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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 46 below relates to enquiries received
during
2012 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Darracq Rear Entrance Tonneau
Request received from site Edinphoto
run by Peter Stubbs (UK) with
thousands of photos relating to Edinburgh, asking if we can identify car
with Boys Brigade people at Gillespie Place. --
Difficult one identified by one of our venerable 'veteran' experts, Tim
Harding, who is rarely wrong, who says it is a cca
1903 Darracq, probably the 8HP. The
steering wheel column gear change is apparently the clue. Narrow
radiator profile? By 1904 'Genevieve' had much more 'modern' radiator.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Renault NC Double Phaeton
Another Photo received from Job van Huizen
(Holland) asking if
the SVVS could help him identify this car. He took the photo at the
Schlumph Collection but forgot to note the details. -- Most
people think of Renault when seeing a bulkhead mounted radiator but
Renault were using side mounted radiators for at least five years before
bulkheads in 1905. This is a cca
1903 Renault type NC Double Phaeton.
Type N Renaults came in NA, NB and NC versions during the 1903-
1904 period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906 Corre Model J Coupe
Very puzzling photo received from Numaweb
site (Switzerland)
taken by a friend in 1960 in Paris. Can we identify the vehicle? --
Exceedingly unusual car and one our experts
could not identify. Radiator at the front and on bulkhead? Back one no
fins but a rad cap? The front rad square framed corners. Guess by Tim
Harding; possibly a Corre. Much searching later defined indeed a cca
1906 Corre J Coupe 10HP. Founded in 1901 by cyclist
Jean Marie Corre in Levallois-Perret making tri/quads.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Opel 6'16 Double Phaeton
Photo received from Gabriel Ahava (Finland)
who would like to know make and year of his father's car pictured
about 1915 in a small township of Kuusamo in the North East of Finland.
Only a narrow 250 km long mud road led to the nearest town called Oulu.
No lights? --
Photo looks like a photocopy with no
gray tones so no details to help, but three of our experts think it is a
cca
1911 Opel 6'16PS Torpedo Double Phaeton.
Lights were removable, to save having to clean them.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Bedelia Cyclecar
Small blurry photo, which we have enhanced,
received from Ashley Rowe (UK)
of his great great aunt, which seems to be taken in the UK 1900-20
period, sitting in the back of a car with a pier in the background. Is
it a steam driven machine? --
No, not steam very much petrol and very French. This is a cca
1913 Bédélia Cyclecar. Probably a
'Photographers Prop' because the steering wheel is in the wrong place at
the front; should be in the
back seat. Paris made 1910 - 1925. Fast !!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Probably 1914 Wolseley 30'40
Tourer
Fascinating story from Joao
Ferreira (Portugal) where
mistress of house had affair with chauffeur in photo resulting in
her being sent by husband with agreement from her parents to a
lunatic asylum for life! Can we advise on make of car. -- Very
sad story which shows how times have changed! Wheelnut has writing
suggesting GLA.... and upside-down ....LEY. Not a positive ident
but one of our experts feels it could be big cca 1914 30'40
Wolseley 6 cylinder. Wheelhubs are good match.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916
Buick D45 Touring
A smashing photo sent in by Lindsay Crawford
(Australia)
which he suspects was taken at a festival in Benalla, Victoria. The
people in the car are relatives of his grandfather. A really,
really tough one but idea on the make, and especially the year, would be
useful? -- Help
from our friends at the AACA suggested that it may be a Buick.
Enlargement of the wheelhub confirmed probability and concealed door
hinges and flat mudguards pinpointed it to a
cca 1916 Buick D45 Touring, - well
hidden!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
FIAT 501 Torpedo
Intriguing photo
Posted on AACA website by Daryl (USA) asking
for identification. It is right
drive car. --
Looks very much like a cca 1921 FIAT
501Torpedo as far as bonnet shape, rad shape, oval badge, mudguards,
twin light sets, place for horn in the wood below windscreen, etc etc
EXCEPT that these had five wheel studs and this one has four. There was
an American FIAT but I think they stopped before this date? Mark Dawber
suggests aftermarket wheels & bumper.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Austro Daimler 617 Tourer
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British film "Isadora" made in 1968, where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. Biographical story of Isadora Duncan the famous American ballet
dancer-turned exotic dancer, played by Vanessa Redgrave, who lived in
Russia and Europe and became equally famous for her death by
strangulation when as passenger in an Amilcar her scarf got trapped in
the rear wheel. --
This is cca
1926 Austro Daimler 617 Double Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
FIAT 507 Torpedo Tourer
Lovely photos received from Mario
Majarich (Australia) who
came with parents from the Dalmatian island of Losinj. His father was
the first with a Taxi and trucks on the island, and Mario wanted to know
details.--Darkish
circular badge with lighter thin writing, headlamp and side-lamp in one
unit, chunky front to mudguards, no hinge or embellishment on the bend
of the bonnet between top and side, and it being a quite large
looking car, indicates this is a cca
1926/7 FIAT 507 Torpedo Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928 Ford
A & 1925 Chrysler B70
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
Same car on left in two photos, being a cca
1928 Ford Model A Phaeton. Reg plate has white background. The car on the right is a cca 1925 Chrysler
B70 Touring, black reg plate, with what seems to be a live cat or squirrel on bonnet.
This photo seems to feature the same people as item below, showing them
here in civvies and off duty.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Ford A & 1928 Chrysler 72
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
Same car on left in two photos, being a cca
1928 Ford Model A Phaeton. The car on the right is a cca 1928 Chrysler
72 Sedan. This photo seems to feature the same
people as item above, which is showing them as chauffeurs or taxi
drivers. Note the Ford change of reg plate colour to black, perhaps
signifying it is now taxi, -or converse!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 28 Austin Burnham/24 Morris Bullnose
Another photo received from Jonathan Day (USA) which
he is trying to identify. He is working his way through 7500 photos left
by his Grandfather and is trying to establish details. --
All UK registered. Camping trailer on right so possibly group assembly
pre holiday. These two cars are a cca 1928 Austin Burnham Saloon ER 9052
registered Cambridge CC, and cca 1924 Morris Cowley Bullnose CF 5413
registered West Suffolk CC.Two of biggest
British mass car makers of the period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929 Ford Model A Station Wagon
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. On the back of
this picture is written "Militia" and year 1929, so this could
be a Police Car. -- Actually
two photos of the same vehicle but nothing to specifically identify it
as a police car. The body style with the stepped bulkhead was
discontinued after 1929, painted rad, so this is a
cca 1929 Ford Model A Station Wagon
with probably non-Ford body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Jowett 7'17 & 1925 Jowett 7
Another photo received from Jonathan Day (USA) which
he is trying to identify. He is working his way through 7500 photos left
by his Grandfather and is trying to establish details. --
All UK registered. Camping trailer on right so possibly group assembly
pre holiday. These two cars are Jowetts, a cca 1929 Jowett 7'17 Saloon
UV 7058 registered London CC, and cca 1925
Jowett 7 Tourer MR 2973 reg Wiltshire CC. Jowetts were made in Bradford,
Yorkshire, and evolution of one model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
DeSoto Series K Phaeton
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
A car which caused a sensation in the USA
when launched by having a record over 81,000 units of various models
sold in 1929, its first year. From the curved bonnet louvre plate this
is a cca 1929 DeSoto Series K Four Door Phaeton. A Chrysler product
named after Spanish explorer who discovered the Mississippi in 1541.
Ended in 1942.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929 Austin Seven Chummy Tourer
Another photo received from Jonathan Day (USA) which
he is trying to identify. He is working his way through 7500 photos left
by his Grandfather and is trying to establish details. --
This one carries a UK registration but letters are obscured, hiding the
place and date of issue. The car is one of the most popular UK cars of
the era, confirmed by our Austin racer John Caddy as having nickel
radiator with a rubber ring and side vent, and lights at the front, so a
cca 1929 Austin Chummy Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1931 Wolseley Hornet
Small blurry photo, which we have enhanced,
received from Martin Dornan from Glasgow (UK)
taken in Scotland of his Grandmother. She
was borne cca 1912/3 and looks about 20 years old, giving a photo date
of about 1933. --
Very rakish lines of the bodywork are indicative of a small by then
Morris subsidiary Wolseley. This is a cca 1931 Wolseley Hornet. These
were initially fitted with Morris Minor type bodies but became very
popular sporting variety of coachwork and special bodies.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
FIAT 508 Balilla Torpedo
Yet another lovely photo received from
Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
A very pretty and interesting car. Looks
American but is generally too small. Badge when enlarged is rectangular
and tall, with flat bottom which seems to suggest a FIAT of the 1932 to
38 period. Badge is high up on an unusual rad which suggests an early cca
1932 FIAT 508 Balilla Torpedo, but
possibly one built by Polski FIAT Warsaw?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably 1932 Rocne Studebaker 65
Intriguing grainy photo received from
Jerome Simon (France)
who purchased it from the USA but the seller has not given him
any information about it. --
Action photo of a car rolling over onto
its roof. Looks much like a UK Ford
model Y but our antipodean correspondent Mark Dawber has come up with
the probable answer: cca 1932 Rocne 65 built by Studebaker to
commemorate the just died US football player. Economy car made only
1932-3 in Detroit, various models, 23,000 sold.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1934
Chevrlot 1.5Ton Bus
Two photos with no text received from Dr.
Alper Ozgonul from Izmir,
(Turkey) showing
busses. We have tried to get further info but no reply so far, so we are
assuming he requires identification. -- The
busses look American so we turned to our colleagues at the AACA for help
and they have confirmed American. Single photo shows a
cca 1934 Chevrolet Bus with four
louvres, same in the multiple photo, horisontal louvres are '35 Chev,
close louvres in background could be Dodge, but photo too small.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1935
Mercedes-Benz Limousine
Yet another lovely photo received from
Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
A very difficult model to identify
precisely as all salient identification details are hidden by the people
standing in front of the car. However from the windscreen, three rows of
side windows and the length of the car it is reasonable to conclude that
this is from the range of cca 1935 Mercedes-Benz 2** Lang Pullman
Limousines, made 34/37.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936 Morris 10'4 MK II Saloon
Photo received from Susan George (Australia)
asking if we can help with identifying the
year of a car that she understand is an "Austin 10"? The photo
is of grandparents and an unknown elderly couple from Kent, with
apparently a Devon number plate issued after 1936. --
Later she corrected to a "Morris Ten" , which indeed is
exactly what it is. Also correct with the registration. The car is a
1936 Morris 10/4 Series II Saloon registered at Devon County
Council in approx. September 1936.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929 Austin Seven Chummy Tourer
Another photo received from Jonathan Day (USA) which
he is trying to identify. He is working his way through 7500 photos left
by his Grandfather and is trying to establish details. --
This one carries a UK registration but letters are obscured, hiding the
place and date of issue. The car is one of the most popular UK cars of
the era, confirmed by our Austin racer John Caddy as having nickel
radiator with a rubber ring and side vent, and lights at the front, so a
cca 1929 Austin Chummy Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
Flying Merkel Motorcycle
Photo received from Kim
Carleton (USA) saying
he inherited postcard from his grandmother. His step-grandfather
used to race motorcycles in the early 1910's and owned a motorcycle shop
in Springfield, MO. Postcard says this
motordrome is not the same as the one in Springfield. Postcard from
friend Charles Biegenwall dated December 12, 1913.--
Our bike expert Robin Vince thinks it might be a Flying
Merkel 980cc, V-twin, by
Miami Cycle & Manuf. Co of Middletown, Ohio.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920s
Edinburgh, George Street
Request received from site Edinphoto
run by Peter Stubbs (UK) where
they have thousands of photos relating to Edinburgh life in all its
aspects, asking if we can identify a number of cars in George Street,
and when. --
Seems to be mainly American cars. Front to back: Cca 1919 Overland Model
90, 1924 Buick Standard Six, cca 1923 Moon 6'58 Sport Phaeton , cca 1922
Rover Eight. Cannot make out enough on the last car, back on. Slightly
hesitant on the Moon, but unlikely to be Rolls.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
 YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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