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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Possibly 1905 Darracq 12HP Tonneau
Another lovely photo received from Nigel Stemson
(New Zealand)
taken in New Zealand but there is no background story to the photo. --
Quite a difficult photo to identify
because mainly bodywork visible and bodies would have been made by
external coachwork companies. I thought perhaps Scottish Argyll but our
Ariejan Bos thinks a cca
1905 Darracq Tonneau, possibly 12 hp.
All elements tell him car could be attributed to French Darracq,
although short radiator filling pipe is not very common.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Riley 9Hp Two-Seat Tourer
Lovely photo received from Nigel Stemson (New
Zealand?) of his great uncle's car in
Christchurch. Curious how short the front is, where is the engine, or
is it electric? -- Not
electric but petrol and the engine is under the driver's seat. The
whole of the rear body pivots at the far back to reveal a water cooled
1034cc V-Twin engine connected to the front rad. Patented detachable
wheels. Company started with bicycles, then tri-cars, quads. Cars 1905.
This is
cca 1907 Riley 9Hp Tourer up to
1911.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1908 Straker Squire Runabout
Continuing the theme of poorish photos
from Mike Statham of
Insole
Research Group (UK)
of car owned by Eric Insole outside Brown's Hotel in Albermarle Street
c1907. Darracq? -- Not
Darracq, but a British car. We have much repaired photo and can advise
from the raised radiator header tank above bonnet line that this is a Starker
Squire. It is fitted with the rakish
Runabout body. Dating is complicated by some sources saying it was
introduced 1908 but others as 15HP Two seater in 1910.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1910
Argyll Landaulette
Puzzling period photo received from
Trevor Howard (UK) of
a car pictured outside the East Lodge of the Surrey Lunatic Asylum (aka
Brookwood Hospital), Knaphill, Surrey. The registration is B, P or R
6649. The photo is a postcard postmarked
June 1913 so must be earlier than that. --
Vehicle shape suggests c07'09 so would be
P for Surrey c1910 as B&R are nearer 20s. Car is Scottish, built in
Alexandria and is a cca
1910 Argyll Landaulette. The 15HP was
available for +/-3 years.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Probably c1914 Opel 5'14PS Tourer
Puzzling enquiry received from Pär
Sörliden (Sweden) about
a model identification of an Opel at a Car Museum in Sweden from around
1912. Museum says that the car is a 1912 Opel 5/12 PS. Previous
owner thought it was a 4/8 PS. Another Swedish vintage car enthusiast
thinks it is a 1912 Opel 9/25 PS. Do we have any Opel experts who can
say for sure? -- Regretfully
we do not have any wise sages on Opel but we think this is a cca 1914
Opel 5'14, 1.4L Puppchen, or the later 1.5L 14.5.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1920s Glover Steam Truck
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was intrigued by this photo
featured on facebook. Photo is labeled 'Glover steam truck Eagle works
Warwick England.1920s' --
William Glover made a
'lorrie' in
Warwick 1899. 1906 made 2 & 3HP oil/petrol
engines, and vans, wagons and carts, not trucks? Became Eagle Engineering 1907,
1937 trailer and body builders. 1972 acquired by Hestair who also owned
Dennis Bros. Denis Eagle is currently 2nd largest world dustcart maker!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1922
Lancia Charabanc
Puzzling period photo received from
Trevor Howard (UK) of
a vehicle pictured outside of the Woking Electric Supply
Company, Woking, Surrey. -- Regretfully
the registration is not visible, so not an aid in precise dating. The
vehicle is a charabanc, very popular in-period for communal works
outings. This one is distinctly Italian, manufactured in Turin and sold
in the UK by WL Stewart, Piccadilly. This one is cca
1922 Lancia Charabanc, small one so
probably on the Lancia Kappa Chassis.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924 Delage D1 Coupe Chauffeur
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2017 French film "Au
revoir là-haut (See You Up There) being investigated by IMCDB. Film
about two French disfigured soldiers due WW1 trying a con to make a
fortune with war victims' corpses. -- Events
are supposed to be taking place end of WW1 so +/-1919. Not seen film
but it has some strangely dated vehicles. This one was not made until
at least 5 years after the events and is a French car made in
Paris, which is a cca
1924 Delage D1 Coupe Chauffeur.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Albion PM28 Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this Corcorans bus please.
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Registration WW 2728 is West
Riding of Yorkshire. John Stringer advises is a cca
1927 Albion PM28 new June 1927 to
Corcoran Bros of Tadcaster. The company was taken over by the West
Yorkshire Road Car Co 1933 and the Albion became their fleet number
677. It was eventually acquired for preservation & survives today
as chassis only.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928 Leyland Lioness Front Entrance
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this bus maked Yorkphotographed wit a couple of
Morrises? -- Registration
TN 8808 is Newcastle on Tyne CBC late 1928. The bus is a rather
attractive Leyland Lioness which were built 1926 to 1934.
Development of the Lion, specifically designed for bus use with
Pneumatic tyres, this is cca
1928 Leyland Lioness Front Entrance Single-decker,
available in 24-36 seats.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1928 Triumph Super Seven Saloon
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) was puzzled by this photo labeled
Austin 7 at Opononi. Is the car a Triumph Super Seven?--
Grainy small
photo checked with our Austin expert John Caddy who noted suicide door
and that size of the rear side window looks larger than the almost
square ones of the A7. Diligent searching determined that later Triumphs
had normal doors and earlier cca
1928 Triumph Super Seven with fabric
bodies had suicides and big windows.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Poss
c1927 Lagonda Weymann Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this car next to bus marked to Dunster?"
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difficult photo to identify as from the back and with a very unusual
body which seems to be of the fabric type and pointed upturned mudguard.
We circulated this photo amongst our experts without much success.
However, our John Warburton suggested this could be a cca 1930
Langonda 2 litre Weymann Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
c 1927 Armstrong Siddeley
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this car in the wilds of Yorkshire?"
-- Very
blurry photo of a moving car without a registration visible so
difficult to identify and date. However a couple of our experts feel
this is a cca
1927 Armstrong Siddeley, possibly the
4'14 coachbuilt saloon. Front mudguard, headlights, no louvres and disc
wheels match but radiator appears to lean bit backwards. Perhaps an
optical illusion?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1929 Morris Cowley Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID these two cars photographed with York bus? --
Registration VB is Croydon, late 1929. The
one behinds looks like YO London, cca 1926. Our Chas moody advises the
front one is a cca
1929 Morris Cowley Saloon, lights on
cross bar. The one behind is an early Flatnose Cowley tourer
two-piece mudguards, headlamps on stalks, two-piece windscreen & no
bumpers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca 1929 AEC Relainace 660 Bus
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this trio of busses?" --
Registration of the bus on the right seems EF which is West Hartlepool
County Borough Council but numbers are not clear so not helpful in
dating. John Stringer advises that the bus on the right is an AEC
Reliance 660 with a registration
dating also from around 1928-30, - operator not identified. These were
made 1928-1931. Unsure location.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca 1929 Leyland Tiger Buses
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " " Can
you please help ID this trio of busses?" --
Registration of centre bus seems CK which
is Preston CBC but numbers are not clear so not helpful in
dating. John Stringer advises that the bus in the centre and one
on the left are a pair of Leyland
Tiger TS1/TS2 or TS3 models, dating
from around 1928 - 1930. The busses belonged to a large fleet
owned by Ribble Motor Services of Preston.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1929 Tilling-Stevens B10A2 Bus
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this bus markd Beverley-Driffield? --
Registration KH 7975 is Kingston-o-H 1929.
Bus is a cca
1929 Tilling-Stevens B10A2 with the
Tilling 32-seat rear entrance body. John Stringer advises 142 in fleet
of East Yorkshire Motor Services of Hull. It was sold in 1937, passing
to a showman who used it until 1949. It is seen passing through the
'North Bar Gate' at Beverley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1931 Guy Conquest Half-Cab Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this bus marked to Dunster?" --
Registration of the bus seems YD 114 which would have been Somerset CC
early 1931. Couple of our experts agree this is a cca 1931 Guy Half-Cab
Coach. This one seems to be a Guy
Conquest FC with 26 seater body by Hoyal, new 6/30 to Western National
Omnibus Co, 3037, bought specially for steepest UK 1:4, 25% Porlock
Hill, Somerset.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933
Jowett 7HP Kestrel Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to
us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can
you please help ID this saloon please.. Jowett??"
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Registration of the car is KY 5594 which is Bradford CBC late 1933. The
car is indeed a Jowett. Jowetts were made in Bradford from 1906 to
1954, starting with bicycles; cars in 1906. This is a cca 1933
Jowett Long 7HP with a coachbuilt
Kestrel Saloon body introduced in 1933. Fitted with 7hp
horizontally opposed 2-cylinder 907cc engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1934 Renault TN4F Bus
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2017 French film "Au revoir
là-haut (See You Up There) being investigated by IMCDB. Film about two
French disfigured soldiers due WW1 trying a con to make a fortune with
war victims' corpses. -- Events
are supposed to be taking place end of WW1 so +/-1919. Not seen film
but it has some strangely dated vehicles. This one was not made until
at least 15 years after the events and is a French bus which became
much used in Paris, a cca
1934 Renault TN4F.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1936 Renault TN4H Bus
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1964 French film "Un gosse
de la butte" being investigated by IMCDB. Film about a young boy,
an aging woman and her sporting black lover, and jelous neighbour;
and how racism and attitudes are overcome. -- The
bus is from the TN series of Renault busses made from 1931 to 1971 and
which became the symbol of Paris busses. This one has no nose and has corrugated
sides to the cab, so is a cca
1936 Renault TN4 H. Many requisitioned
for use WW2.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1948 Carter Electric Invalid Carriage
Fascinating photo received from Christine
Jordan (UK) saying
"I wonder if you could identify this car for me - the
make/model and year? This is Ethel Hartland, Gloucester's first JP in
the 1930s and may have been a Suffragette! -- Registration
is Gloucester CBC. Luxe 1948
Carter Electric Invalid Carriage, made
in Portland Pl, London. Customers included Lady Astor and King George
V. 36-volt electric motor, 0.75HP, powered by two 18-volt lead acid
batteries, 40 miles at 8 mph. Cost at time £300.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1955 Fiat 1100'103 Berlina Tipo B
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from
Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old
photos. 'Can you identify this car and country of the photo from the
number plate? " --
Same country as the Mercedes photo,
Austria. Mercedes W for Wien, Vienna, and N for Niederosterreich,
Lower Austria, Neusiedler lake. Plates issues 1947 to 1989; 1-2
letters and 3.3 numbers. Three big horisontal radiator slats; the car
in question is a
cca 1955 Fiat 1100'103 Berlina Tipo B, de
luxe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1957 Mercedes-Benz W121 190 Saloon
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from
Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old
photos. 'Can you identify this model of Mercedes taken in Vienna in May
1958. --
Development of the 180, and the W120 in 1953 and W121 in 1956, having a
'ponton' enveloping body, looking alike and difficult to differentiate.
Has chrome under the window so earliest this could be is a
cca 1957 Mercedes-Benz W121B 190 Saloon.
These were made between 1956 and 1959, 1897cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1957 Chevrolet Bel Air Sedan
Interesting (UK)
Birthday Card showing just the headlamp
and override of a car with a message of "A Genuine Classic".
No mention on the card of what the car was, so request made to identify
it. -- Obviously
American with 'Dagmar' 1950s bumper extensions initially mimicking WW2
artillery shells, and later got rubber tips. Name 'Dagmar 'came from the
notable attributes of Virginia Ruth Egnor: 'Dagmar - the most photogenic show girl
on TV.' Car is a cca1957
Chevrolet Bel Air Sedan.
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