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Page 80 below relates to enquiries received during 2015Click on picture to enlarge

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Delahaye Tourer
Fascinating photo sent to us by Jose-Vicente Gaspar
(Spain) believed taken in Spain around 1920 or earlier. Some of the people are part of his family, unfortunately the car is no longer with us. --I am advised by one of our wise sages that this is a cca 1907 Delahaye Tourer. Delahaye is French,  1894 to 1954.  The item on the front of the running board is an acetylene generator. The lower side circular cover / lid releases,  to allow access to the canister in which the calcium carbide was contained.

1907 Delahaye Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Wolseley Siddley Landaulette
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- No registration to help with dating but we fell this is a very similar cca 1908 Wolseley Siddeley Two-seater Landaulette as shown on the previous Help Page, bedecked/hidden by flowers.  This has different windscreen.

1908 Wolseley Siddley Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Humber 16HP Two-Seater
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration is BK 499, which is Portsmouth CBC but dating data is lost. It is possible that this is a 'retained number' or re-body as the body looks lot newer than the registration. The car is a  cca 1910  Humber  16HP  Two-Seater.

1910 Humber 16HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING0:1910 Renault CB 12'16 Landaulette
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- No registration to help dating but the bulkhead radiator does point to it being French. Crisp linear edges to the radiator without curves point to Renault. This would seem to be  cca 1910 Renault CB 12'16 Landaulette.

1910 Renault CB 12'16 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Austro-Daimler Prinz Heinrich
Fascinating photo believed taken c1913 either in Ireland or Insole Court, received from Mike Statham, part of the Research Team at the Friends of Insole Court, formerly Ely Court, Llandaff, near Cardiff in Wales. D
river could be Eric Insole, front passenger Richard O'Callgahan and back seat nearest is Claud Insole.-- The car is a cca 1911/12 Austro Daimler 22'86 'Prinz Heinrich', with a British body. 50 cars were built commemorating  Ferdinand Porsche  winning  1910 Prinz  Heinrich  Trial.

1911 Austro-Daimler 22’86 Prinz Heinrich

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Talbot 4CBX 12HP Tourer
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration letters advise Hertford CC but no numbers to aid dating. This is a cca 1914 Talbot 4CBX 12HP Tourer. Clement Talbot were the London agents of Clement Bayard, then made British cars from 1906, became Darracq.

1914 Talbot 4CBX 12HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Vauxhall Prince Henry Two-Seater
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration is DL 821, which is Isle of Wight CC. We know this a 1914 Vauxhall Prince Henry Two Seater, 3969cc OHV four capable of 75mph. Car was purchased by MRS FA Cheverton,  and is now in National Motor Museum.

1914 Vauxhall Prince Henry Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Hupmobile Model 32 Roadster
Further photograph received from Simon Prentis (UK) saying " Another mystery photo has emerged from our archives. It was apparently taken in 1916. Do you think your veterans expert could identify this vehicle for me too?  -- There is no mention of where the photo was taken; the last one was in Wales. If so, a very strange car to find there, more at home on the plains of Michigan. This is, latest, a cca 1915 Hupmobile Model 32 Roadster. Bonnet style  changed completely  the next season.

1915 Hupmobile Model 32 Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1917 FIAT Speedster
Lovely photo sent to us by Ed Margerum
(USA) of US Marine Corps General Smedley Butler at Gettysburg in 1922. Possibly of European manufacture, right hand drive?. The radiator cap eagle may not be a clue as Eagles are symbol of the Marine Corps . -- This is an Italian car probably manufactured in Poughkeepsie, NY, in the USA, because it is fitted with Westinghouse pneumatic shocks. Pre 1918 type rad so it is probably a cca1917 FIAT Speedster, one of larger models, Tipo 3, 5 or 6.

c1917 FIAT Speedster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920 Sunbeam 16 Tourer
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration is PB 7564 which is Surrey County Council. Car is a cca 1920 Sunbeam 16 Tourer. Very interesting 'spot lamps' beside the windscreen on the lower photo and  big ironwork by  headlamp stands. Suggestion of 3D filming? 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Wolseley Ten Two-Seater
Further photograph received from Simon Prentis (UK) saying " another photo from the same era as the Hupmobile - though nothing is written on it, so I have neither a date or a name. Probably taken in Wales. To my untrained eye possibly another model of Hupmobile?"  -- Wrong continent; Hup is Michigan, US, this is Aston Birmingham, by Electric and Ordinance Co, Stellite, part of Vickers later Wolseley, who then went bankrupt in 1926. This is a cca 1923 Wolseley Ten Two-Seater & Dickey.

1923 Wolseley Ten Two-Seater & Dickey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Steyr Type 5 Tourer
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this vehicle?
-- Made by the Austrian weapons manufacturer OWG in Steyr who hired Ledwinka to design the cca 1923 Steyr Type 5 Tourer. Company renamed to Steyer and employed Ferdinand Porsche. Bailed out by Austro Daimler and became Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG until 2001.

1923 Steyr Type 5 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927 Humber 14'40 Tourer
Further photograph received from Simon Prentis (UK) saying " Another mystery photo has emerged from our archives. It was apparently taken in about 1930 in in Kent. Make, date and value would be great to know!  -- Bit of discussion about this one but our Humberman Tony Oakes thinks this is a cca 1927 Humber 14'40 Tourer. The give away to him is the wind down windows. All 'front-hinged' doors also a Humber feature in the mid to late 1920's.  Price  new for  Tourer  would have been  £440.

1927 Humber 14'40 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Erskine  Model 51 Cabriolet
Another photo received from  Georges Truffaut (Belgium) which they are trying to identify. " Does the car shown in the attached pic ring a bell ? It has a German license plate from the Rheinprovinz.  -- Initially difficult but close study of the radiator header tank shows a pronounced upward widows peak. The car was American (Studebaker) but designed for the European market and did not last long 1927'30. This is a cca 1928 Erskine  Model 51 Cabriolet  with what  looks like a  European body.

1928 Erskine  Model 51 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929 Ford Model A Coupe
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?   --  It is strange just how many American cars there were in 1930sRomania. This is another one. From the shape of the grille and the angled sweep of the cowl, this a cca 1929 Ford Model A Coupe, possibly the Special coupe. Model As followed on after the Model T in 1928 and were made in dozens of styles to 1931. 

1929 Ford Model A Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931 Morris Minor 5cwt Van
Another photograph received from Philip Clarke (UK) who is trying to date it, so identifying year or car may help/bonus. The picture shows the car and chauffeur from Roydon Hall, near Diss in Norfolk, just over the border from Suffolk where the vehicle was registered.  -- Registration is quite visible being RT 7595, which was issued by the County Council of East Suffolk  in mid 1931. The vehicle is a 1931 Morris Minor 5cwt Van, 'flat nose', OHC/SV 847cc.  These were built 1929'1934.

1931 Morris Minor 5cwt Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1935 Mercedes-Benz 290 Cabriolet
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify these wartime vehicles?
-- Suggested as a possible Mercedes Benz, and is one. The W18 range of Mercedes Benz were made 1933 to 1937 and had type number of 290 with numerous variants and four cabriolets. This would seem to be a  cca 1935  Mercedes Benz 290 W18  Cabriolet A.

1935 Mercedes-Benz 290 W18 Cabriolet A

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1935 Auburn 8-851 Phaeton
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?   --  The owner seems very full of himself and rightly so because he has quite an impressive car. Made in USA in Auburn, Indiana, it is a cca 1935 Auburn 8-851 Supercharged Phaeton. The '8' indicates a Lycoming straight eight with a  Schweitzer  Cummings  Supercharger, power 150bhp, speed 100mph.

1935 Auburn 8-851 Supercharged Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1936 Mercedes Benz 130H Cabriolet
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify these wartime vehicles?
-- Suggested as a possible Mercedes Benz, and indeed is one, it is a volkswagen. Manufactured 1934 to 1936 Mercedes made the Mercedes-Benz 130H W23 and this is the Cabrio version. This was their contender for Hitler's "People's Car". Not a successful design.

c1936 Mercedes Benz 130H Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1936 Opel Blitz 12 Light Lorry
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify these Wehrmacht vehicles?
-- Difficult to identify because most militatry vehicles had 'commercial' type wheels/hubs; this is more domestic. Relatively sure now these were made by Opel between 1933 - 1938 and are  Opel  Blitz  2L 12 Light Trucks, only ones to have hubcaps. 

c1936 Opel Blitz 2L 12 Light Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1938 Hansa 1100 Cabriolet
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify these wartime vehicles?
-- This was suggested as a possible Mercedes Benz but is in fact a cca 1938 Hansa 1100 Cabriolet. Hansa was established in 1905, merged with Namag to form Hansa Lloyd in 1914 and taken over by Bogward in 1929. 1100s made between 1934 and 39. 

c1938 Hansa 1100 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1939 Steyr 220 and Willys MB Jeep
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify these captured vehicles?
-- The car on the left is a cca 1939 Steyr 220 Cabrio which were made 1937 to 1940. On the right is the ubiquitous Willys MB type jeep. Design was by American Austin, 'Blitz Buggy', later Am Bantam. 700,000 Jeeps were made by Willys and Ford during WW2.

1939 Steyr 220 and Willys MB Jeep

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1958 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this vehicle?
-- Quite easy to identify country of origin and make of vehicle; UK and Morris Minor. Little more difficult to nail the year because 1.6 million were made between 1948 and 1971. From grille type, windscreen and sidelight size, can tell it is Minor 1000 from between 1954 and 1961.

c1958 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly c1913 NUT JAP Motorcycle
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this motorcycle in Russia?
-- Lovely photo of a racing motorcyclist but not enough of the motorcycle can be seen to sure what exactly it is. Various of our experts have had different interesting suggestion relating to obscure British makes, so we thought we would air them all. Read more!

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified 1920s Tourer
Puzzling photo received from Andrew Randall (UK) saying
driver is distant relative Edward Greenwood Wrigley 1868-1941 who founded EG Wrigley & Company Ltd in 1897, Birmingham, making motor car components; incl gear boxes for 1st World War tanks, and parts for early Aston Martins. In 1924 became Morris Commercial Cars. --Really not enough to provide ID. Writing on scuttle suggests M..C.., Morris Commercial Cars (?) but does not look like a bullnose. Help appreciated!

Unidentified 1920s Tourer
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