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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1899 Star Benz 3.5HP Velo Vis-a-vis
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK) of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. GG was the Managing Director of Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills, Ged has subsequently found other photos of family's early cars but he has no idea of what they were.  -- Very poor contact-strip photo, which we tried to improve. The immediate impression is that the car is a Benz Vis-a-vis. However bit more research suggests this could be c1899 Star Benz 3.5HP Velo Vis-a-vis built in Wolverhampton (UK) under licence. 

1899 Star Benz 3.5HP Velo Vis-a-vis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1899 Hertel 2HP Two-Seater 
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was? Photo from Romanian flea market ! -- Interesting steering arrangement of two bicycle front forks connected to offset tiller mechanism; basically two bikes with a central platform. This is a 1899 Oakman-Hertel Two-Seater with a two cylinder 2HP engine of own design made in Greenfield Massachusetts between 1899 and 1900. Marketed under 'Hertel' name.  

1899 Hertel 2HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902 Knox Tuxedo Surrey
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was? Photo from Romanian flea market ! -- From front 'bonnet' looks a turn of century American car. Indeed so, a vehicle built by the Knox Automobile Co, Springfield, Mass, this is an air cooled cca 1902 Knox Tuxedo Surrey, nicknamed 'Porcupine' in view of cooling studs screwed to the cylinders. Engine was longitudinal 16HP 2 cylinder opposed. Knox lasted to 1914.

1902 Knox Tuxedo Surrey 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1903 Napier 16HP Tonneau
Photo-of-photo received from our Simon Bishop (UK) looking into history of his Singer 14/34 from Scotland. Jamie Adamson, who still ownes the family home Careston Castle, Brechin, Angus, also has photo of a car not recoginised. Great grandfather registered SR 4 as Dodge, later Napier.  -- New reg. SR4 would have been Forfar CC December 1903. Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos agrees this resembles a cca 1903 Napier 16HP Tonneau. Reg plate likely transferred to Dodge later.

 1903 Napier 16HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Possibly 1903 DeDietrich Tonneau
Photo-of-photo received from our Simon Bishop (UK) looking into history of his Singer 14/34 from Scotland. Jamie Adamson, who still ownes the family home Careston Castle, Brechin, Angus, also has photo of a car not recoginised. Great grandfather registered SR2 as a Napier, later a Clement Talbot and then an Argyll.  -- New reg. SR2 would have been Forfar CC December 1903. Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos does not think Napier but suggests perhaps a French cca 1903/4 De Dietrich?

Possibly 1903 DeDietrich Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 De Dion Bouton Two-Seater
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK) of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. GG was the Managing Director of Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills, Ged has subsequently found other photos of early cars but he has no idea of what they were.  -- Very blurry photo, which we tried to improve, of a group of parked cars but no information if family owned. Lack of size and detail in the photo but this looks very much like the Paris made French cca 1903 De Dion Bouton Two Seater,  probably 3HP.

1903 De Dion Bouton Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Wolseley Two Seater
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK) of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. GG was the Managing Director of Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills, Ged has subsequently found other photos of early cars but he has no idea of what they were.  -- Very blurry photo, which we tried to improve, of a group of parked cars but no information if family owned. Lack of size and detail in the photo but we can tell from the wrap-round radiator that this is a cca 1904 Wolseley Two Seater,  but not HP size.

c1904 Wolseley Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Star 7HP Two-Seater
Period photo received from Ged Moss (UK) hoping we can confirm the identify of what he thinks is 7HP Star built from kit by his grandfather, in Wickersley Rotherham. -- Louvres and wheelnuts confuse. Confirmed by Neale Lawson, who has owned a near-identical car for 50 years, that this is indeed a cca 1905 Star 7HP Two-Seater & Dickey. Registration is Rotheram CBC mid/late 1905. Separate hand oiler. The wheel nuts are of hand stamped type, and in May 1904 cars had eight louvre bonnets.

1905 Star 7HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Argyll 14'16 Tourer
Lovely period photo received from Jim Burke (UK) of his great uncle Joseph Burke, chauffeur to the Van Der Bilts in NY and also, he thinks, to Winston Churchill, when MP in Dundee 1908-22. Joseph emigrated to USA 1910 and may have returned for the Churchill job. -- Car is Scottish made in a grand factory in Alexandria. This is a cca 1908 Argyll 14'16 Tourer made for three years. Argyll sold 12'14s to New York as Taxis. Financial problems 1914 and factory sold to Navy for making torpedos.

1908 Argyll 14'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Rover 15HP Tourer
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK) of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. GG was the Managing Director of Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills, Ged has subsequently found other photos of family's early cars but he has no idea of what they were.  -- Very poor contact-strip photo, which we tried to improve, taken at Hop Pole Hotel in Ollerton, near Robin Hood's Sherwood Forrest. Longish louvered bonnet, shield shape rad with notch, and no driver's door, suggests cca 1909 Rover 15HP Tourer.

1909 Rover 15HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Lozier Model H Briarcliff
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this was, from Romanian flea market ! -- American photo possibly originally notated as a cca 1910 Lozier Six Cylinder, is now from the length of the bonnet believed to be a cca 1910 Lozier Model H Briarcliff Touring, four cylinder, with possibly John Perrin, the Chief Engineer, at the wheel. Lozier cars were made in Detroit from 1900, tried to merge with Ford, ended 1915.

910 Lozier Model H Briarcliff Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Daimler 15 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was sent photo by a friend for identification. Suggested 1912 Daimler 20.  -- Apparently Canada. Our photo files suggest Daimler, earlier and smaller. So we did bit more digging and found that a car matching the appearance of this one was in 2013 at National Motor Museum, Birdwood, Austaralia, being a cca 1910 Daimler 15 Tourer purchased new by a Jack Trescowthick of Angaston (SA) at the nearby town Adelaide Motor Show in March 1910.

1910 Daimler 15HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Woods Extension Brougham
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was? Photo from Romanian flea market ! -- Quite a difficult one because American electric powered cars were very popular at the turn of the 20th century and outdid each other in trying to look alike! Bonnet/bodywork is neigh identical. This one is differentiated mainly by numerous wheel bolts front and few rear, suggesting a cca 1912 Woods Extension Brougham.

912 Woods Extension Brougham

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Arrol Johnston 15.9 Tourer
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK) of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. GG was the Managing Director of Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills, Ged has subsequently found other photos of family's early cars but he has no idea of what they were.  -- Scottish car. Company started as Mo-Car Syndicate in 1895, became New Arrol Johnston Car Company in 1905 with factory in Paisley, nr Glasgow, Scotland. Photo is a bit blurry but we are relatively sure this is a cca 1913 Arrol Johnston 15.9 Tourer.

1913 Arrol Johnston 15.9 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919 Morgan 'Sporting'
Couple of interesting photos received from Trevor Neale (UK) of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome of WW1 pilot who served with 37 Sqdn Royal Flying Corps, killed in an air accident in Aden in 1920's.  -- Agreement that this is a cca 1919 Morgan JAP 'Sporting' (1913-21) but probably not the very same one unless pre/post repaint job. Confusing/unlikely that both photos are dated 1920, unless two entirely separate cars; - too many differences. No registration visible to clarify.

1919 Morgan 'Sporting'

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Pic-Pic R2 15'45 Landaulette
Interesting photo received from Amelia Fernandez (Spain) of car taken in San Sebastian, Spain, appr.1925. Enquiry is for a Facebook page of old photos called San Sebastian Desaparecida. -- Rolls quality expensive car, initially conceived in Switzerland by brothers Dufaux 1904, to be made by Piccard-Pictet in Geneva, but became a licensed Hispano Suiza from Spain, bankrupted and taken over 1920 by aero engines Gnome et Rhone of Paris, France,  this is a cca 1920 Pic-Pic R2 15'45 Landaulette.

1920 Pic-Pic R2 15'45 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Ansaldo 4C Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italalian Film 'Una gita scolastica' (A School Outing) made in 1983, where cars are investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a school outing from Bologna to Florence. --  This car was made some ten years after the story was supposed to have happened. Story is set in 1914 pre WW1 and the car is a cca 1923 Ansaldo 4C Tourer made in Turin by one of largest armaments makers. Broken up by Mussolini 1927 when Ansaldo aircraft division became part of FIAT.

1923 Ansaldo 4C Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Darracq DS Tourer
Interesting period photo received from Merrick Rogers (UK) of car driven by late aunt's father, who worked as a chauffeur. Believed to by taken circa 1920, in England. Any help much appreciated. -- Big tourer with reflection of the sun obliterating some identification features. Can however see enough to advise this is a British car with French origins being a cca 1922 Darracq Tourer, probably the 15HP DS Model, made by the STD Company which included Sunbeam, Talbot and Darracq to 1935.

1923 Darracq Tourer, probably the 15HP DS

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly c1930 Mathis Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from from Georges Truffaut (Belgium) of a vehicle he is trying to identify. Does the car front in attached picture ring a bell? Looks like an American automobile.  -- Not a positive identification as the photo is small and not very clear. We feel it is probably not American from the overall shape of the radiator. We think the car is probably French and possibly cca 1930 Mathis Tourer/Coupe Decouvrable. Two sets horisontal louvres  suggests a model  TY or  PY.

Possibly c1930 Mathis Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938 Skoda Popular Roadster
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italalian Film 'Gino Bartali : l'intramontabile' (Gino Bartali : The Iron Man) made in 2005, where cars are investigated by IMCDB. Film is about the life of the road racing cyclist Gino Bartali. --  Car was manufactured in Mlada Boleslav in Czechoslovakia. From other views of the car it seems to have a straight line window sill, seems to have a dickey seat cover and an external spare wheel cover, suggesting this is cca 1938 Skoda Popular Roadster.

1938 Skoda Popular Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1939 Fiat 508 CM Coloniale
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italalian Film 'Gino Bartali : l'intramontabile' (Gino Bartali : The Iron Man) made in 2005, where cars are investigated by IMCDB. Film about the life of the road racing cyclist Gino Bartali. --  Italian car manufactured in Turin based on the Nuova Ballila 1100 as a light tactical military vehicle. Original version was a bit more rounded so this is a cca 1939 Fiat 508 CM Coloniale, which remained in production to 1945, 6000 made, 1089cc 30BHP, rear drive.

1939 Fiat 508 CM Coloniale

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1947 Standard 4-door Saloon
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on facebook and as they had a Standard at the camping ground a few weeks ago, he wondered what model this one was. --  Indeed a 'flying' Standard in view of the flying Union Jack badge on radiator. Upgrade on the pre WW2 Super 12, and as has no bonnet louvres this is a cca 1947 Standard 4-door Saloon. The 12HP and the 14HP cars were very alike, distinguished by badge in starting handle hole denoting HP (missing!).

1947 Standard 4-door Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1960 Wartburg 311 Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this car taken in spring of 1961, probably in the CSSR, and the country from the number plate?  -- Car is of East German origin made in the Eisenach BMW factory with BMW logo, to which BMW objected, becoming EMW, AWE, then VEB. No name on bonnet so is earlier cca 1960 Wartburg 311 Saloon. Wartburg is the local fortress castle. Registration does seem CZ

1960 Wartburg 311 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1967 Subaru 360 Two-door Saloon
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was? Photo from Goodwood Festival of Speed 2018.  -- Japanese, introduced 1958 as their first car and subsequently 392,000 of this model were made. Key (city) Car nicknamed Ladybug has 356cc transverse twin two-stroke air cooled engine. Eventually grew up to be rally winning four-wheel-drive turbocharged Impreza, this is a cca 1967 Subaru 360 Two-door Saloon.

c1967 Subaru 360 Two-door Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Unknown 1920s Tourer
Interesting period photo received from Matthew Marshall (UK) of grandparents's car. Photo taken in  UK on a holiday post-1933, pre-WW2. -- Big low car,  RHD,  large solid wheels, bonnet with tapering slope towards a flat windscreen, bakelite filler cap, big beading round edges of centre doors suggesting older coachwork, chunky sidelights with headlamps low near bumper.  Main suspects like Armstrong and  Lanchester have six wheel studs. Any help would be much appreciated !

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