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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1900
New Orleans 6HP
One of three photos received from Mark Ward
(UK).
The pictures were taken at The Msins of Tanakie, a farm at Port
Gordon Scotland. The man in the driving seat of SA2 is George Mckay a
farmer and contractor who owned 3 steam engines. --
SA2 was an Aberdeen CC reg and our David Hales
happens to know that it was first issued to James Grieve of Turriff,
which was just the Aberdeen side of the Banff border. The car is very
unusual, being a Twickenham London made cca
1900 New Orleans.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1900
New Orleans3.5HP
Second of three photos received from Mark Ward
(UK) taken as above and registered
in Aberdeen. --
Same make of car as above, cca
1900 New Orleans Two Seater. Both are probably badged Belgian
Vivinus by HG Burford in Twickenham, London. Subsequently made under
licence. Bigger cars were called Orleans. Neither had connections with
USA but named after address Orleans Road, which in tern was named after
the estate of the exiled Duc d'Orleans, 1830, short while King of the
French.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1901
Gardner Serpollet Steamer
Intriguing photo c1910 sent to us by
Michael Dixey
(UK) of his great
grandmother Annie, married to Dr Benjamin Duke, a GP who lived at
Windmill House in Clapham Common. --
We had a lot of help but the definitive answer came from David
Burgess-Wise in saying it is almost certainly a
cca
1901 Gardner Serpollet Steamer.
Serpollets at that period used various designs of condenser. The fitting
beneath the condenser is a separator to remove oil
from water before recycling.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Humberette Two-seater
Third of three photos received from Mark
Ward (UK) taken as above and
registered in Aberdeen. --
SA5 was an Aberdeen CC reg. and would have been issued when
registrations first began there in January 1904. Cars already in use
tended to be registered first which agrees with the dating of this as a cca
1903 Humberette Two Seater. Humber began by making bicycles,
then motorbikes and then cars. Humberettes (Humber voiturette) made in
Coventry 1903-05 were first volume made UK cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Progress Tonnneau
Two puzzling photos sent to us by Gillian
Fynes (UK) believed
to be GGFather or even GGGfather Darbyshire owning explosives company
building Penmaenmawr tunnel in Wales. -- Our
David Hales advised this is very unusual 8hp
Progress (DDB engine) yellow &
black tonneau, registered Caernarvon CC 3rd July 1905 to TC & RG
Williams of Grenville House, Penmaenmawr and transferred to a Gladiator
in 1907. Progress were liquidated 1903 so previously registered or
follow-on 'West Aster'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1905
Fiat 60HP Tourer
Another photo that has done the
international rounds was
received from Kjeld Duits
(Japan) who is the Japanese Correspondent for
the Dutch press. He recently bought a very charming card of three
Japanese women in kimono but could not work out what the car was.
--We
thought it was a FIAT, which was confirmed by our John Warburton saying
he is confident that it was a
1905-7
FIAT 60hp six cylinder. The 'Speedster' type scuttle suggest
a possible later American style body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Darracq Tourer
Another photo which is not what it seems.
Received from Doriel
Laron (UK)
researching family history and came across the attached photo in a set
marked 1908. Grandfather, Jimmy Nye, is one of the 'jokers' in the back!
The family were living in Dulwich at the time. Would it be possible for
you to provide me with any information on the car? -- Reg
is London 1908 but our John Warburton thinks it is a cca
1906 Darracq Tourer, probably
imported when it was two+ years old. See
similar
car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Talbot Tourer
Formal photo from Jennifer Hudson Dunedin (New
Zealand) of a family car taken in 1921 at Revingtons Hotel.
Husband's great grandfather was an early settler in Dunedin starting a
large chocolate and biscuit making businessn, now Cadburys. Similar
photo, same car, same place but different people showed Lord and Lady
Jellicoe, Governor General touring South Island of NZ. The Hudson's car
was used for this event. Investigating but is a cca
1906 Talbot Tourer. Probably 24'30 4 cyl. TBA!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Humber Tourer
Two puzzling photos sent to us by Gillian
Fynes (UK) believed
to be GGFather or even GGGfather Darbyshire owning explosives company
building Penmaenmawr tunnel in Wales. --
Ident has been confirmed by John Warburton and David Hales as cca 1906
Humber Tourer 16/20hp, or 15hp, or even 20hp. The single spoke steering
wheel is typical of a Hhumber of the priod. The CW 119 Burnley CBC
registration was first issued to a motorcycle in about
May 1905. All very intriguing.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
White Tourer
Intriguing damaged photo posted on AACA by
Huptoy (USA) taken
in San Francisco about 1912. Grand father is in the passenger
seat of what appears to be a large car as he was 6'6" tall. After
the 1906 earth quake, he moved to CA from Green Bay, Wi in 1907. --
Picture has large sections missing but is recognisable by radiator as cca
1908 White Tourer and we repaired photo
as such. White were into making sewing machines when junior in 1900
patented a steam car. Pres. Taft had one.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Pipe Armoured Car
Fascinating photo sent to us by Mikhail
Katyshev from Almati (Kazakhstan) which
he noted on a Russian 'armored' website. -- John
Warburton noted the Belgian ref on the rad and sent photo to Malcolm
Jeal, who had no doubt this was a Belgian 'Pipe'
of around 1910, possibly biggest model,
an 80cv of just over 11-litres. CBdCA
in Brussels were then the largest car producer in Belgium, also made
pipes and boilers, so the armoring may have been them & their
boiler plating.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Charron Taxicab
Lovely period photo sent to us by
Roger Gould (UK) taken
in Bedford outside St. Peter's Church. No date to the photo but
probably some years after the taxi was made.
-- First thought was that
it was a Renault of the Taxi de la Marne type but our John Warburton
thinks it is a Charron. Despite Charron generally having a taller rad
filler, having a sloping rad top, and many having a petrol filler cap
behind, the scuttle bonnet curves in the middle, unlike Renault
angle. So
cca
1910 Charron.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Chain-drive Special
Curious photo received from Doriel
Laron (Israel),
sorry for poor quality, asking
if we can help identify this car from an old family photo? Believed taken
in Austria around 1913. -- This
looks like a 'special' constructed on an early
chain drive light car 1902-5, (tubular chassis frame, very short
wheelbase) modernised cca 1912
Special
with a later radiator a la Clement, and teutonicish
bodywork, and
steering column moved back and inclined. Stubby
tubular dumbirons, bit like a Darracq.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Ford Model T Tourer
Photo sent to us by Trevor Watson
(UK) trying to identify the car. His
mother is the child in white at the back held by his Grandmother. The
driver is either Great uncle Percy Campion or his brother Norman. The
front passenger is the third brother, Trevor's grandfather. Mother was
born in 1924, and judging by her size, the photo was taken in 1926. --Car
is relatively easy to identify as it has a transverse front spring and
the Warwick registration indicates it is a cca 1913
Ford Model T Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Paige Detroit Touring
Photo sent to us by Greg Blasingame
(USA) of his grandfather
in the front seat. It says 1913 MICH on tag but he cannot find out what
the car is. Any help would be nice. --
We can advise that the car is a cca 1913 Paige Detroit Model 36 Touring.
Early Page-s were financed by Harry Jewett and designed by Bachie and
promoted by Paige. Cars were rubbish, Paige was ousted and a new car was
designed in 1911. The 36 introduced 1913. Jewett sold out to
Graham-Paige Motor Corp. in 1927.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920s
Rugby Special
Enquiry received from Christopher Koustakos
(Cyprus) with
friend in Larnaca who has a 1920s
registered Rugby with a Fivet engine.
-- Lots of people
have looked at this and all agree that this has NO connection with
Durant/Star/Rugby apart from the rad/badge. It is a definite 'bitsa'
which seems to have no specific connection with any one car. Fivet
engines were fitted to ACs and few others including Le Gui, as initials
on rear hub, but chassis unlike Le
Gui. Any help appreciated.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Oakland Sports Touring
Lovely period photo posted on AACA by
Rich Brown (USA) taken
in western Washington state around 1918 or so. Can someone help
with the make/model of this car? Looks like a Buick.
-- No not a Buick, badge
looks Oakland. Bit more research suggest an Oakland
between 1918 large louvers and central light bar, and 1922 thin louvers
and 1924 low light bar. So cca 1920 Sensible Six Sports Touring. Oakland
became General Motors and introduced the Pontiac brand, which
killed Oakland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1922 Ford Model T Coupe
Two photos sent to us by Rosalie
Cagnini (USA) saying
she needs some help identifying the cars. --
This looks very much like a cca 1922 Ford
Model T Coupe. Frank at the AACA points
out the transverse spring parallel to the rear axle. Manuel
suggest that there appears to be a flat area at
the back that the boy is sitting on, so a coupe. Keiser notes the three
raised molding lines, one just under the window, one just at the
intersection of the body/trunk and one at the rear edge of the trunk
lid.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Austro Daimler Pickup
Unusual photo posted by Burkhard
from (Germany) purchased at a flea market in Austria and
wants more information about. On the side "Katrschberg-Schlepper"
meaning a recovery vehicle in the Katschberg mountains of Austria, doing
its job of towing a late 30s Opel. --
The unusual radiatior and the double stacked Teutonic side/headlamps
indicate a
cca 1922 Austro Daimler of the AD 617
Tourer type designed by Porsche. This type rad was
cca 1917 to '27. Lovely truck conversion.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Sunbeam 30/90 Saloon
Picture found in an old book by Tony Oakes (UK) of a
rather grand car. --
It is a cca
1927 Sunbeam 30'90 Saloon. Sunbeam
started making bicycles and then the quirky Sunbeam-Mabley. Mainstream
cars were originally assembled Berliet 12HP. Louis Coalten joined in
1909 designing quality performance cars and Grand Prix cars. Amalgamated
with Darracq in 1920 who had bought Clement-Talbot, and formed STD
Motors. STD went into receivership in 1935, purchased by Rootes Group.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Wolseley 12'32 Saloon
Photo sent to us by our Singer
expert Simon Bishop (UK) saying
he received the photo but can confirm it is not a Singer. Any ideas what
it is? -- I think it
is a Wolseley
and our experts agree. The bonnet has two sets of louvers. Multiple sets
of louvers was very much a Wolseley thing. A-Z of Cars 1920s shows a
Wolseley 12'32 de Luxe Four Door Saloon with two sets louvers. These
were made 1927-30. Coachwork, perhaps Weymann. Wolseley made
Weymann and own Fabric saloons.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Cadillac Town Sedan
Two photos sent to us by Michael Maisey (UK) investigating
family history and found photos belonging to his wife's father now deceased.
They came from Konigsberg (now Kaliningrad) and her great-grandfather
was Salomon Aschkanasy 1848-1906. Photo probably taken in Germany. Would
be grateful for any suggestions as to the car make, year, etc. -- This
did not look a European car so got help from our friends at AACA
where Keiser soon identified it as a cca 1929
Cadillac.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1938
Austin York Saloon
Another photo sent to us by Gillian
Fynes (UK) taken
on a holiday in Scotland August 1939. Could we tell who it was
registered to; perhaps Albert Collinson? -- While
we can date registrations, and occasionally our experts may have details
copied from local records, - generally only the DVLA can tell if there
are any original owners on their records. We can say the reg is Grimsby,
and Austin expert Jim Stringer advises the blurry car is probably a late
1938
Austin 18HP York Saloon, 6
cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1910 Unknown Tourer
Two photos sent to us by Michael Maisey (UK) investigating
family history and found photos belonging to his wife's father now deceased.
They came from Konigsberg (now Kaliningrad) and her great-grandfather
was Salomon Aschkanasy 1848-1906. Photo probably taken in Germany. Would
be grateful for any suggestions as to the car make, year, etc. --
Done the rounds of our experts and nobody
has come up with a positive ID. Suggestions of Adler and Laurin &
Klement.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1920 Unknown Two-Seater
Two photos sent to us by Rosalie
Cagnini (USA) saying
she needs some help identifying this car. Is it a Ford Model T?
-- No
it is not a Model T, and at this stage we are not able to tell what it
is. Photos taken from the back are notoriously difficult to
identify. We have tried our experts here and have asked our friends at
the AACA but nobody has come up with anything. The
roadster could be one of many makes from around 1918-22ish. Tank
between the rear springs is a pointer. HELP PLEASE !
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