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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
Page129
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Scripps Booth Model C Torpedo
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) sent a link to this photo on Sir
George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Librarie Showing three
cars at an Auction Hall. -- The
cars outside the building have transverse springs etc making them cca
1918 Ford Model T Touring. The car inside the doorway is the
interesting one. An American car built in Detroit, this is a cca 1915
Scripps Booth Model C Torpedo Roadster. Chevrolet took over, grew as GM
and dropped S-B name/products 1922.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Humber 15 Tourer
One of two lovely photos sent
to us by Chris Henley, Wiltshire (UK)
of cars that were owned by his granduncle either
side of World War I. This could be a 1909 Humber 12. Granduncle got his
driving licence 1909 and this perhaps his first car.
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Registration just visible FX 385, being
Dorset CC early 1907. Car indeed Humber but size and radiator shape
suggest this is cca 1907 Humber 15 Tourer, or perhaps the slightly
smaller 10'12, so second-hand?. Humber 12 not introduced until 1910.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Swift Four Seat Tourer
Another photo from Mike Statham of
Insole Research Group (UK)
of car taken outside Cremona House, Swords, Dublin c1906/7. --
Regretfully the registration letters are
not visible, so not an aid in precise dating. Although I recognised the
car, I could not place it! So asked for help from our Ariejan Bos who
advised it was a British cca
1907 Swift Tourer. A similar
1908 car on the Help
Page 94 with doors, which this does
not have, so is a bit earlier. Swift made wide range of models then!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Loreley
One of number of interesting photos sent
to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is collector of old photos. Could we please help with this photo?
It was taken in the city of Nizhny Novgorod (Russian Empire) ca.1916. --
Radiator very typical of the period, with
many cars having similar shape. First thought looks like a White, then
like a lot of things, but could well be a cca 1907 Mira Type C 8HP from
France? Our Ariejan Bos had meantime advised he thinks this is a cca 1908
Loreley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Humber 10'12 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which
had no background to it. He was fairly sure this is a Humber but what
model? --
Yes it is a British Humber. Pointers are the almost
equidistant eight sides to the radiator matrix, the matrix being
heavily finned cooling tubes, a short high located 'header tank', tall
oval badge, no doors, coned wheel hubs; which point to a
cca
1908 Humber 10'12 Tourer. The 'Red Book' says 10'12 made in 1908-9, 12
in 1910-11.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Zedel CA 10hp Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo dated
1921 and taken at Stewarts Gully which is only a few miles from where
he lives. Definitely a Dodge on the left but the other two have him
beat. He recognises the radiator on the right but cannot put a make to
it. -- Not much
to see! Originally a Swiss manufacturer Zürcher & Lüthi, but
moved factory 1905 across the boarder to France. Horisontal bars on
rad which suggests cca 1909 Zedel
CA 10hp Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Dennis 18 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo dated
1921 and taken at Stewarts Gully which is only a few miles from where
he lives. Dodge on the left. He recognises the radiator on the right but cannot put a make to
it. This one is a total mystery - might be American? -- No,
quite unusual British car from company that changed to commercials in
1904 and are still in existence today making dustcarts! This is
c1910
Dennis Tourer, likely 18HP, bigger one
HP107.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Swift 7hp Raceabout
Another interesting period photo
received from our Singer-owning Member Simon Bishops (UK) "
on the back it says '1908 Singer Brans Hatch Half Litre club meeting
May 1951' single cylinder 'Little Audrey'. Not a Singer, but what
is it?-- Our
Ariejan Bos advises "cca
1910 Swift 7hp turned into a racing
monster. Probably a post-war modification, just for fun."
High header tank, not round badge, rad with radiused top corners and
multiple rear wheel studs suggest earlier, poss cca 1907 '7'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Dodge Brothers 30'35 Touring
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo dated
1921 and taken at Stewarts Gully which is only a few miles from where
he lives. Dodge on the left, c1921. The other two have him beat. --
Couple of our experts agree Dodge but
earlier than the 1921 suggested. Dodge Brothers started up in Detroit
USA in 1914 and their earlier cars had no louvres on bonnet, as this
one. In 1917 louvres appeared, so it would be a cca
1915'16 Dodge Brothers 30'35 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Overland Model 81 Touring
One of two lovely photos sent
to us by Chris Henley, Wiltshire (UK)
of cars that were owned by his granduncle either
side of World War I. From the shape of the radiator grill may also be a
Humber, but nothing on internet compares. --
Wrong continent for a Humber. Registration
letter not visible so no help in dating or location. Car is American,
made in Indianapolis and is a cca
19156 Overland Model 81 Touring. Became
Willys-Overland 1912. Just visible logo script on the front
bonnet side.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1916
Straker Squire 5 Tonner
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo of a
lorry in Ireland recently on Facebook. Is it a Straker Squire? -- The
vehicle is marked Daniels' Electric Cinema but has no reg to aid
dating. From the wheels and gas lamps, this would seem to be a cca
1916 Straker Squire 5 tonner
war-surplus with a very much later body. At this time they had a logo
where 't' of Straker is a loop which surrounds above and around and
goes below the word 'Straker' only.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925 Rover 9'20 Two Seat Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old
vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards, including
those for sale on Ebay (UK), of very
interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified!
-- British made car with DE #013. DE is Pembroke
(Wales) County Councill cca 1925. The car radiator header tank has a
notch in it, typical of a Rover. The bonnet has a small batch of
louvres towards the back, five studs, so is cca1925
Rover 9'20 Two Seat Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Paige 6'70 Touring
Lovely period photo
received from Philip Moorhouse (Australia)
saying he is hoping we can help identify this vehicle, which will also
help date the photograph. It appears to be around 1930. It was taken in
Paynesville, Victoria, Australia, outside Paynesville Hotel; word
"BAR" on the windows. -- Our
Mark Dawber in neighbouring New Zealand advised it is an American car
from Detroit and seems to be cca
1925/6 Paige 6'70 Touring, good
condition but worryingly short of wheel nuts.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Albion PM28 Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this Corcorans bus please.
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Registration WW 2728 is West
Riding of Yorkshire. John Stringer advises is a cca
1927 Albion PM28 new June 1927 to
Corcoran Bros of Tadcaster. The company was taken over by the West
Yorkshire Road Car Co 1933 and the Albion became their fleet number
677. It was eventually acquired for preservation & survives today
as chassis only.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Singer Senior Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help identify the bus and car? Car is registration TU 7668
and Bus is AG 6225 .
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Registration TU 7668 is Chester cc
early 1928. Our Singer-owning Member Simon Bishops says he is sure it
is a cca
1928 Singer Senior Saloon. The
rear slats that keep the luggage off the bodywork, the filler cap, and
noting the outline of the
triangular rear light, all seems to be unique to Singer at the time.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1928 Leyland Q Type Coach
One of number of interesting photos sent
to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo of two British
Leyland buses in Moscow in 1920s. -- Indeed
Leyland busses and interesting to speculate exactly what they were
doing there, and why they seem to be decorated with fir branches. The
gentlemen by the busses seem to be oriental. Double row of louvres on
the bonnets suggest these coaches are built on c1928 Leyland Q type
lorry chassis.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931
Leyland Tiger TS1 Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help identify the bus and car? Car is registration TU 7668
and Bus is AG 6225 .
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Registration AG 6225 is Ayr
(Scotland) mid 1931. Bus is therefore a cca 1931
Leyland Tiger TS1 with
Cowieson 28-seater coach body, new to the Scottish General Transport
Co. of Kilmarnock for the Manchester and Blackpool service. Company absorbed
1932 into newly formed Western S.M.T. company.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1934
BSA 249cc B34/2 Sports
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo of two
motorcycles recently on Facebook. On the left a Villiers two
stroke, maybe a Sun? -- Our
veteran biker and Membership Secretary Chas Moody did some digging on BSA
on the right. Most vintage BSA's had a timing chest on the right
pointing forwards to the magneto, or had the engine sloping forwards.
Eventually found it was c1934
BSA 249cc B34/2 Sports by then
available with overhead valves.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1935
Villiers powered Mototcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo of two
motorcycles recently on Facebook. On the left a Villiers two
stroke, maybe a Sun? --
Our veteran biker Chas Moody agrees Villiers
twin port engine with aluminium
flywheel cover and twin exhausts. Engines used by many manufacturers
including Francis Barnett and Excelsior. Difficult to make out name on
tank but Coventry Eagle also had had two tier logo. Perhaps
a small manufacturer in NZ?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1935 Leyland Cub Flatbed
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which
was posted on Facebook. Obviously not in NZ. Maybe someone knows the
make? -- DPF
412, despite Brighton address on cab door, was Surrey CC registration
of 1935. During the 1930s Leyland made a series of models which had
Leyland logo on very tall rad top and model name on rad bottom. This
has square bonnet, small high louvres, with handles, stub dubirons, so seems
a cca
1935 Leyland Cub Flatbed.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937
AEC Regal 0662 Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help identify this bus? Registration is CVD 762. --
Registration is actually CVO
767, Nottingham CC. John Stringer advises the bus is a cca
1937 AEC Regal 0662 with Weymann
35-seater dual-purpose body, new to the Mansfield District Traction Co.
as its fleet number 46. One of six very similar vehicles, this one was
sold 1954 for use by a showman. No ideas to precise location.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 AEC
Regent Weymann D-Decker
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID these two busses in Torquay please?.
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Registration ETT 999 is Devon
County Council late 1937. Mike Sutcliffe advises both busses are (Associated
Equipment Company) AEC Regents with Weymann bodies. On the left is a
pre-WW2 cca
1937 AEC Regent Double Decker Bus
owned by Devon General Omnibus, merged Western National OC after
Nationalisation.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1945 AEC
Regent Weymann D-Decker
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID these two busses in Torquay please?.
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Registration HTT 999 is Devon
County Council late 1945. Mike Sutcliffe advises both busses are (Associated
Equipment Company) AEC Regents with Weymann bodies. On the right is a
cca 1945 AEC Regent Mk III Double Decker Bus
owned by Devon General Omnibus Company, merged Western National OC
after Nationalisation.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1945
AEC Regent MkII Weymann
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID these two busses in Torquay please?.
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Registration GRR 355 is Nottingham
County Council late 1945. Mike Sutcliffe advises that the bus is an AEC
Regent with Weymann body. The bus marked 'Woodhouse' is a
cca 1945 AEC Regent MkII supplied to
Mansfield District Traction Co, a former Balfour Beatty company which
became nationalized as British Transport Commission.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
2001 Yugo Tempo 1.3i Hatchback
Lovely photo submitted by Annika Fuchs
(Germany) who is becoming keen on old cars via her boyfriend.
Both were recently in Rovinj in Croatia and she snapped this vehicle
wandering what it was.--
This car was made in Kragujevac
Yugoslavia, before the recent war broke up the country. Most people
will know company name of Zastava or more recent name of Yugo. This is
a cca 2001 Yugo Tempo 1.3i
introduced 1991. Firm survived war but Yugo
closed 2008 with 794,428 cars made!
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