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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Scripps Booth Model C Torpedo
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) sent a link to this photo on Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Librarie Showing three cars at an Auction Hall. -- The cars outside the building have transverse springs etc making them cca 1918 Ford Model T Touring. The car inside the doorway is the interesting one. An American car built in Detroit, this is a cca 1915 Scripps Booth Model C Torpedo Roadster. Chevrolet took over, grew as GM and dropped S-B name/products 1922.

1915 Scripps Booth Model C Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1907 Humber 15 Tourer
One of two lovely photos sent to us by Chris Henley, Wiltshire (UK) of cars that were owned by his granduncle either side of World War I. This could be a 1909 Humber 12. Granduncle got his driving licence 1909 and this perhaps his first car. -- Registration just visible FX 385, being Dorset CC early 1907. Car indeed Humber but size and radiator shape suggest this is cca 1907 Humber 15 Tourer, or perhaps the slightly smaller 10'12, so second-hand?. Humber 12 not introduced until 1910.

1907 Humber 15 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Swift Four Seat Tourer
Another photo from Mike Statham of Insole Research Group (UK) of car taken outside Cremona House, Swords, Dublin c1906/7. -- Regretfully the registration letters are not visible, so not an aid in precise dating. Although I recognised the car, I could not place it! So asked for help from our Ariejan Bos who advised it was a British cca 1907 Swift Tourer. A similar 1908 car on the Help Page 94 with doors, which this does not have, so is a bit earlier. Swift made wide range of models then!

1907 Swift Four-Seat Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Loreley
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Could we please help with this photo? It was taken in the city of Nizhny Novgorod (Russian Empire) ca.1916. -- Radiator very typical of the period, with many cars having similar shape. First thought looks like a White, then like a lot of things, but could well be a cca 1907 Mira Type C 8HP from France? Our Ariejan Bos had meantime advised he thinks this is a  cca 1908  Loreley.

1908 Loreley

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Humber 10'12 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which had no background to it. He was fairly sure this is a Humber but what model? -- Yes it is a British Humber. Pointers are the almost equidistant eight sides to the radiator matrix, the matrix being heavily finned cooling tubes, a short high located 'header tank', tall oval badge, no doors, coned wheel hubs; which point to a cca 1908 Humber 10'12 Tourer. The 'Red Book' says 10'12 made in 1908-9, 12 in 1910-11.

1908 Humber 10'12 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Zedel CA 10hp Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo dated 1921 and taken at Stewarts Gully which is only a few miles from where he lives. Definitely a Dodge on the left but the other two have him beat. He recognises the radiator on the right but cannot put a make to it. -- Not much to see! Originally a Swiss manufacturer Zürcher & Lüthi, but moved factory 1905 across the boarder to France. Horisontal bars on rad which suggests cca 1909 Zedel CA 10hp Tourer.

1909 Zedel CA 10hp Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Dennis 18 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo dated 1921 and taken at Stewarts Gully which is only a few miles from where he lives. Dodge on the left. He recognises the radiator on the right but cannot put a make to it. This one is a total mystery - might be American? -- No, quite unusual British car from company that changed to commercials in 1904 and are still in existence today making dustcarts! This is c1910 Dennis Tourer, likely 18HP, bigger one HP107.

1910 Dennis 18 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Swift 7hp Raceabout
Another interesting period photo received from our Singer-owning Member Simon Bishops (UK) " on the back it says '1908 Singer Brans Hatch Half Litre club meeting May 1951' single cylinder 'Little Audrey'.  Not a Singer, but what is it?-- Our Ariejan Bos advises "cca 1910 Swift 7hp turned into a racing monster. Probably a post-war modification, just for fun."  High header tank, not round badge, rad with radiused top corners and multiple rear wheel studs suggest earlier, poss cca 1907 '7'.

1910 Swift 7hp Raceabout

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Dodge Brothers 30'35 Touring
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo dated 1921 and taken at Stewarts Gully which is only a few miles from where he lives. Dodge on the left, c1921. The other two have him beat. -- Couple of our experts agree Dodge but earlier than the 1921 suggested. Dodge Brothers started up in Detroit USA in 1914 and their earlier cars had no louvres on bonnet, as this one. In 1917 louvres appeared, so it would be a cca 1915'16 Dodge Brothers 30'35 Touring.

1915 Dodge Brothers 30'35 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Overland Model 81 Touring
One of two lovely photos sent to us by Chris Henley, Wiltshire (UK) of cars that were owned by his granduncle either side of World War I. From the shape of the radiator grill may also be a Humber, but nothing on internet compares. -- Wrong continent for a Humber. Registration letter not visible so no help in dating or location. Car is American, made in Indianapolis and is a cca 19156 Overland Model 81 Touring. Became Willys-Overland 1912. Just visible logo script on the front  bonnet side.

1915 Overland Model 81 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1916 Straker Squire 5 Tonner
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo of a lorry in Ireland recently on Facebook. Is it a Straker Squire? -- The vehicle is marked Daniels' Electric Cinema but has no reg to aid dating. From the wheels and gas lamps, this would seem to be a cca 1916 Straker Squire 5 tonner war-surplus with a very much later body. At this time they had a logo where 't' of Straker is a loop which surrounds above and around and goes below the word 'Straker' only.

c1916 Straker Squire 5 Tonner

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Rover 9'20 Two Seat Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards, including those for sale on Ebay  (UK), of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified! -- British made car with DE #013. DE is Pembroke (Wales) County Councill cca 1925. The car radiator header tank has a notch in it, typical of a Rover. The bonnet has a small batch of louvres towards the back, five studs, so is cca1925 Rover 9'20 Two Seat Tourer.

1925 Rover 9'20 Two Seat Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Paige 6'70 Touring
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period photo received from Philip Moorhouse (Australia) saying he is hoping we can help identify this vehicle, which will also help date the photograph. It appears to be around 1930. It was taken in Paynesville, Victoria, Australia, outside Paynesville Hotel; word "BAR" on the windows. -- Our Mark Dawber in neighbouring New Zealand advised it is an American car from Detroit and seems to be cca 1925/6 Paige 6'70 Touring, good condition but worryingly short of wheel nuts.

1926 Paige 6'70 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Albion PM28 Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID this Corcorans bus please. -- Registration WW 2728 is West Riding of Yorkshire. John Stringer advises is a cca 1927 Albion PM28 new June 1927 to Corcoran Bros of Tadcaster. The company was taken over by the West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1933 and the Albion became their fleet number 677. It was eventually acquired for preservation & survives today as chassis only.

1927 Albion PM28 Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Singer Senior Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help identify the bus and car? Car is registration TU 7668 and Bus is AG 6225 . -- Registration TU 7668 is Chester cc early 1928. Our Singer-owning Member Simon Bishops says he is sure it is a cca 1928 Singer Senior Saloon. The rear slats that keep the luggage off the bodywork, the filler cap, and noting the outline of the triangular rear light, all seems to be unique to Singer at the time.

1928 Singer Senior Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1928 Leyland Q Type Coach
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo of two British Leyland buses in Moscow in 1920s. -- Indeed Leyland busses and interesting to speculate exactly what they were doing there, and why they seem to be decorated with fir branches. The gentlemen by the busses seem to be oriental. Double row of louvres on the bonnets suggest these coaches are built on  c1928 Leyland Q type  lorry chassis. 

c1928 Leyland Q Type Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Leyland Tiger TS1 Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help identify the bus and car? Car is registration TU 7668 and Bus is AG 6225 . -- Registration AG 6225 is Ayr (Scotland) mid 1931. Bus is therefore a cca 1931 Leyland Tiger TS1 with Cowieson 28-seater coach body, new to the Scottish General Transport Co. of Kilmarnock for the Manchester and Blackpool service. Company absorbed 1932 into newly formed Western S.M.T. company.

1931 Leyland Tiger TS1 Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1934 BSA 249cc B34/2 Sports
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo of two motorcycles recently on Facebook. On the left a Villiers two stroke, maybe a Sun? -- Our veteran biker and Membership Secretary Chas Moody did some digging on BSA on the right. Most vintage BSA's had a timing chest on the right  pointing forwards to the magneto, or had the engine sloping forwards. Eventually found it was c1934 BSA 249cc B34/2 Sports by then available with overhead valves.

c1934 BSA 249cc B34/2 Sports Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1935 Villiers powered Mototcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo of two motorcycles recently on Facebook. On the left a Villiers two stroke, maybe a Sun? --  Our veteran biker Chas Moody agrees Villiers twin port engine with aluminium flywheel cover and twin exhausts. Engines used by many manufacturers including Francis Barnett and Excelsior. Difficult to make out name on tank but Coventry Eagle also had had two tier logo. Perhaps a small manufacturer in NZ?

c1935 Villiers powered Mototcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1935 Leyland Cub Flatbed
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which was posted on Facebook. Obviously not in NZ. Maybe someone knows the make? -- DPF 412, despite Brighton address on cab door, was Surrey CC registration of 1935. During the 1930s Leyland made a series of models which had Leyland logo on very tall rad top and model name on rad bottom. This has square bonnet, small high louvres, with handles, stub dubirons, so seems a cca 1935 Leyland Cub Flatbed.

1935 Leyland Cub Flatbed

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 AEC Regal 0662  Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help identify this bus? Registration is CVD 762. -- Registration is actually CVO 767, Nottingham CC. John Stringer advises the bus is a cca 1937 AEC Regal 0662 with Weymann 35-seater dual-purpose body, new to the Mansfield District Traction Co. as its fleet number 46. One of six very similar vehicles, this one was sold 1954 for use by a showman. No ideas to precise location.

1937 AEC Regal 0662  Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 AEC Regent Weymann D-Decker
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID these two busses in Torquay please?. -- Registration ETT 999 is Devon County Council late 1937. Mike Sutcliffe advises both busses are (Associated Equipment Company) AEC Regents with Weymann bodies. On the left is a pre-WW2  cca 1937 AEC Regent Double Decker Bus owned by Devon General Omnibus, merged Western National OC after Nationalisation.

1937 AEC Regent Weymann D-Decker

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1945 AEC Regent Weymann D-Decker
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID these two busses in Torquay please?. -- Registration HTT 999 is Devon County Council late 1945. Mike Sutcliffe advises both busses are (Associated Equipment Company) AEC Regents with Weymann bodies. On the right is a cca 1945 AEC Regent Mk III Double Decker Bus owned by Devon General Omnibus Company, merged Western National OC after Nationalisation.

1945 AEC Regent Weymann D-Decker

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1945 AEC Regent MkII Weymann
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID these two busses in Torquay please?. -- Registration GRR 355 is Nottingham County Council late 1945. Mike Sutcliffe advises that the bus is an AEC Regent with Weymann body. The bus marked 'Woodhouse' is a cca 1945 AEC Regent MkII supplied to Mansfield District Traction Co, a former Balfour Beatty company which became nationalized as British Transport Commission.

1945 AEC Regent MkII Weymann

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 2001 Yugo Tempo 1.3i Hatchback
Lovely photo submitted by Annika Fuchs (Germany) who is becoming keen on old cars via her boyfriend. Both were recently in Rovinj in Croatia and she snapped this vehicle wandering what it was.-- This car was made in Kragujevac Yugoslavia, before the recent war broke up the country. Most people will know company name of Zastava or more recent name of Yugo. This is a cca 2001 Yugo Tempo 1.3i introduced 1991. Firm survived war but Yugo closed 2008 with 794,428 cars made!

2001 Yugo Tempo 1.3i Hatchback
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