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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 67 below relates to enquiries received
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
De Dion Bouton Double Phaeton
Lovely period photograph received from Mohammed
"Vintage" Khan (Dubai)
asking if we could you please help him identify the cars in the
attached photograph. He wishes to know their names as he intend to
include them in the book he is currently writing on vintage &
classic cars of Hyderabad-Deccan. --
From the radiator shape, the cars on the
left and right are French made cca
1907/8 De Dion Bouton Double Phaetons.
The centre car could also be French, but the rad is obscured.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Unknown Open Tourer
Couple of postcards received from Philip
Clarke (UK)
saying he is interested in dating the pictures. This shows
Crown Corner in Diss, Norfolk, taken after January 1901 and before
1933. Other photographs show decorated shops for Coronation of Edward
VII in 1902, but car doesn't quite seem that old. Perhaps 1911, for the
Coronation of George V? -- Probably.
The car is very difficult to identify from the back of a coachbuilt
body, but registration is West Suffolk C Council cca
1907.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Daimler 15 Tourer
Photograph received from Tim
Lamrock (Australia)
saying that it shows his grandfather (Mr J R Bainton)
who was an engineer in Sydney at the turn of the century and had one of
the first De Dion cars in Australia in about 1905. But Tim is trying to
identify this later car from this picture taken probably after 1910. -- The
fluted radiator is the giveaway as to the make. Square-edged round
mudguards, wire wheels and very small wheel hubs suggest a lighter
model so a cca
1911 Daimler 15 HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Ford Model T Tourer
Couple of postcards received from Philip
Clarke (UK)
saying he is interested in dating the pictures. This shows
Mount Street in Diss, Norfolk, probably dated around 1915 or ten years
either way. There appears to be two soldiers in the picture, one on
horseback, which might suggest some time around WWI. -- The
car has a registration AH 1599 which is Norfolk County Council c1915.
The car is American, possibly assembled in Trafford UK, being cca 1915
Ford Model T, probably Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Deemster 10hp Sport
Unusual vehicle being investigated by
AutoPuzzles. -- Radiator
is of the V-ed bullnose type with a circular logo on the hoeycomb,
suggesting possibly French practice. No, this has a letter
just poking out of the circular logo. The body and the boot do not have
a smooth join, nor do they have a separation, so this is a cca
1921 Deemster 10hp Sports. Deemster
were British, made in Acton, London, by the Ogston Motor Co
1914-24. This one used Anzani engine. Unrealised plans to make in USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Packard Twin-Six Buffalo Bus
Unusual vehicle being investigated by
AutoPuzzles. Not found the coachbuilder either. -- Radiator
and bonnet have a humpy profile so could be Buick or Packard. Wheelhubs
are Packard. Further research determined it was a vehicle marked
"1921 Packard bus conversion". Even more reserach identified
it as being a cca
1921 Packard 1921 Twin Six; presumably
the 3-35. Eventually determined that it was made by the Buffalo Body
Corp, on order from the Packard Motor Car Company.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Ford Model T Touring
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Rather damaged photo which took quite a lot or repair. One
advantage of the repair work is that details can be studied during
the process and these provide the identification features.
Transverse spring and absence of side lamps, plus other
features, advises this is a cca
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Mercedes Targa Florio
Couple of fuzzy photos
received from Peter Garman, (New Zealand)
of grandfather Henry Frederick Garman, a
driver/mechanic for Mercedes, at "Southport Sands 1920's". Is
that Ferdinand Porsche ? -- Our
experts advise this is the 1924
Mercedes Targa Florio car subsequently owned by Gerald Palmer and ran
in VSCC events. Chap with the moustache is not Ferdinand Porsche as
unlikely he came to England and Targa car was obsolete by then. Very
little info on Southport events in the press.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Fiat 2F Charabanc
Photograph received from Enno Schlechter,
Munich (Germany)
saying probably Fiat but could we identify model and year of
construction? May be inauguration of motorized bus service in the alps -- La
Trattoria Due Spade is still on the Italian alpine zigzag road
Chiavenna-Campodolcino-Madesimo and to Splugen in Switzerland, as
written on the front bus which looks a cca 1924 Fiat 2F Charabanc,
possibly bodied by Tarchini e Briata from Brescia. The second bus
seems to be Italian State Railway.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925
Lancia Lambda Torpedo
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Lovely photo of a quite revolutionary
car made in Turin Italy, between 1922 and 1931, designed by
Vincenzo Lancia. This one has the later windscreen so must be cca1925
Lancia Lambda Torpedo, first car
with a monocoque body and sliding pillar independent
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1925
Unknown Doctor's Coupe
Tiny photograph received from Aaron
Brookes, a London Architect (UK)
saying he is trying to establish a date for the building, and the
identification of the vehicle together with a probable date of
manufacture would provide a 'definitely not before' date. -- The
vehicle details are too small/blurry to provide identification. The car
is a mid 1920s mid range size Doctors
Coupe. If the car was new, the house
was already there in the 1920s. If vintage car enthusiasts, - any
time after.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Fiat 505F and 2F Vans
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by Tony Hillyard (France)
saying that on a recent visit to Australia a relative gave him a copy
of this photograph. Can anyone suggest the makes of the vans please?
-- This very
small blurry photo seems to have remained unidentified for a couple of
years but I am relatively sure they are Fiats. Two on the left, bottom
photo, are cca 1925 Fiat 505F Van (Furgone), and the others the earlier
2F Vans. Seem to have wheel disc protectors on lower photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Unic L2 Pickup
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an
French film " La Maison du Maltais " made in 1938 where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. The film is about a prostitute Safia from the Tunisian town
of Sfax being blackmailed in Paris about her child not by her Maltese
husband. --
This was made by a French company founded in 1905 by Georges Richard
leaving Richard-Brasier and being financed by Rothschild. Well into
commercials, this is a cca
1925 Unic L2 Pickup.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Clyno 10.8HP Two-seater
Lovely photograph received from
Alan Barrett, of Bedfordshire (UK)
saying he recently purchased a number of glass black and
white negatives. This one was marked "Mum with Gracey in her
car" - Hythe. Dated March 1930. Can we tell him what the car is.
-- Looks
British, no badge, and initially we thought Hillman but were soon put
right by our experts who advised this is the little more obscure
Wolverhampton made cca
1926 Clyno 10.8HP Two-seater, with a
missing radiator badge.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Buick Master Six Sedan
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an
French film " Le dernier tournant " (The Last turning) made in
1939 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is
about a Garage truck stop owner's wife Cora trying to get rid of her
husband via a visiting hobo Frank. --
The badge on the rad is American Buick. The car has chromed bullet
shaped headlamps so must be a cca
1928 Buick Master Six, probably four
door sedan Model 50. The radiator style changed in 1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Minerva AK Limousine
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by Hans Salm (Germany)
saying that the
grandfather of a friend had in ca. 1935 the Minerva car shown in the
picture. The picture was taken in Germany. Do we know which model it
was? --
A big car and a small driver? Minerva were a prominent Belgian
manufacturer 1902 - 1938 of same quality as Rolls Royce but little less
expensive. This is a cca 1929 Minerva AK Limousine with a 6 litre
Knight sleeve valve engine. Favored by European Royalty.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
Oakland 212 Sport Phaeton
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by David Thomson saying that it shows one of their member's grandfather
and his family at a plantation in '20s Malaya. The car looks American
but has them all stumped! He had hoped the grille would give it away
but no luck. -- This
was a damaged photo requiring repair to see the rad. I am relatively
sure this is a cca
1929 Oakland 212 Sport Phaeton. Has
scuttle and wing sidelights. Similar but more angular rad centre
on Pontiac stable mate.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1938
Chrysler Royal Touring Sedan
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Photo was headed 'Masina Regala' which translates as Royal Car.
Royal Indeed, this is a cca 1938 Chrysler Royal Touring Sedan.
Chrysler flagships of the time were the Royal and the Imperial
with similar appearances, Imperial being the slightly higher
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933
Riley Lincock Fixed Head Coupe
Photograph received from Bob Williams
from Bedfordshire (UK)
saying that as a a classic car owner, he is hoping we may be able to
identify the make and model of the car in the attached photo of his
cousin and Great Uncle (seated in the car), probably taken in the late
1940's. -- Quite
a well known make but a relatively unusual model. We are advised by
William Brereton that from the flat running boards and the bolt on
wheels this is not 1934 but a cca
1933 Riley Lincock Fixed Head Coupe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1939
Morris 8 Series E Saloon
Photographs received from Geoff Smith
(UK)
saying that a friend is selling an old car in Madeira. Not
even sure of the make or model ! Appreciate rough guide price.
-- Can advise
that this is a cca
1939 Morris 8 Series E Two Door Saloon
built from 1938 to 1948 and 130,000 made, split by WW1. Dating
difficult because they were generally unchanged. A popular very basic
car, so values regretfully are quite low. A 1939 'barn find' recently
sold for cca UK£3,000 and a good one at cca £6,000.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1949
Austin A 90 Atlantic Convertible
Photograph received from Dee
(India)
saying this car was in India. "It's not Tucker, even it has the
three headlights... Just bugging me... I like to know... Would you
please tell me the maker, made, model and year of this car? Or any
small detail related to this... I would really appreciated your help.
Thank you so much. " --
Tucker was American, this is British. The two small 'A' signs up behind
the headlights advise this is a cca
1949 Austin A 90 Atlantic Convertible,
- intended for USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1956
Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire
A number of photographs received from
Zoe Ballz (UK)
saying they were out exploring on a Sunday and came across a car in a
wrecked garage and attached photos. Could we possibly be able to
identify it for her. NOT in good condition !! -- Quite;
generally described as 'barn find'! Not seemingly much to go on but
this is a British cca
1956 Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire Limousine.
Has to be the limousine rather than saloon because wing molding
finishes before the rear wing, laving a flat gap.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
Two-seater Body
Photograph received from Gian
Carlo Biancardi (Brazil) saying
that the reason for his e-mail is to
request help to identify car body he bought in Chile. To him it seems
an English car of the late 20s. -- This
photo has done the rounds of our experts but nobody has come up with an
identification. We are all relatively sure it is not an English car,
perhaps French? Uneven heights of doors, staggered seating, holes on
bodywork joins etc. Guessing, left hand drive; hole in dash matches
bulkhead hole.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
Tourer in New Zealand
Photograph received from Ivo
(Belgium) saying
he received this photo from New Zealand and that the front passenger
was a Mayor of a town near Christchurch. It has been suggested that the
car migh be a Metallurgique, which he doubts, but this could be
Imperia? -- This
photo seems to have done the rounds but nobody has come up with an
identification, mainly because of the strange spitzkuhler nose. Many of
our experts have spent hours on this, and we know many cars it is NOT !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
Tourer in France
Photograph received from Stephen
Ramsay, Chelmsford, (UK)
asking if we can help him identify this car. The
picture (which is not of great quality) is from a postcard of a village
in Northern France, possibly around 1924. -- Another
photo examined by our experts but again without a positive
identification. The immediate impression is French Berliet, but too
many things against it. Not La Buire, Corre la Licorne, Cottin
Desgouttes, Delaugere Clayette etc. American? Perhaps Bianchi?
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