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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 57 below relates to enquiries received
during
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1902
Panhard & Levassor Tonneau
A photo of a veteran car
received from Nicholas Woollett (UK)
who took the image from a large picture behind the counter in St
Michael's charity shop in Bexhill. Can we identify this vehicle,
maybe a Darracq?
-- Not a
Darracq but it is French and also made near Paris. Very noticeable
pointer to the manufacturer is the offset crank. To define the model,
there is no discernable lip to the bonnet above the matrix, and tierod
is forward of axle. This is a cca
1902 Panhard & Levassor 16hp Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1902 Gladiator Tonneau
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular
contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).
This seems a scan of photo of first car in
Vila Real, a town in the north of Portugal best known for earliest Portuguese
motor racing. -- Photo is too poor quality to make out any detail. We
need photos at BEST RESOLUTION possible. However, our John Warburton and
an owner colleague advised this is a cca1902 Gladiator Rear Entrance
Tonneau,6.5HP single cylinder engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
Rover 8HP Two-Seater
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in the British TV comedy series 'Allo 'Allo which ran
from 1982 to 1992, where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. The series is about a Cafe in France during the Second World
War. --
As this series is set in France and as Rene is driving the car, one
would think it ought to be French. Actually it is not. It is a British
cca 1904 Rover 8HP Two-Seater. It differs fundamentally from the
later 6hp by having no front dumbirons.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Star 14HP Surrey
A photo of a couple of cars
received from Nigel Williams (UK)
who advises he is doing ancestry research and has a mystery photograph
of his grandfather standing by a MORS car, and with another car parked
next door. Can we tell the make, model and when made.
-- I thought
perhaps Mercedes but our Star expert John Warburton advises the white
car on left is a cca
1906 Star Surrey, probably the
14hp. Body type
used for collecting guests from station or taking to grouse
moors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906 Mors 24'32 Surrey
A photo of a couple of cars received from
Nigel Williams (UK)
who advises he is doing ancestry research and has a mystery photograph
of his grandfather standing by a MORS car. Can we tell the model and
when made, and from the registration whether the photo is in London or
Austria! -- Numberplate
is London CC early 06. The Mors badge is pre big lettered Mors
logo. This is a cca
1905/6 Mors 24-32h Surrey. Body type
used for collecting guests from station or taking to grouse
moors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
Isotta Fraschini Type FE
Another request for identification of vehicles received from our regular
contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).
This one was a link to a
film.
He says "this is documenting
one of the first automobile races in Portugal, in Hippodrome D.
Amélia. I am investigating the race itself, where and when it happened
? Can you help with the make of cars? --Our
contact Craig Gillingham in Australia suggests this is a cca 1908 Isotta
Fraschini Type FE, - who gained much fame through racing including
Coppa Florio.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
Napier Limousine
A couple of photos
received from Anne Bunyan (UK)
who advises that her grandfather was Chauffeur to the Earl of
Buckinghamshire, England around 1906 - 1911. Have we any idea what the
car is he is driving. -- The
registration of the car was Buckinghamshire CC issue of 1903, which is
obviously not the date of the car, so is a retained 'cherished number'
kept by the owner. The car is a cca 1908 Napier
Limousine, probably the
40HP six, made in Acton London. Became major aircraft engine maker.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909
Georges Roy & 1904 Mercedes
Another request for identification of vehicles received from our regular
contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).
This one was a link to a
film.
He says "this is documenting
one of the first automobile races in Portugal, in Hippodrome D.
Amélia. I am investigating the race itself, where and when it happened
? Can you help with the make of cars? -- This
screen-grab shows (left) a cca 1909 Georges Roy 12 HP Touring Sport
Torpedo (French) and a cca 1904 Mercedes
Sport Touring 40'45 HP (German).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Abbott-Detroit 45-5 Roadster
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a 1914 American silent film comedy "Mickey" where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. The film is about a young woman Mickey bought up in a mining
environment going to New York. --
Bit of research advised this was the biggest grossing film of 1918 at
$8M. This is an American car made in Detroit, Michigan and the only
model with the distinctive Vee radiator. This is a cca 1913
Abbott-Detroit 45-50 Battleship Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Adler & 1913 Gregoire
Another request for identification of vehicles
received from our regular
contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).
This one was a link to a
film.
He says "this is documenting
one of the first automobile races in Portugal, in Hippodrome D.
Amélia. I am investigating the race itself, where and when it happened
? Can you help with the make of cars? -- This
screen-grab shows a cca 1913 Adler 7'17 Doppelphaeton (German) and
a cca 1913 Gregoire 13'18 Voiture de Sport
(French). Not sure of white car!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Lloyd Ambulance
Another request for identification of a vehicles received from our regular
contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).
Photo is of a Red Cross ambulance taken in "Terreiro do
Paço", the center Lisbon in 1916. Portugal had just entered the
War and perhaps it was destined for the war front. It seems an adapted vehicle.
-- We
have looked at many makes and many nationalities, and had no immediate
answer. It was our contributor Ariejan Bos who
advised that this is a cca
1914 Lloyd.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Calthorpe 10HP Tourer
A photo of an unusual car
received from Rasmus Dahl-Sorensen, Roskilde (Denmark)
taken on June 14, 1921 in Nykoebing Sjaelland in Denmark. Photo is of
Great Grandfather Carl Christian Larsen, wife Ingrid Louise and two of
their children, rear left being Niels Lund. --
Despite photo being dated 1921, the car has
the pre-war bodywork and still has gas lighting, so is very likely
pre-war. Interestingly the car is British made in Birmingham, being a
cca 1914 Calthorpe 10'4 HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Studebaker Model 15 Touring
Photo
received from Patrick Kay of WagScreen Films (UK)
who are making a historical film about Thimbleby War Memorial and the
people connected, including the WW1 soldier in the photo. Could we help
with the make of the car. --
Not very helpful photo but car is American.
We thought Buick as windscreen is very tall. No door handles/hinges. Hand rail behind seat. Tall
doors with skirt below. Our external contributor Ariejan Bos
advised that this is a ca 1915 Studebaker Series 15
Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1919 Svania-Vabis Charabanc
Another lovely photo submitted to the AACA
and posted by Leif Holmberg (Sweden)
asking for ID. Photo features a tourist bus run by Herm. Moller of
Kobenhavn. --
Kobenhavn is Copenhagen in Denmark. Roundish shape
of rad and small inspection plate are typical of a cca
WW1 Scandia-Vabis. Chain drive and
solid tyres are pre-war/just post-war features. This is probably an
updated truck with a charabanc body and pneumatics on front. The photo
and fashions are much later 1920s.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923 Jowett Long Four Tourer
A tiny photo
received from Paul Warren, Derbyshire (UK)
who got us from the Society of Genealogists. Maternal great
grandfather Frederick Smith is driving, butcher in Potton, Beds.
Wife Sarah accompanies him in the front and his eldest daughter,
Lilian is in the back. Sarah died March 1951. but the photo pre dates
this by a while. Austin? -- Difficult
to say exactly when the photo was taken due to poor quality, but the car
with bulk mounted headlights is a cca
1923 Jowttl Long Four Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1925 Horch Tulip-bodied Phaeton
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. Do we have any idea what
it is? A tourer from the 1920s probably German although it's RHD. --
Unhelpful photo. RHD draws us to it being possibly Slovak Nesselsdorfer
S/T/U (Tatra) as Czechoslovakia was RHD, but more likely it is a German
cca
1925 Horch Tulip-bodied Phaeton. Horch
registered 'Audi' name in 1910. Similar to car
on HP23..
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Morris 11.9 Cowley Tourer
Photo
received from Sue Stevens (UK)
who was hoping that we may be able to identify the car in the
attached photograph. She thinks the photo is post-1929 but would love to
know what car this family drove in order to enjoy their picnic! --
Not a very clear photo, small and blurry,
but relatively easy to identify that it is a Bullnose Morris; not so
easy on the model and year. Small rad and petrol can on the running
board helped Chas Moody to identify it as cca
1926 Morris 11.9 Cowley Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Brennabor Limousine
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. Do we have any idea what
it is? Possibly an American car because of the wide track, but the hood
ornament is concealed. --
Many features are European; semaphore indicators and curved headlamps
supports with thin linking bar. Hump on the bonnet behind the radiator
cap is an indicator of a cca 1928 Brennabor
Limousine, possibly the ASL.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Packard 526 Sedan
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. Do we have any idea what
it is? "Packard" style radiator with a sign reading "Rekord".
Could be a big Opel, definitely not a Hanomag. --
'Packard' style rad, mainly because it is a Packard ! Seven letter logo
when enlarged is definitely Packard and this style of logo & car
details seems to match a cca 1928 Packard 526 Four Door Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Hudson Sport Phaeton
A photo of an interesting car
received from Eugenio Santos (Portugal)
asking if we can advise where the car is now; Hudson Sport Phaeton
taken on the Island of Madeira, Portugal, in 1935. -- The
enquiry is too specialised for us. Our knowledge base relates mainly to
identification of veteran and vintage vehicles, but regretfully
not in detail relative to a specific car. He needs to contact the
car club which caters for that make, and/or general car
club in the country where it was last known.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930
Triumph Super Seven Tourer
A photo of an interesting car
received from Eugenio Santos (Portugal)
asking for identification. Registration plate M-1160 (later
MD-15-79) was from the year 1930. Photo was taken in Funchal, capital of
Madeira island, Portugal. -- The
car is unusual in as much as it is British made. Madeira was a British
Crown Colony in the 1800s, and the British have rather liked the
fortified Madeira wine. The car is a cca
1920 Triumph Super Seven Tourer with
very unusual filled wings and spring surrounds.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1931
Armstrong Siddeley 15HP
A scan from a book received from Brian
Reid, Melbourne (Australia) of
a car owned by his great uncle. Registration seems Essex UK. Strange rad
cap.
-- Reg is
incomplete as is either 1907 and a "cherished plate", or fist
letter is hidden. Either is not much help. The car is a cca 1931
Armstrong Siddeley coach-built saloon, body certainly by Burlington and
engine probably 15HP, all as confirmed by our A-S specialist Simon
Pearce. The rad cap is an impressive
largish Sphinx, the A-S Mascot.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Frazer Nash Falcon Sports
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a 1985 British film drama "Dance with a Starnger" where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. The film is about a the last woman to be hanged for murder
in Britain in the 1950s. --
Quite a specialised car built by a company started by Capitain Archibald
Frazer-Nash
in 1922 who made high performance sports-racing cars incorporating
unique multi-chain transmission. Became UK importers
of BMW 1934 and Porsche 1956.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1938
Autovia Mulliner Limousine
Not a request for identification because we
know what it is, but as it is so very unusual it may help others when
searching. --
Spotted at a Riley Register run to
Riverhill House in Kent. This is a London CC August 1938 registered
Autovia
V8 Mulliner Limousine. Made by separate
company of which Victor Riley was a director, lasting 1936-38, and going
into the receivership with the rest of Riley. Designed to compete with
Rolls Royce, only about 35 were made; light sports and
limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1966
Glas 1700 GT Coupe
Another lovely photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta (Romania). This
one is from elsewhere but what is it? --
Not that easy. German made in
Dingolfing by an 1883 agricultural implements manufacturer, who
went on to make a scooter called the Gogo in 1951. They turned to
cars by building 280,000 Gogomobil minicars. This is their lovely
Frua cca1966
Glas 1700 GT Coupe. Company
bought by BMW, who continued to badge the
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