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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,325 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1912 Riley 10'12 Two-seater
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a local forum of what is apparently a 1920s Fafnir car owned by grandfather - her mother is the baby in the pic. He sold it about 1926. - - I had some doubts that this is a Fafnir so contacted Ariejan Bos who advised not Fanir but something British, probably c1913 round bonnet Riley. Our Riley expert Chris Cuss confirmed probability of cca1912 Riley Two seater, likely the 10'12. Drop arm outside bonnet and Riley wheels.

c1912 Riley 10'12 Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Berlina Drascke Taxi
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorliden (Sweden) of for him unknown car. No info when or where the photos are taken. Any ideas what they could be? -- No, so asked our expert Ariejan Bos who came back with the very interesting information that this is a cca 1905 taxi (Droschke) with the name Berolina, fabricated by the Berliner Motorwagen-Fabrik in Templehof.Transmission partly by friction gear. This factory would produce the Oryx from 1907. Became Duerkopp.

1905 Berlina Drascke Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably 1938 De Soto S5 Sedan
Very difficult photo received from Jim Smith (USA) asking for year and model of the vehicle beside his grandfather, probably an American car from the 1930s. -- He looks a bit like Sean Connery 007. Car looks late 30s American four door saloon with running board. Centre opening doors. Plain chunky bumper. Three narrow line louvres all the way back, and external two hinges. Our Mark Dawber pinpointed it to a cca 1938 DeSoto, the American S5 model and not export Plymouth-based model.

Probably 1938 De Soto S5 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937 Tatra 70A Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from Czech film "Vyderac" (Blackmailer) made in 1937, where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a Director syphening export funds to a foreign bank and is blackmailed -- This is background vehicle of which there is not much to see, and we have enlarged. Relatively sure this is a cca 1937 Tatra 70A Saloon made by the world's third oldest car company in Koprivnice in Czech Republic. Founded 1850, now making military and civilian trucks.

1937 Tatra 70A Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Citroen B2 10HP Taxi
Cinema screen grab taken from a Russian film "Byl mesyats may" (It Was in May) made in 1970, where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film depicts first weeks after the war had ended. -- This seems to be a scene in Paris showing the back of a typical Parisian rear-entry bus, probably a cca 1937 Renault TN which came in 4 or 6 cylinder versions, made 1931 to 1971 in various forms. Beside it is an early  cca 1923 Citroen B2 10HP Taxi often confused with the 5CV C3 two-seater.

1923 Citroen B2 Taxi and 1937 Reanult TN Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Maybach SW38 Cabriolet
Cinema screen grab taken from a. Russian film ""Byl mesyats may" (It Was in May) made in 1970, cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film depicts first weeks after the war had ended. -- Unclear photo but Maybach Radcap emblem and radiator logo. Likely a cca 1938 Maybach SW38 Cabriolet, no body molding on windscreen, has windscreen wipers on the scuttle, and no headlamp tie bar. Maybach was technical director of Daimler to 1907. Own Company 1909/1960, purchased by Mercedes.

1938 Maybach SW38 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 Morris Oxford  Four-Seater
Tragic background enquiry from Neil Jones (UK) investigating an accident in 1932 at Luzborough crossroads (nr Romsey) where the driver died after hitting another car coming across. Can we confirm statement in report that car was 1923 Morris Oxford? -- Two of our experts agree Morris Oxford Four Seater. Registration YO 5955 is later, London CC of May 1926 confirmed by wellbase balloon tyres, four wheel brakes, the front dumb irons tie bar,  and the Barker headlamp dippers.

1926 Morris Bullnose Oxford Four-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1967 Sovam 1100VS Coupe
Another puzzling photo received from Giorgio Tardisu (Italy) from a classic car run report; had we had heard of a Sovan? -- No, so did some research. Car is actually a cca 1967 SOVAM 1100VS Sports Coupe made by Société des Véhicules André Morin (1030 to 1968) in Parthenay, western France. Based on Renault parts, made three ranges 850VS (62off), 1100VS (77 off) and 1300GS 6 off with square headlamps; relatively successful in rallying. Changed to airport handling equipment

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Singer 10 Two-Seater
Surrey Vintage Vehicle Society and our experts continue to assist the specialist veteran/vintage car magazine The Automobile (UK) in their quest of identifying and featuring old cars -- This photo-of-a-Photo was sent to them by Nigel Atherstone saying car was owned by his friend's grandfather. Picture is not of printable quality so we have attempted to try and improve it. The distinctive feature is the upward protruding radiator which suggests this is British cca 1914 Singer 10 Two-Seater. 

1914 Singer 10 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1947 Ford Super Deluxe Coupe
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual vehicles, and wondered if we knew what this one, was which is a screengrab? -- American cars have definite periods of great styling similarity, much as most cars have today. Therefore defining the differences in the similarity can be quite complex, especially is quality of photo is fuzzy. However can advise from bonnet lights that this seems to be an American cca 1947 Ford Super Deluxe Two-door Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably 1914 Ford Model T
Another interesting photo rom David Pentecost (UK) trying to date an old postcard. It has a postage stamp which was first issued in 1911. Wandering if anyone can throw light on when the car might have been made. Pre or post WW1? -- Small size makes it difficult to be absolutely sure of identification but relatively certain it is an American car, a  Ford Model T with the radiator of the ptre-1916 shape when instead of angular, it became rounded. The scuttle is vertical which is pre 1915. 

Probably 1914 Ford Model T

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1899 Peugeot 15 Double Phaeton
Interesting photo received from Peter Semple (UK) of a car which was in his grandfather’s photo album labeled “first car in Aberdeen”;  not sure if the name given below is really the owner. -- Looked to me like a 1897 Daimler but checked with Ariejan Bos who advised it was a French Peugeot 15 made between 1897 and 1901. Interesting to note Peugeot had ended agreement with Daimler and made their own  8HP transverse flat twin engine.  Charles Rolls fist car was 15, and was Peugeot dealer.

c1899 Peugeot 15 Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1949 Morris Commercial Parcel Van
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual vehicles, and wondered if we knew what this one was? -- Number of vehicles looked similar; Chevrolet Dubl-Duty Delivery Van and Morris Commercial PV Van. Photo seems UK, and registration NPL 89 is Surrey County Council late 1949, so favour the British make as does the very thin ornamental mudguards back & front, the canvas four hoop roof, so is cca 1949 Morris Commercial forward control Parcel Van.

1949 Morris Commercial Parcel Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934 Ford Model 40 Roadster
Another interesting photo received from Adrian Pollitt (UK) of a car in Khuzestan, Iran, mid/late 1930s. Father worked for Anglo Iranian c 1945. -- Khuzestan was province of Iran on the Persian Gulf bordering Iraq. In 1935 Iran was called Persia, ruled from 1953 to 1979 by Shah Reza Pahlavi following Anglo-American coup. Replaced by Ayatollah Khomeini, becoming Islamic Republic. The car is a cca 1934 Ford Model 40, possibly Roadster, no horns and no badge so poss a four cylinder St.

1934 Ford Model 40 Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1935 Chevrolet Master Sedan
Another interesting photo received from Adrian Pollitt (UK) of a car in  Khuzestan, Iran, early/mid 1940s.-- Khuzestan was province of Iran on the Persian Gulf bordering Iraq. One year earlier, Iran was called Persia  ruled from 1953 to 1979 by Shah Reza Pahlavi following Anglo-American coup. Replaced by Ayatollah Khomeini, becoming Islamic Republic. The car's front bumper suggests it was likely a Canadian Built, for British/Empire market, cca 1935 Chevrolet Master Series EC Sedan.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Framo Stormer 200 
Photo from Simon (Croatia) of car being investigated on the internet. -- Three-wheeler from Framo Werke, parts supplier, stared 1923 by Dane Jorge Rasmussen who in 1907 started DKW making motorcycles, later cars. Merged with Auto Union. In 1933 Framo Stormer was first attempt at a people's car, with 192cc DKW single cylinder, air-cooled engine, chain drive to front wheels. Body was leatherette covered plywood with false rad. Four-wheeler Piccolo was rejected by Hitler for Volkswagen.

1933 Framo Stormer 200  Three-wheeler

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unidentified c1903 Tonneau
 
Another puzzling photo received from regular contributor Par Sorliden from (Sweden) - Nothing like it in my system. Louvres seem holes with mesh behind. Help again was needed from our veterans expert Ariejan Bos in Holland, - who also found it a mystery. Looks quite well made, the large outside lever seems to be rather primitively cut out from a plate of sheet metal. Beneath the frame, there are several chains visible, pointing to rather primitive drive train.  - Possibly locally made.

Unidentified c1903 Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Riley 9HP Two-Seater
Lovely photos of dog driving car received from Matthew Sweet (USA) from Cecil Hepworth 1908 Film
“The Dog Outwits the Kidnapper”. Can we advise car maker? -- We have the same dog/child photo on our Help Page 33 dated 2010 so we know that the car is a cca 1905 Riley 9HP Two-Seater and that the dog is Rover, played by Hepwoert.s dog ' Blair'. One of two films starring 'Rover' which made name nation's favourite for dogs. Film was 8 minutes long. Click to See full story of registration!

1905 Riley 9HP Two-Seater in Dog Outwits the Kindnapper

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904 Dixie 12HP SE Tonneau
Puzzling photos received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) resulting from our ID of 1904 Leon Bolleee and asks if this photo with Algernon Barkworth is a similar car. -- Help again needed from Ariejan Bos who also found it a toughie. Not Leon Bollee. British coachwork with rounded dash but chassis is a German cca 1904 Dixie 12HP SE Tonneau. Made by Automobilwerk Eisenach who in 1927 licensed Austin 7. Bought 1928 by BMW, start of BMW cars. Registration BT 48 is 1904 Yorkshire (ER) CC.

1904 Dixie 12HP SE Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer
Connected with above, another photo of Algernon Barkworth driving a un-named car. -- c1915 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer. Many made during WW1 mainly for Military use. Algernon Barkworth was a Yorkshire 'gentleman of leisure' bachelor whose main claim to fame was to be a survivor of the Titanic tragedy. Jumped from the First Class deck by orchestra into freezing sea and managed to find floating debris to cling to. Picked up by Carpathia to New York. Later voted onto East Riding County Council.

1915 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Packard Six 3 38 Kegresse
In the process of researching my article on  Lenin's Rolls Royce I came across this photo of a car labeled Tsar Nicholas II's Benz -- It is
amazing the mount of rubbish and totally wrong mis-information that is continuing to be disseminated by 'first ranking' internet organizations without anybody fully bothering to check if the facts are actually valid, true or accurate. This is actually Tsar Nicholas 1914 Packard Six Kegresse Tourer.  He did have a Benz  Kegresse.  but this is not a Benz.

1914 Packard Six 3 38 Kegresse

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown c1905 Taxi
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorliden (Sweden) of for him unknown car. No info when or where the photos are taken. Any ideas what they could be? -- No, so asked our experts including  Ariejan Bos who all came back with no specific answer. Agreement that was made as a Taxi because of the lowered rear chassis. There are similarities in the bonnet and badge to a Vabis from Sweden who made railway wagons from 1891, later cars and trucks. Became Scania-Vabis 1911.

Unknown cca1905 Taxi.jpg
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