Minerva 30HP Tourer but we have
not been able to identify precise coachbuilder, if not by works.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925 Ford Model T Touring
Cinema screen grab taken from an Australian
television drama series 'Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries' first broadcast
in 2012, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a glamorous private detective
in 1920s Melbourne. --
Transverse spring so confirming Ford
Model T, and rounded bonnet with six
louvers which signify the car was made at the end of 1925. Multilouvre
bonnets started soon after. Nickle plated radiator was available as an
optional extra from 1926 on Tourers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Morris Commercial T-Type
Another Photo received from Simon Powell (Caymen
Islands) who lived in Cheadle Hulme, Manchester. This
was the delivery truck for his Grandfather's Nursery, in Northenden,
Cheshire. --
Very grainy photo and a bit indistinct at the front of the vehicle but
from the bonnet and the cab, and especially the wheels, we are
relatively sure this is a cca
1926 Morris Commercial T Type 1-Ton Drop-side Truck.
Morris bought EG Wrigley in 1924 to built light commercials.
Became Morris Motors 1936.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca
1929 Nash Standard Six Sedan
Cinema screen grab taken from an Australian
television drama series 'Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries' first broadcast
in 2012, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a glamorous private detective
in 1920s Melbourne. --
This is an American cca
1929 Nash 420 Standard Six Sedan. The
headlamp does not have the slight peak on the hedalamp of the
'Advanced', nor the double row of louvres of the 'Special'. The badge is
new snakeskin design, and has twin bar bumper.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
Francis Barnett 172 Super Sports
Photograph posted on the Rootschat website
by Bonnie Jean (UK)
asking if anybody can identify and date the
motorcycle from the family archives. Grandfather lived in Nova Scotia,
Canda. -- Our
motorcycle experts agree that this is a cca 1929 Francis Barnett
1.75bhp Super Sports No.9, with a type BZ Villiers 172cc two stroke
single engine. Technically interesting, were good performers on 1927
International Six Days Trophy and took class race
record at Brooklands at 61.92 mph.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938 Morris 8 Series II Tourer
Another Photo received from Simon Powell (Caymen
Islands). Photo is of his relatives at
Silverstone watching the racing. They would open the roof, put a plank
across the body, and two of them could stand on the plank and watch the
racing! --
Plus two on the scuttle or bring your own ladder, as on car behind !!
Fortunately quite easy to identify because the badge is plainly visible
and the grille has chrome vertical separators made for one year so can
only be a cca 1938 Morris 8 Series II
Tourer.
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