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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

  Please note that if you are submitting an enquiry, we will assume that we have your permission
   that we can publish the photo, background story to it, and your name and country calling from.
 

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Page147 below relates to enquiries received during 2019Click on picture to enlarge
IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,500 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1917 Ford Model T Centerdoor'Tourer
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) from Montana,  which they have not been able to identify. This photo looks like a mid 1920's road trip. The hood is open on the front car. Location unknown.  --  Very small indistinct blurry photo but we are relatively sure both cars are Model T Fords. The left car, with the bonnet off, is a post 1917 'Centerdoor' Sedan, possibly as on HP 145 , and on the right, a post 1917 Model T Tourer,  - both with running board racks. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1917 Ford Model T Touring
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) from Montana, which they have not been able to identify. This photo looks 1920's.  --  This is a very poor faded and scratched blurry photo which we have tried to recover to be viewable. Regretfully the children's faces could not be recovered. The car detail is also lost so accurate dating cannot be made. This is a post cca 1917 Ford Model T Ford Touring, and it could be the touring model shown on above photo.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Unic C7 12HP Landaulette
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eriod photo sent in to Rootschat by Pippakit (UK) asking for dating and identification of the car as grandfather driving the car was chauffeur to Lord Leverhulme. -- Looked familiar and found on Help Page 18 as having been received from Crossley Website as not a Crossley car.  This was made in Paris, France, by Georges Richard and is a cca 1913 Unic C7 12HP Landaulette. Sold in UK by Mann & Overtons of Westminster, Unic-s were very popular in London  as the primary Taxi of the day.

1913 Unic C7 12HP Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Buick Master Six Sedan
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) from Montana,  which they have not been able to identify. This portrait is tagged as Denver, Colorado.  --  Quite a few American cars of that period had slightly wavy bonnet and widows peak type radiator tops, so it is little difficult to identify with someone blocking out most of the rad. Fortunately the patterned headlights and strengthening bar she is sitting on suggest this is a  cca 1925 Buick Master Six,  50 Sedan.

1925 Buick Master Six Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Rover 12 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle posted on a Facebook page. from Masterton ollection. Caption - circa 1920 the Percy family of 'Ellesmere'. --  There is an Ellesmere near Liverpool in the UK but there is also one in Canterbury New Zealand. The big cactus may suggest NZ. The car is British but has no registration which was mandatory in the UK. This is an Owen Clegg designed cca 1912 Rover 12 Tourer with  4-cylinder engine of 2297cc.

1913 Rover 12 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934 Hudson Eight Sedan
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) from Montana,  which they have not been able to identify. This probably California in the late '30s. --  Our Mark Dawber advises this is a cca 1934 Hudson Eight Sedan. This one is the 'standard' model on the 123" wheelbase. There was a Deluxe model with nicer interior but that one had fender lamps. There was also a lower price model on a shorter wheelbase but that did nott have the vent windows in the front doors.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930s Jaguar SS 90'100 Sports
Interesting photo received from Michel Cann (UK) who is trying to identify the make and model of this car, any ideas ?  --  Photograph, taken 'portrait', seems to have been taken in France and the car seems to be at some sort of an exhibition. The car depicted is a SS 90-100 Jaguar made by SS cars 1935-41. Very popular cars whose performance was a bit less than its looks! In view of such good modern reproductions it is difficult to tell from this photo if it is a genuine article,  or a replica. 

1930s Jaguar SS 90'100 Sports

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1925 Citroen Model C3 Torpedo Special
Another on the theme of disguising the base automobile found while surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles which have not yet been identified. --  Fascinating photo because it is of a very much modified standard car altered to look much more modern than it was. The only recognisable item, had it not been covered by a winter warmer, would have been the radiator. It is longer chassis cca 1925 Citroen Model C3, with different wings, shocks, wheels, badge bar..

c1925 Citroen Model C3 Torpedo Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Argyll 14'16 Tourer
Interesting period photo sent in to Rootschat by Sheila M (UK) asking for dating and identification of the car, possibly the first car in Leyburn. Model T?  --  Registration is unfortunately just not visible, but seems to start with 'C' which would fit Yorkshire. Definitely not a Model T Ford. Not American but Scottish, made in Alexandria, and was the biggest manufacturer in Scotland. This looks quite a big car so is probably the cca 1906 Argyll 14'16 Tourer. Closed 1908, rebirth 1910,  last car 1928.

1906 Argyll 14'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Arrol Johnston 12HP Dogcart
Interesting period photo sent in to Rootschat by Greenvalley (UK) asking for origin of car registrartion SB 117. --  Registration is County Council of Argyll, Scotland. but no dating data available pre 1929; likely cca 1905/6. The car is Scottish made in Paisley (Glasgow). The vehicle is a cca 1905 Arrol Johnston 12HP Dogcart. The six seater body has two seats in front of the driver facing forward, two for driver and passenger facing forward behind the steering wheel,  and two facing backwards.

1905 Arrol Johnston 12HP Dogcart

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 MMC 10HP Tonneau
Interesting period photo sent in to Rootschat by David Lane (UK) asking for repair and tidy-up of the photo. Repair and superb hand colouring by Iria. Photo of Grandfather and family in Brigg, Lincolnshire.--  Great colourising by Iria ! Registration seems to be R 1412 which is Derby County Council but no dating data available pre 1921.  This car was made in Coventry by the Motor Manufacturing Co and is a cca 1903 MMC 10HP Tonneau. Talks to merge with Daimler, but was liquidated in 1904.

1903 MMC 10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Ford Model T Touring Special
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  Interesting photo because it is of a much modified standard car altered to be just  like a standard car. Main ID features are the transverse front spring, curved radiator and non-demountable wheels. This dates original vehicle to a cca 1919 Ford Model T Touring. It has no louvres, and scuttle mounted petrol tank.

1919 Ford Model T Touring Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Ford Model T Pick-up
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  Following on from the above photo, this is a commercial version of the same vehicle which had the same front and radiator. This is also a cca 1919 Ford Model T, but is a Pick-up. Various versions of commercials were made including depot hacks and tankers,  and a version made for the Military. It has number on  skirt?

1919 Ford Model T Pick-up

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Brasier 11'15 Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a Danish film "Mor Bag Rattet", made in 1965 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Taken from novel 'Mum behind the wheel' and involving a trotting horse and a veteran car!  --  Suggestions on the IMCDB site that it might be a Mors or Minerva or Clement Talbot.  Right country from the fashion of the curvy bonnet but wrong make. Manufactured in Paris, this is a cca 1909 Brasier 11'15 Tourer, a post Richard Brasier and pre Chaigneau Brasier.

1909 Brasier 11'15 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Perhaps 1921 Earl Model 40 Touring
On Help Page 53  is shown a cca 1920s American Tourer photo of which was sent to us by
Dan Gillitzer (USA) taken in USA, which he is trying to identify. It may be a 1920 Studebaker. --  Much discussion including our friends at the AACA who were relatively sure it is not a Studebaker. Various names have been forward including Buick, Wescott and Commonwealth. We now have a suggestion from Varun Coutinho that it is a cca 1921 Earl Model 40 Touring. There are indeed similarities!

Perhaps 1921 Earl Model 40 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Chenard Walcker Fiacre de Paris
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  "New Paris - Lady Drivers - Woman of the World".  Another stock photo shows same lady with a Chauffer!!  Suggestion Taxi but no Taxameter is visible, nor is the Lady dressed as a Chaffeuse. Dimples to sides of rad and bolts on face of rad midway down suggest this is cca 1906 Chenard & Walcker 14CV Fiacre de Paris.

1906 Chenard Walcker Fiacre de Paris

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1949 Northrop YB-49 Bomber 
Intriguing unnamed photo found for sale on Ebay and requiring identification. No other information was available.. -- Aircraft are not our remit but this photo looked 'touched-up' so wondered if real? Quite genuine, a 1949 Northrop YB-49 Flying Wing Turbojet Bomber prototype. Two were built. One crashed killing pilots whose names are used for Forbes and Edwards Airbases in US.  Second cought fire. Both had rumours of possibe industrial sabotage. Resulted in the B2 Stealth.

1949 Northrop YB-49 Bomber 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED Early 1900s Town Car 
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified. --  This one remains unidentified despite investigation by our experts. It seems to have a lot in common with the bigger French c1904 Mors Landaulette Town Car at Louwman Museum in Holland but our Ariejan Bos does not think it is one as it is propshaft drive. Also unlikely are Napier or Panhard & Levassor.

UNIDENTIFIED Early 1900s Town Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED Electric Town Car
Similar vehicle found surfing through the internet in attempting to identify the above vehicle, which has also not yet been identified. -- ... And also remains unidentified despite investigation. This vehicle would appear to be electric and is one of many 'Early 1900s Electric Town Cars' made in period, started large and grew smaller! Electric cars were popular as Taxis for a while. Our Ariejan Bos thought perhaps a Krieger, but unlikely. Lohner had wheel motors, Riker was generally rear engine.

 UNIDENTIFIED Electric Town Car
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