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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page150 below relates to enquiries received during 2019Click on picture to enlarge
IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,700 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Porthos 24/30 Tourer
Very unusual photo posted by Michael Schlenger on Facebook of German reader's grandfather photographed in Pressburg 1903. --  Unlikely 1903. Our Ariejan Boz agrees a French Billancourt made cca 1906 Porthos 24/30 Tourer. Distinctive flat top to round radiator. Porthos started in 1905 making big expensive cars, including Grand Prix cars, exported to UK, and seems London 1906 registration. Grew fast but liquidated 1909 due scandal about nonsupply of 600 taxis to London.

1906 Porthos 24/30 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1898 Stephens 8HP Dogcart
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not been identified there. -- Large sign saying 'Stephens' as either a maker or Hotel? Georgano advises British cyclemaker 1898-1900 in Clevedon, nr Bristol, made a few similar vehicles as cca 1898 Stephens 8HP Dogcart with two cylinder engine. Used as local taxi ! Prototype still exists and similar car was on the Brighton Run 2019.  Also 9-seaters ?

1898 Stephens 8HP Dogcart

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Buffum 20HP Roi Des Belges
Fascinating feedback from out veterans expert Ariejan Bos (Holland) relating to a photo which has remained unsolved for some time. He believed it could be British. --  However while researching a separate SAHB photo he reverted to his Buffum files and found the same photo.
Same driver is at the wheel of an almost identical 1902 vehicle, which is a Buffum beyond any doubt. Standard Catalog advises American car, Abington 1901/7. This one is the cca  1903 Buffun 20HP Roi Des Belges.

1903 Buffum 20HP Roi Des Belges

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Frazer-Nash Special Sports GN
Enquiry from the 'Honest John Classics' Website (UK) sent in by reader researching a family car.  --  Unusual car similar to one on HP98. Made and registered in Middlesex UK, a later version of popular GN sporting cyclecar made by Godfrey and Frazer-Nash, this is a cca 1922 Frazer-Nash Special Sports GN Two-Seater.
Short-lived GN model bodied by Frazer Nash after both left GN due management changes. Powered by 1100cc four cylinder water cooled engine, shaft drive and solid axle. 

1922 Frazer-Nash Special Sports GN Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Wolseley 8HP Voiturette
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  Interesting to note on the photo that the rear tyre is shredded to the rim and that the others have a metal stud reinforcing layer over the tread. Cars in background late 1920s so likely a posed photo of 'granny'. The two dash tanks are built-in. This is a cca 1905 Wolseley 8HP Voiturette designed by Herbert Austin, left 1905.

1905 Wolseley 8HP Voiturette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Humber Humberette 5HP
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  Humberette was a British cyclecar made by Humber in Coventry and in Beeston in a  number of variants over early years.  This one has the radiator in front of the slightly bigger bonnet, so is cca 1903-5 Humberette 5HP fitted with a De Dion-Bouton 613cc single cylinder water-cooled engine.  Has the later fitted doors.

1904 Humber Humberette 5HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Delage AI Torpedo
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification. --  French car made by company started in 1906 in Levallois-Perret near Paris. Luxury sporting / racing cars followed with many wins. This is a cca 1911 Delage AI Torpedo Two-Seater made in Courbevoie where 350 workers and 1000 cars annually. Grew substantially including aero but depression resulted in being taken over by  Delahaye, name dying 1954.

1911 Delage AI Torpedo Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Humber 10HP Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify hand coloured photo on a Facebook Page. Suggestion it is a Humberette and photo taken 1916.  --  Could be wrong on two counts. Humberette was cyclecar made by Humber in number of variants over early years and was a very small car, (see above on page). Rounded rad, long skirt and rounded mudguard, so this would be a post WW1 cca 1919 Humber 10HP Two-Seater,  so may have been photographed  later  than 1916 ?

1919 Humber 10HP Two-Seater

ADDENDUM TO  DATING:1915 Humber 10HP Two-Seater
Subsequent to the above, further confirmation that photo is 1916. --Further researches determined that Humber 10 was introduced 1914,
War was declared in July. Our Tony Oakes and 'The Humber Story' advise that 245 were made in 1915 and 61 in 1916, Only pictures of 'rounded' rad Humbers were strangely all from the Antipodes; three photos of vehicles, some with local coachwork.  So just possible this is relatively unique exported car, and just possible photographed in 1916.

1919 Humber 10HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 AJS 349cc Single
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification. --  Just a trace of the AJS logo on the petrol tank so a machine made in England by A. J. Stevens & Co. Ltd in Wolverhampton. Our Motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises it is a ecca 1926 AJS 349cc side valve single, possibly Standard Sporting Model G5. Clearly seen better days; primary chain guard  removed and some acetylene lighting equipment is added.

1926 AJS 349cc Single

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Ariel 497cc Model G
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification. --  Make is relatively obvious but the location is not. Our Motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises British bike is cca 1930 Ariel OHV 497cc Model G. Proud looking owner as this was the top-of-the-range sports model which had a single cylinder engine but with twin exhausts. Gearbox was three speed with hand-change.  Reputed top speed of about 80 mph.

1930 Ariel 497cc Model G

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Talbot 25 Roi des Belges
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification. --  Lord Islington was Governor General of New Zeeland 1910-12. Photo is of visit in November 1911 to Greymouth NZ, across South Island to Christchurch. Apparently thousands lined the streets. The car is from the UK Clement Talbot London and from the size of bonnet is likely to have been the cca 1909 Talbot 25 Roi des Belges,  or the bigger 35HP.

1909 Talbot 25 Roi des Belges

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Mercedes Benz 200  Kabriolet
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification, photographed Stutgartt  --  This is a known photo which we have had before on Help Page 83. This photo is titled 'Corbusier 1927 Daimler'. "Le Corbusier " designed this 'Weissenhof Haus ' which was completed in Stuttgart Germany in 1927. The car is not a Daimler but the Porsche designed cca 1927 Mercedes Benz 200 8'38 Stuttgart Spezial Kabriolet. 

1927 Mercedes Benz 200  Kabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1909 Thornycroft 30cwt Flatbed
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification. Also questioning registration and location.  --  This would seem to be a  British just pre-WW1 Thornycroft lorry made in Basingstoke Hants UK. The registration is New Zealand but seems a car plate rather than a lorry plate. Thornycroft were initially makers of steam lorries. Chain drive and shorter bonnet suggest a cca 1909 Thornycroft 30 cwt  Lorry.

c1909 Thornycroft 30cwt Flatbed

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1900 Cleveland Sperry Electric Victoria
Enquiry from William Page
(UK) relating to picture in SVVS late Bryan Goodman's book showing a Cleveland Electric at Stormont Castle. -- Stormont Castle was then residence of Allen family, wife who was a painter, driving. Car was a cca 1900 Cleveland Sperry Electric Victoria,, HISTORY,  3 body styles including Stanhope and Coupe, made 1900-01; c100 were exported to France. Probably fist electric car in Ireland? About 3 survive including a re-reged Stanhope on the Brighton Run N13.

1900 Cleveland Sperry Electric Victoria

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Styl'son 996 Combination
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  --  Lovely JAP V twin in the style of the Brough but our motorcycle guru Chas Moody persevered and eventually determined it is a cca 1930 Styl'son 996 V Twin with English sounding name but made in France at St Etienne (near Lyon) from largely propriatory items. Sucesses in competion resulted in rapid growth and overtrading, liquidated in 1931.

1930 Styl'son 996 Combination

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Vulcan 10HP Two-Seater
Slightly grainy photo from a difficult angle received from
Simon Pocock (UK) looking to identify the car in this old family photo, He is guessing it is some sort of vintage Talbot. --  Regret not a Talbot as these would have had a hump pn top of the radiator. Advised by our Ariejan Bos that this is an unsual British quality car made in Southport, nr Liverpool, by a company making cars since 1902 and made commercials until 1953. This looks like the cca 1906 Vulcan 10HP Two Seater  (as on HP7)

1906 Vulcan 10HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904  Fiat 16HP Tonneau
Lovely period photo received from
Michael Horton (UK) who is trying to identify the vehicle believed to have been taken outside a house known as Oakfield in Esher Surrey circa 1900. Any help identifying the car and registration date much appreciated. --  Registration LN2766 was London CC 1906. Difficult radiator shape to identify as number companies used them in period. Our Ariejan Bos thinks only make having combination of suitable features and chain drive was the cca 1904  Fiat 16HP Tonneau.

1904  Fiat 16HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Vauxhall 14'6 Saloon
Period Photo received from
Philip Clarke (UK) from mid to late 1930s, advised as a Vauxhall 12-4 which Wikipedia says made from 1939. However, advice from elsewhere that the number plate suggests registration is Ayr in 1936.  --  Registration is indeed Ayr in Scotland and the date would indeed be late 1936. The car is indeed a Vauxhall. We however feel from the ribbed bumper and shape of louvres, curved radiator, not the 12'4 but is cca 1936 Vauxhall 14'6 DX Saloon, 1936-8.

1936 Vauxhall 14'6 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Argyll10'12 Tonneu
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  Is that diamond logo on radiator? --  First thought Argyll but couple of oddities: the 'diamond' is the head of a fan fulley boss (often a Clement feature), and rad has angled sides at top. Our Ariejan Bos confirms it is a cca 1904 Argyll 10'12 Tonneu and has photo of same or similar car of New  Zealand Governor General Lord Plunkett,  with Argyll car named.

1904 Argyll 10'12 Tonneu

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Tarrant 10HP Roadster
Fascinating sidetrack
to the above was that an Argyll-like car was the first production car manufactured in Australia. Colonel Harley Tarrant built his first car in 1901 and won Australia's first Motor Race in it in 1904 at Sandown. Photo advises he in an Argyll and Rand in Decauville. Our experts say this is doubly wrong and is a Tarrant and a Mercedes. Harley Tarrant made about 16 cars and was also the agent for Argyll, F.I.A.T, Sunbeam, FN and DeDion. Then became Victoria agent for Ford.

1904 Tarrant 10HP Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1977 Gadabout C Cab Stake
I
nteresting enquiry received from Tim Woolpert (USA) saying: " I've been on a dead end search for many years now trying to obtain more info on my Surrey Gadabout bought by my father in 1970's.  --We first thought 1958 Surrey '03 investigated in 2003, a replica kit car based on the 1903 Curved Dash Oldsmobile made by E W Bliss Company, Ohio, While this is on the same theme, this one was made 20 years later and is a Vintage Reproductions' 1977 Gadabout 'C' Cab Stake.  See History.

1977 Gadabout C Cab Stake

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Stanley Steamer Model C
Photo from Karen McClure of a Stanley Steamer with her grandfather Ellis Robertson taken in 1955, brought a comment from Michael Nadeau Peterborough, NH (USA) that he knew it as owned by George Robertson of Keene. Father worked for Robertson Motors in 1960'70s when it was like-new  in showroom. Dealership was then owned by Tim Robertson. Before closure it closed in 1976, Robertson Motors was one of the oldest continuously operating auto dealerships in the US, started about 1902.

1903 Stanley Steamer Model C

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Rosengart LR4n Saloon
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) received this photo from s friend and both wondered what it was? --  Austin Motor Company était un constructeur britannique de véhicules automobiles, mais cette voiture a été fabriquée en France. Austin cars were manufactured by American Austin, American Bantham, by BMW in Germany as the Dixi and by Datsun in Japan. This one was made in Paris France and is a second generation cca 1928 Rosengart LR4n Saloon. Rosengart closed in 1952.

1928 Rosengart LR4n Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1999 Colonial Cocotaxi
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italian TV series where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.  Two similar vehicles were featured and this is the older one.   --  Very interesting and unusual vehicle which took some finding, and eventually found in Havana, Cuba. This is a cca 1999 Colonial Cocotaxi made and used exclusively in Cuba mainly for transporting tourists in main towns. The machine is effectively a three-wheeled 75cc and pedal power scooter,   with rounded 'coconut' shape!

1999 Colonial Cocotaxi
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