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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:
SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Peugeot Type 42 Tonneau
Rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle from a
series of pictures of many unidentified forms of transport. Can we help
with advising name of manufacturer.
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Background of the photo is French as indeed is the car. The
registration suggests the car came from St Etienne which is the capital
of the Loire. The car resembles the contemporary Mercedes model but is
a cca
1903 Peugeot Type 42 Rear-Entrance Tonneau,
with 4 cylinder 12HP engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Humberette 5HP Two-Seater
Another rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle which
seems to be notated as a Ford N. He thinks it is a Humberette?
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We agree, not an American Ford but a British Humberette. From the
radiator and the side panels, and having wire wheels, it seems to be a
well used cca
1903 Humberette 5HP with a De Dion
Bouton engine, made in both Coventry and Beeston. It cost 125 Guineas;
6.5HP Humberette had artillery wheels, at 150 Guineas.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904
Mercedes Phaeton
Rather blurry photo received from Jan
Hauptmann (Germany)
saying "Can you tell me what kind of vehicle this is? Thank you. --
We have tried to improve on the photo but it seems to have been shaken
on taking, so would not really sharpen. Couple of our experts agree
this is a cca
1904 Mercedes Phaeton, probably the
40HP. Mercedes cars were built by Daimler Motors in Germany from 1901
for Emil Jellinek, agent in Nice, named after his daugter. Daimler and
Benz amalgamated 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1907
Straker Squire Charabanc
Another rather splendid photo found while
surfing the internet in the process of identifying ancient automobiles.
We think this one came from Australia. Can we
help with advising name of manufacturer.
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Rather oversize radiator suggests a British manufacturer, originally of
steam cars in 1899. In 1907 they commenced commercial vehicles
including supplying over 70% of London's busses, including
petrol-electric double decker busses. This is a c1907
Straker Squire Charabanc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1907
Brown Brothers Motorcycle
Puzzling photo received from Caryl Bowles (Mrs) (UK)
saying "I am a member of Gargrave Heritage Group and wonder if you
could identify first motor bike in the village? --
Not a positive ID but likely
a cca 1907 Brown Brothers Motorcycle;
three sizes. Registration is Yorkshire
West Riding CC cca 07ish. Very unusual springing to the
front wheel, OHV engine, no gearbox, exhaust offside; largely match.
Springing patented but not sure if 'bought-in', but could not find
similar used elsewhere.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909
Walker Electric Truck
Another interesting photograph worth
showing on our Help Pages, and one found while surfing the internet in the process of identifying ancient automobiles. Can we
help with advising name of manufacturer?
-- Does rather help to have the manufacturer's name faintly on the bumper.
This is a cca
1909 Walker Electric Truck from
Chicago, but also available in Britain and New Zealand. Became Commonwealth
Edison 1920 and used their batteries as prominently displayed on
battery case.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Ford Model T Touring
Another rather splendid photo found while
surfing the internet in the process of identifying ancient automobiles.
We think this one came from Korea. Can we
help with advising name of manufacturer.
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Proving just how popular was the world-wide use of Ford Model Ts. The
car looks relatively new and is an early square edged bonnet cca
1911 Ford Model T used as an autobus,
probably more as a Taxi, in Konju. Konju seems to be in what is now
North Korea. Rounded bonnets 1916.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Delaunay Belleville
Another request for identification of a vehicles received
from our regular contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal)
who asked if we could help him identify this car photographed in North
Portugal. --
The car in the background with round bonnet is a French Car built in St
Denis, north of Paris by boilermakers started in 1850. First car in
1904 and first in France to offer a 6 cylinder car in 1909. Tsar
Nicholas of Russia had a few. This is
c1912 Delaunay Belleville Coupe Chauffeur.
Co ended 1950.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Delage Two-Seater & Dickey
Surfing through the internet in attempting to
identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards
of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been
identified, so we have a go ! As the photoare on more than one website,
difficult to attribute the origin. --
Photo possibly by Adam MacLay showing a lovely French cca
1913 Delage Two-Seater & Dickey,
probably the Model TR of 12HP. Bankrupted 1935, became part of
Delahaye, making Delages to 1953.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Darracq 12hp Two-Seater
Unusual photo which was interesting to
solve was sent to us by Phil Kramer (UK) of
his great grandfather's car found while researching
family tree. John Jameson fairly important in the area, lived in South
Hylton, near Sunderland, born 1853, died1920, -- No
rad or bonnet so thanks to David Hales for identifying this as a cca
1914 Darracq 12hp Two-Seater. Points
of note are; cranked windscreen support, scuttle filler cap, 6 wheel
studs, side air vent, widescreen mounted side lights.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916
Briscoe Model 38 V8 Touring
Another rather splendid photo received via Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle which is
unidentified on more than one website, so problematic attribution. Can we
help with advising name of manufacturer.
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American car, manufactured in Jackson, Michigan. Perhaps more famous
for its cyclops headlamp model, this is a cca
1916 Briscoe Model 38 V8 Touring with
short lived widows peak radiator top. Option with the 4 cylinder model
was to use 4 , and later retrofit the V8.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Secqueville-Hoyau Coupe de Ville
Another request for identification of a vehicles received
from our regular contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal)
who asked if we could help him identify this car. --
The vehicle in the foreground is an extremely rare car from France made
by an aircraft engine manufacturer started in 1911, and cars 1919-'24
in Greneviilliers, Paris. Single model policy with a 1,243cc four
cylinder sidevalve made in three wheelbases and four bodystyles. This
is a cca
1919 Secqueville-Hoyau Coupe de Ville.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Briton 9.5hp Tourer
Another fuzzy puzzling photo sent to us by Jason
Palmer, Melbourne, (Australia) saying
he recently purchased this
photograph and has not been able to identify the light car with
interesting pedestal mounted side lights. Sun is reflecting right in
the wrong spot; glare or badge?" --
Thanks to David Hales and Tim Harding for info that this is cca 1921
Briton 9.5hp Tourer, engine no 6019 , chassis
6121/2, first
registered on 9/4/21, last known owner 30/6/24. Post-war Britons are very rare.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Crouch
Tourer
Very puzzling photo sent to us by Jason
Palmer, Melbourne, (Australia) saying
he
recently purchased this
photograph and has not been able to identify the vehicle. Magnifying
the radiator badge shows script name (not clearly) - like a
Coy...?? --
We had this photo on HP 115 as UNIDENTIFIED, possibly a Wolseley
or a Crouch. Registration is 1921 Salop (Shropshire
CC). We have now had a definite view from our Tim Harding that
this is indeed cca 1921 Crouch
Tourer, Coventry 1912-25.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1922
Lincoln Model L Touring
Another rather splendid photo received via Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle which is
unidentified on more than one website, so problematic attribution. Can we
help with advising name of manufacturer.
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American car, manufactured in Dearborne, Michigan, by a company founded
1917 by Henry Leland who named the company after the first President he
voted for in 1864. Bankrupted 1922, and purchased by Henry Ford. This
is a cca
1922 Lincoln Model L Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Vauxhall 14'40 M Type Tourer
Rather lovely photo received from Caryl Bowles (Mrs) (UK)
saying "I am a member of Gargrave Heritage Group and wonder if you
could identify the car in the photo, possibly owned by Sir Matthew
Wilson of Eshton Hall. --
Identification feature of upturned exposed cantilever external
rear spring led us to think it was an Angus Sanderson. However our Tim
Harding advised that this is an early cca 1922 Vauxhall 14'40 M
Type.
Car should have flutes on the rad but these not visible on unclear
photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Steyr Type VII Tourenwagen
Another rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle which is
unidentified on more than one website, so problematic attribution. Can we
help with advising name of manufacturer.
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Spitzkuhler radiator much favoured in areas with Tutonic influence, but
not Germany, instead Austria. This is a car made by Österreichische
Waffenfabriks-Gesellschaft (ÖWG) cca
1923 Steyr Type VII 12'50 Tourenwagen.
Steyr-Daimler-Puch made cars to 1959.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Lagonda 12'24 Two-Seater
Another photo which gave us trouble was sent to us by Roger
Lovell (UK) saying
that whilst undertaking some local research he came across
this image and hopes we can help him with identifying the make of car.
The location is Swithland Reservoir in Leicestershire. --
Thanks to Tim Harding for confirming this is a Lagonda but as 11.9
models had no louvres we had problems in being positive. We have
finally located photo of a cca
1924 Lagonda 12'24 Two-Seater with two
sets of louvres.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931
Albion Viking PM 28 Bus
Interesting
period photo received from regular contributor Bill Stothard of
the Cudworth Local History Group
(UK) saying he knows that
commercial vehicles are not our specialty, but can we help with the
identification of this 'Overtype/Forward Control' bus.-- Relatively
sure this is a cca
1931 Albion Viking PM 28 Bus. These
were made 1927 to 1932 and were a follow on to the Viking 26. Many were
later rebodied. PM/PMA had the four cylinder and PMB/PR a six
cylinder petrol engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:PROBABLY
c1932 Delage D8 Berline
Rather blurry scren-grab received from Henry
Hammar, Oxelosund (Sweden) taken
from a old Finnish movie, so quality is not so good. Rumours that the
car was a Hispano Suiza, body possibly Felber & Fils in France.
Delage is a possibility.--
We have some doubts about HS. Tie
badge bar is curved and HS ones are generally straight. HS also
generally go for single wider bumpers. A cca
1932 Delage D8 Berline has much more
going for it, especially with the Felber & Fils coachwork.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933
Vauxhall Light Six Saloon
Rather poor photo received from Noel Beauchamp of the
Swindon Heritage Website (UK)
asking "Is it possible to identify the car and date of
registration from the attached photo please?" --
Registration NJ 2080 was issued by Sussex County Council late 1933.
Left petrol filler, split rear bumper, no spare tyre, rear light
central over plate with two lenses, indicated to our Tony Oakes
this was a cca
1933 Vauxhall Light Six Saloon,
introduced 1933. Similar rear view of one on : Help
Page 09.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934
Standard Swallow S.S. 2
Surfing through the internet in attempting to
identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards
of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been
identified, so we have a go ! As the photo is on more than one website,
difficult to attribute the origin. --
Mentioned on one site as a Singer, NO this is a forerunner to the
Jaguar, being a cca 1934 Standard Swallow SS 2 Light Four
Saloon.
Company name was changed to Jaguar in 1945 due Nazi connotations.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936
Hillman Minx Magnificent
This is a photo-of-a-photo, received
from Noel Beauchamp of the Swindon Heritage Website (UK) asking
"Sorry to ask again but could you please help us with this on
also? Is it possible to identify the car ?" --
Unfortunately no registration visible for precise dating. Many cars of
the period had sloping rear bodystyle but this car has down curving
body line and no louvres on the bonnet. Once again our Tony Oakes
advised it is a
cca 1936 Hillman Minx Magnificent Saloon,
1936 to 1938.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938
DKW F7 Cabriolet
One of a number of interesting photos sent
to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is a collector of old photos. Can we
identify the car once owned by the former German Red Cross member. This
snapshot was taken somewhere in 1960s. -- German
car made by the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer in 1920s who
were Dampf-Kraft-Wagen company, who started in 1919 with stream
vehicles. This is a cca
1938 DKW F7 Cabriolet,
front-wheel drive, two-stroke engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN
Engine and Car
Puzzling set of photos received from
Manreet Sarkaria (India?)
saying he cannot identify car. -- Enclosed
engine bay with side louvres suitable for lid type bonnet.
Alternator? Manreet mentions 19"
wheels, with Rudge Whitworth spinners, Hartford shock absorbers, MOWOG
engine block, both manifolds on right side, track 44" and wheel
base 89", 2M3&W2 on left upper of block, another marking 4JAN,
another number on exhaust manifold 16217, cross brace on chassis. Our
experts have so far not come back with anything positive.
Need Help Please!
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