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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
Page 71 below relates to enquiries received
during
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1903 Peugeot Type 54 Voiturette
Brief email and photograph received from Simon Prentis (UK)
saying " I have recently discovered
this photo of my great-grandfather, Thomas Steadman, proudly sitting in
his car -- clearly a working vehicle -- on his farm in Wales in (I
think) 1907. If able to identify it, any idea what it might have been
worth at the time? --
Our VCC veteran expert advises: sloping
side bonnet louvres, 8-spoke front 10 spoke rears, shaft drive, French
cca 1903 Peugeot 5hp type 54 voiturette.
Friswell London: £195.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1904 Little Star 7HP Two-Seater
Interesting photos received from Patrick Laycock
(UK) who has been going through his Grandfather's photos of cars
which the Montagu museum have had trouble identifying. Taken in 1909/10. --
Reg
number is Wolverhampton CBC. Our 'Star' expert immediately
recognised it as a cca
1904 Little Star 7 HP Two-Seater as
manufactured by the Star Motor Company of Wolverhampton. Star made some
lovely cars, became Guy Motors in 1928 but closed 1932. The front round
gizmo is the mag timer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1904 Napier 12HP SE Tonneau
Interesting photo received from our
Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK),
who found this piccy in one of his old
albums, taken at least 30 years ago at a rally somewhere. Can I identify
it? -- Not
immediately obvious from the radiator but had a good starting point of
having a Napier-like rad filler. Further investigation advises it was an
early cca
1904 Napier of America 12HP Side Entrance Tonneau.
Car was assembled in Boston USA. Registration is 'age related' Orkney Islands,
and is still in use.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Pope Toledo RE Tonneau
Photo from Eric Clarkson, Bantry, (Ireland)
which was taken by his uncle in Cape Town, South Africa in 1905, who was
a Benz dealer in London. It may have been first car to overland from
Johannesberg to Cape Town. His companion on the journey was a Mr.
Patterson, perhaps owner of the car. Registration seems ..8412
possibly London? -- Regret
not a Benz and doubt London reg. Hence unlikely to be able trace name of
original owner. Car is an American
cca 1905 Pope Toledo RE Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
CGV 15HP Roadster
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- Louvre
pattern with differing angles for each louvre, the rectangular
rounded rad with a bar in front, with staring handle below the
bar, and the handle going through the core, all suggest a French
cca 1905 Charron, Girardot & Voigt
(CGV) 15 HP Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Gregoire 12'14 Runabout
Another puzzling photo received from
Numaweb site (Switzerland)
with a request for the identification of the car. No further background
on the picture was provided. --
Photo was a little damaged so we have
repaired it. After detailed study and from the radiator we are
relatively certain this is a French car made in Poissy near Paris by
Automobiles Gregoire. Largish bonnet so is a cca
1906 Gregoire 12'14 Runabout. AG
started making cars in 1904, made about 500, and closed down in 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
PAT Charron Phaeton
Cinema screen grab from a Yugoslav
co-production film "Assassination in Sarajevo " made in 1975 where the
cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about the
assassination of Franz Ferdinand and start of WW1. --
Not a country noted for interest in old cars so all are wrong. This one
was a puzzle as had curved profile radiator like a Charron but much
wider bonnet, until Ariejan Boss pointed out that Praga made Charron
under licence; so this is cca
1907 PAT (Praga) Charron Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Wolseley 12'16 Two-Seater
Interesting photos received from Patrick Laycock
(UK) who has been going through his Grandfather's photos of cars
which the Montagu museum have had trouble identifying. Taken in 1909/10. -- Registration
number U 1443 is Leeds County Council. From the short bonnet and the
very large wheel hubs this seems to be a Wolseley from the' Wolseley
Siddeley' period, being a cca
1910 Wolseley 12'16. Latest scuttle
shape, the body would seem to be a two seater, possibly the 'Light Two
Seater'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Fafnir Open Drive Landaulette
Interesting photos received from Patrick Laycock (UK)
who has been going through his Grandfather's photos of cars which the
Montagu museum have had trouble identifying. Taken in 1909/10. --
This was manufactured in Aachen in Germany. The
registration C 5062 is West Riding of Yorkshire, whose dating data is
lost, but 1910 is about right. This is a cca
1910 Fafnir Open Drive Landaulette. Big
car so probably the 16HP model available 1910 from northern agents,
basic form, for £275.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 AEC B Type Charabanc
Photo received from Roger Butlin, Pinner (UK),
who heard of us through Family Tree
Magazine, of a "works" outing just prior to departure in front
of Todman's shop at 57a High Street Wealdstone with staff and family
members including his mother. About 1926 and has 'National' on side. --
Latest: Mike
Sutcliffe advises it is a heavily rebuilt AEC
B Type, new originally in 1912 as LGOC
B1801, a double decker. Here as National Omnibus & Road Trans Co
(no.2139), rebodied cca 1921 as a charabanc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916
Overland Model 75 Touring
Interesting photo received from Mark &
Jenifer Brigham (USA) showing
his Great Grandfather with his car, most likely taken in mid west,
Oklahoma. They would love to know what car he drove back in the day.
-- A
couple of our experts agree that this is a cca
1916 Overland Model 75 Touring.
Overland started cars 1903 in Indiana. Purchased by auto dealer John
Willys in 1912 became Willys-Overland and was the second largest
producer of cars in USA after Ford. Last Overland made in 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1916 Maxwell Model 25 Touring
While looking through the internet in process of
identification of cars, we noticed this car on a website dealing with
the genealogy of a David Trompson in USA.
One of the photos on this site is marked 'Leonard's 1916 Buick'. --
The site seems an archive so we cannot advise the error. Unfortunately
the car shown on the photo is not a Buick but a hooded peaked rad cca
1916 Maxwell Model 25 Touring. Maxwell
started 1904 and became Chrysler. Buick started 1903 and
became General Motors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1920 Sheffield Simplex SSK 50HP
Interesting photo received from Tom Robinson (Editor Sheffield Transport
Study Group)
(UK) who advises that a member submitted
the photograph for inclusion in their magazine The Journal. Could we
please identify the make of car leading this procession? --
Unique car housed in the Kelham
Island Museum in Sheffield being a prototype
1920 Sheffield Simplex SSK
50hpTwo-Seater, possibly the last car made, and acquired by
founder Earl Fitzwilliam in 1925 on liquidation of
company.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922 Crossley 25'30 Manchester Tourer
Brief email and photos received from Andrew
Miller (UK)
saying " I have attached a wonderful picture of my grand-father and
mother with their family, c 1930, off on a special occasion. Rural
Somerset, so I doubt the car is a Rolls Royce. But what is it? I've
trawled through most of your help pages to no avail. Can you help
please." --
Simple
when one of our experts told me ! Couple of feet more of the bonnet
would have shown clearly this is a cca
1922 Crossley, probably 25'30 Manchester Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Citroen B2 Torpedo
Cinema screen grab from a Yugoslav
co-production film "Assassination in Sarajevo " made in 1975 where the
cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about the
assassination of Franz Ferdinand and start of WW1. --
Not a country noted for interest in old cars so all are wrong. The first
car in procession was a 1925 Laurin & Klement (Skoda), the Graf
& Stift is also Laurin & Clement and one of the follower cars is
this cca
1924 Citroen B2 Torpedo. Assassination
was 10 years earlier, 1914.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Austro Daimler ADV Limousine
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- Almost
every possible identification feature is hidden by people but
despite this I spied a couple of pointers: pointed front
mudguards, Teutonic smaller lights below the headlamps, and a
spitzhuhler radiator just visible with a D badge, advising cca
1926 Austro Daimler ADV Open Drive Limousine. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Opel 4'16 Limousine
Another lovely photo received from Paul
Benjamin (UK) showing
his Great Grandfather with his car, most likely taken in Germany. Can we
tell him the make of the vehicle.-- Made
by a German company formed in 1862 to make sewing machines, then mage
penny-farthing bicycles, and cars in 1899, and which in view of its
success, in 1929 became a subsidiary of American General Motors. Painted
rad, drum lights, no tie bar, external battery, big visor; this is
a cca
1928 Opel 4'20 Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1930 Morris Oxford Six Saloon
Brief email and photograph received from Iain A MacRae (UK)
saying "My father, Driving, did have a
Morris in the Mid 30ties which was replaced by an Alvis Firefly. This is
certainly not a Firefly! --
Top marks for observation. On the
assumption that he had two cars, Morris and Alvis, and we agree this is
not the Alvis, - gotta be the Morris! Indeed a Durham registration
of mid 1930, so it is a
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1930 Morris Oxford Six Saloon. Scroll
badge indicates model range made between 1929 and '33.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1930 Austin 20 Limousine
A couple of photos received from
Andrew Stevens (UK)
from a box inherited from his
grandparents. This one was headed "Out for a picnic Nov 1935",
which sounds rather optimistic. The woman could be his grandmother and
the driver his grandfather, a driver for the Oxford Bus Co. --
Seems same dog in both, but it looks a bit younger here. The car
is much earlier too. No registration is visible to help in dating the
car but it is a big formal vehicle, being a cca
1930/31 Austin 20 HP Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1934 Hillman Aero Minx
Interesting photo received from Mel Bray (UK)
showing his father Jack Bray
standing beside "The Bug", perhaps a Swallow SS, taken in 1939
shortly after he joined the RAF. Carried photo throughout his life.
Grandfather was a village policeman. --
Registration FS 5877 was issued by Edinburgh Borough Council, 1934. The
car carries a a war-time black-out mask on the offside headlamp. The car
is often referred to as 'Forgotten British Sportscar'; a cca
1934 Hilman Aero Minx, £246 new.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1935 Morris 10'6 Sports Tourer
Brief email and photograph received from Iain A MacRae (UK)
saying "The only other car of my
fathers that I have not fully identified is again mid 30s, probably
1936. He had an MG tourer at this time, 6 cylinders were his preference.
May be a Magnette or SA. --
The right number of cylinders but the wrong make. Our MG experts
confirmed not an MG: bonnet has external latches, wheels have enlarged
hubs and wings have a crease. However a cca
1935 Morris 10'6 Sports Tourer seem to
fit bill !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1939 Vauxhall 14'6 DX Saloon
A couple of photos received from
Andrew Stevens (UK)
from a box inherited from his
grandparents. This one was unmarked so he knows nothing about it nor
does he recognise the woman.--
Seems to be the same dog! No
registration visible so not possible to accurately date car but as it is
a Vauxhall
14'6 DX Saloon only made 1939 and 40,
we can be relatively close. This model is recognisable by the
rounded-off top opening extended boot, with top mounted chrome
straps and catches.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1967 Plymouth Satelite GTX
A cople of lovely photos received from José
Ignacio Vielma Cabruja of the Architecture Department of Chile
University (Chile) who
is trying to identify the car to date correctly the photo taken on
Caracas Expressway after 1965, probably early 70s. -- Slightly
difficult for us as recent US car,
especially rear view. We contacted our friends at AACA who advised that
the car in front is a cca
1967 Plymouth Satelite GTX but more
importantly, car coming the other way is a 1971 Dodge Dart.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unidentified
1920s Sports Tourer
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- No,
and neithe it seems does anybody else!! It was suggested that it
may be a 'Special' based on a Blitzen Benz but nobody was able to
confirm this. Even Nick Georgano drew a blank suggesting this is a
'bitza'
with no connection between rad and chasis in the tradition of the
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unidentified
Car Chassis
Photos received from Milan
Vocílka, Museum
of Motorbikes, in Horní Radoun, (Czech
Republic) who would appreciate help
with identification
of a car chassis. They have not
been able to identify it but think that it might have came from an
American car.
-- We
regret this enquiry is a little bit too specialised for us. Our
knowledge base relates mainly to the general overall veteran and
vintage vehicle scene, but regretfully not always in detail.
If anybody has any ideas, please email back to us. |
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UNIDENTIFIED
CARS ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. ANY ASSISTANCE MUCH
APPRECIATED
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