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and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 
1902 Mors Rear Entrance Tonneau
Interesting lovely period photo found in
my old archives post a previous computer crash so no background to the
photo or where it came from, apart from mention of Monaco.
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first Grand Prix of Monaco was in 1929 so this is decades earlier. Our
Ariejan Bos suggests photo taken during the Semaine de Nice,
March 1902, when a tour to Monte Carlo for the tourists may have been
part of the programme. The first car is a Mors
Tonneau, probably a 10 or 12hp (reg.
461-M is from early 1902).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1902 Daimler Phoenix Racer
Interesting lovely period photo found in
my old archives post a previous computer crash so no background to the
photo or where it came from, apart from mention of Monaco. -- The
first Grand Prix of Monaco was in 1929 so this is decades earlier. Our
Ariejan Bos suggests photo taken during the Semaine de Nice, March
1902, The car in background
with No. 45/29 is an 'old-fashioned' Daimler
Phoenix (with the large square
radiator), in racing substituted by Mercedes, but still made
until 1902.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Darracq RE Tonneau
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo sent to him for identification which is a glass
slide on eBay. A Welch but spokes wrong? -- Not
a Welch but looked like a Continental or more likely Darracq. Ariejan
Bos confirmed Continental has some
vague resemblance, but differs in details. This is a
cca 1903 Darracq 20hp. Sold and was
advertised a lot in American magazines by American Darracq. Note foot
bellows horn, accessory available at $3.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906 Cupelle 10'12 Tourer
Somewhat sad photo, marked on the back as
'Bisley', received from Trevor Howard (UK)
of an accident between a horse and a car. --
Horse came off considerably worse than the
car, which I thought may be Chambers. However was advised with evidence
by Ariejan Bos that this is a
cca 1906 Cupelle 10'12 Tourer, a car
with French origins, Lacoste & Battmann-based, sold by Cupelle UK.
The FIAT Tourer behind it right, reg LD 2117, would be a London County
Council registration late 1909.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Humber Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo posted on the AACA Forum asking for
identification of a vehicle photographed in Australia c 1925.
-- Full
height doors, rounded scuttle, domed wheelhubs, wire wheels, squarish
front mudguards, rounded rear mudguards, - would be a British Coventry
built cca
1911 Humber Tourer. Biggish car so
probably a 12 or 16HP. Detachable and were of Humber’s own design,
introduced 1909.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Maxwell Model EA Touring
Further interesting photo received from Mike Sanders
(USA) of a car they
identified as a 1911 Maxwell Model EA. Taken in Lewistown, Montana. Car
looks new, so maybe in 1911? --
Lovely clear photo showing a lovely car
built by Maxwell-Briscoe Company in Terrytown, New York. We can confirm
that this seems to be a cca
1911 Maxwell Model EA Touring which
had a four cylinder 30 HP engine with the flywheel mounted at front of
the engine, and three speed transmission.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Wolseley 24'30 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo from West Coast of the South Island of the
fleet of Kennedy Brothers who ran service cars, taxis and buses there.
The Wolseley (?) might have been their first car. -- Indeed
a British Wolseley and from scuttle
a cca 1912 Wolseley. From size of chauffeur it seems to be a largish
car, so probably not the 12'16 , possibly the 15'20 and 24'30, and
unlikely the bigger ones. Post Wolseley-Siddeley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916 Ford Model T
Touring
Interesting photo received from Mike Sanders
(USA) which they have identified
as a 1916 Ford Model T - outside of Lewistown, Montana.
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Not a very helpful angle to be trying to identify the year but from the
features such as wheels, mudguards, roof etc we would agree with the
dating. It would have been a clincher if we could have seen the bonnet because
in 1916 Ford Model T changed from having a very angular bonnet to
having a very smooth rounded one to the end of the model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916 Ford Model T
Touring
Subsequently received side-on version of photo from
Mike Sanders
(USA) which they had identified
as a 1916 Ford Model T.
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Again not a very helpfu photo in trying to identify the year
because the bonnet seems to be partially up, obliterating the view of
the hinge and radiator area. In 1916
Ford changed from having a very angular bonnet to
having a very smooth rounded one, neither discernable on photo.
Additionally, bonnet side seems to have no louvres; it should have six?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915
Dodge Brothers Model 30 Touring
Further interesting photo received from Mike Sanders
(USA) of 'another' car but
photographed in Long Beach, California. --
Much more helpful photo as it shows the
radiator and the badge full on. This is a cca
1915 Dodge Brothers Model 30'35 Touring.
Dodge Brothers started in Detroit Michigan in 1900 making engines etc
for Ols and Ford. Started own cars in 1914 and the Model 30 was made
until 1921. Height of the lamps tops above radiator cap suggests one of
the earlier ones.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916
Haynes Model 34 Roadster
Interesting photo received from Mike Sanders
(USA) which they believed was
taken outside of Lewistown, Montana.
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The badge on the radiator looks
familiar of the Haynes type. Rear leaning louvres and a hole in the
skirt by the rear wheel. No back door on driver's side but small
rear seat just visible behind driver's seat. Confirmed by Kaiser on
AACA that this looks like a cca 1916 Haynes Model 34 Roadster, Three
Places. I love the hen and the baby
chicks under the running board !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1921 Daimler 20 Two-Seater
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken cca 1917-20. --
This one was a great puzzle because it
looked Daimlerish but had a sloping radiator and strange front wheel.
Distorted photo? Much correction of perspective sorts the wheel out and
results in flat fronted Daimlerish rad. Tony Oakes and John Warburton
think a
cca 1921 Daimler 20 Two-seater made
1921-24 in various engine sizes, on BSA detachable wire wheels.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1921 Overland Model 4 Touring
Possibly a hand coloured photo
received from Brian Taylor of Hervey Bay Historical Village &
Museum, Scarness (Australia) asking
if we can help to identify the car in the attached photo. It was taken
in Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia. --
Immediate thought cca 1921 Overland Model
4 Touring, but it seems to have few big slanting louvers instead of
lots of fine vertical ones. Our Mark Dawber thinks optical illusion as
undoubtedly Overand 4, who never used slanting louvres on this model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923 Bean 11.9 Four Seater Tourer
Period photo from a family album marked UK
1923/24, received from David Graham (Australia).
Photo is marked "Our Bean" which
David has now realised was actually a make of car!! He could
not find anywhere how to distinguish between the models. --
Another Bean on previous page 137. Bean of
Dudley is a successor to the Perry. Dating from car registration
suggests Middlesex CC so from height of headlamps this is a late cca
1923 Bean 11.9 Four Seater Touring Car, then costing UK£345.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923 Vauxhall 23'60 Tourer
Period photo from a family album marked UK
1923/24, received from David Graham (Australia).
There is no information on this photo. --
British car made in Luton with registration
XO 6894 which was issued by London County Council in mid 1923. Company
was founded in 1897 in London, Vauxhall. First car was made in 1903.
Became General Motors in 1925. This one has big low headlights and
smaller side lamps, so probably cca
1923 Vauxhall 23'60 Tourer. Now
part Peugeot/Citroen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923 Talbot 8'18 Two-Seater
Period photo from a family album marked UK
1923/24, received from David Graham (Australia).
There is no information on this photo but
shows an interesting batch of period cars. -- Car
on the far left is the 1923 Vauxhall 14'40 mentioned below.
To the right of the Vauxhall is a car with
registration XP 592 which was
issued by London C C. This is a
cca 1923 Talbot 8'18 Two-seater, made
in London, North Kensington, by Clement-Talbot who became Darracq 1919,
and then STD Motors 1920.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924 Buick Model 35 Touring
Period photo from a family album marked UK
1923/24, received from David Graham (Australia).
There is no information on this photo but
shows an interesting batch of period cars. -- Centre car has registration XR 5473
which
was issued by London C C in early 1924. The car is not British
but is American made in Detroit and marketed in UK by General Motors
Europe, London. This seems a four seater with British wing mounted sidelights,
so probably a cca
1924 Buick Model 35 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924 Armstrong Siddeley 4'14 Tourer
Period photo from a family album marked UK
1923/24, received from David Graham (Australia).
There is no information on this photo but
shows an interesting batch of period cars. -- The
second car from the right is another British car with an interesting
registration DL 3448 which was
issued by Isle of Wight. The car was made by a company started in 1919
by Armstrong Whitworth purchase of Siddeley-Deasy, This is a smallish
car, cca
1924 Armstrong Siddeley 4'14 Tourer,
1852cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924 Austin 12'4 Tourer
Period photo from a family album marked UK
1923/24, received from David Graham (Australia).
There is no information on this photo but
shows an interesting batch of period cars. -- The
car on the far right is another British car with an interesting
registration DL 1708 which was issued by Isle of Wight. The car was
made by a company started in 1905 by Herbert Austin, lately of Wolseley
he had made then largest UK car maker. This is a cca
1924 Austin 12'4 Tourer, either
two or four seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1936 Austin 10 Lichfield Saloon
Another grainy and puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his family. Photo comes with no information. -- Another grainy photo which we have
tried to enhance. No registration is visible to help with dating but this
is a cca
1936 Austin 10 Lichfield Saloon. The
Austin 10 was made 1932 to 1947 and was a bigger version of the well
known Seven. This one has a boot which would make it post the facelift
in 1935 when also the rad surround got painted and sloped.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937
Standard Flying Nine Saloon
Interesting period photo
sent in to Rootschat by Gingerbit
(UK) asking
for repair and tidy-up of the photo.
-- We
have had had a go at repairing the photo which shows a builders yard in
Glasgow and her Grandfather's probable first car. The car in the photo
is a cca
1937 Standard Flying Nine Saloon
registered with the Burgh Council of Glasgow March 1937. The wheel
cover on the boot over the spare tyre is missing. The Flying Nine,
1131cc 9HP four, was produced 1937 to 1940.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1937 Austin Seven Ruby Saloon
Another photo received from James Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken cca 1945. Could this be
the back of a Vauxhall? --
Regretfully no. Always a bit difficult to
identify car from the back. However, Our Tony Oakes and John Warburton
agree "Surely an Austin
7 'Ruby', a common sight in my
now-distant youth! Current 1934-38." Austin Seven was made in
various forms 1922-39 and basis for American Austin, BMW Dixi,
Rosengart in France and Nissan Japan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1938 Ford Prefect E93A Saloon
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken in Spain in 1951. --
Another grainy photo which we have
tried to enhance. No registration is visible to help with dating but we
feel this is the same car as shown on the previous page 137. This was a
Ford Prefect and so is this one, a cca 1938/9 Ford Prefect E93A
Saloon. This triple type of louvre was on cars made between 1938 to 1948, and
subsequent Prefect models had no louvres.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1962
Moskvich 407 Saloon
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo from Transpress NZ asking for identification
of a vehicle photographed in Kaunisppaa, Finland in 1963.
-- This
is a Russian car made by AZLK in Moscow who had been making the Russian
version of the Ford A/AA. Became part of GAZ (known for the Volga)
making the GAZ AA. From grille this is a cca
1962 Moskvich 407 Saloon, introduced
as 402 in 1956, improved to 407 in 1958, and ended in 2001.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNKNOWN
cca WW1 Open Tourer
Lovely period photo received from Jørgen
Rønning (Norway) of
a vehicle taken in Norway, Oslo in the late ten`s, could we please help
him to identificate the car? -- Regretfully
not. This photo has done the rounds of all our experts but none have
been able to provide specific answer. Suggestions of American features
but rad hood being Teutonic. Makes such as early Benz, Mercedes, FAB,
Martini. Alternatively that is probably European and poss like NAG or
Austro Daimler. HELP
PLEASE?
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