|
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE: cca
1901 Begot & Cail
Photos received from Emmanuel Abit,
(France) who has a very
unusual car. It is a cca 1901 Begot et
Cail, serial number 135 with a De Dion Bouton engine 4442. He asked if we could get more information on this
actual car and
the make. The car was made by Begot et Mazurie, Reims, France
who were general engineers making voiturettes. In 1901
two light cars appeared under the name Begot et Cail. One had a 5hp
single cylinder De Dion engine, and the other a 7hp V-twin of their own
make.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1904 Humberette
This is one of three photos received from David Shearer (UK)
about his Great Grandfather Thomas
Smith (1856 - 1950) from Kidderminster, an engineer, cycle and
motorcycle maker. This is a cca 1904
Humberette having a single spoke steering wheel. Registration
ED started in Dec. 1903, so is one of the earliest registered, probably
in 1904/5. Photo is later because the unusual body and the updated doors
and windscreen.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1905 2.75HP Special
One of a number of photos received from David Shearer
(UK)
researching his Great Grandfather Thomas
Smith. On this one we had the assistance from the veteran motorcycle
expert Geoff Morris who traced the registration to an Ernest Cecil
Hallam of Atherstone. The date of registration was March 1905 and make
was given as 2 3/4
HP. As no makers name is mentioned, this apparently
suggests that the motorcycle was a one-off or a prototype. Four further
owners to 1914.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1906 Belsize V564
Nice photo received from Paul Duffy (UK)
who has been researching his family tree and discovered the
picture. His family folklore suggests this vehicle was the first in
Penrith. A manufacturer would be good, info on the Reg. plate would be
fantastic! Our Belsize owner Tim Harding recognised the car as a Belsize
V564 with the distinctive radiator which they had for just a
few years. Registration, assuming it is U 564, (no other letter before)
is from Leeds and from mid to late 1906, not 1905.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1906 Globe
Photo of an unusual car received from Peter
Strutt (UK) being
driven by his great-grandfather, William Taylor, the coachman to
the Duke of Portland's agent, who ran the Welbeck Estate office in
Mansfield Woodhouse, Notts. We are pretty sure that this is a cca
1906 Globe as manufactured by Hitchon Gear & Automobile
Co, Accrington, Lancashire (1904/7). Only about 12 such cars made. Not
connected with the Globe mentioned earlier on this Help Page, or the US
Globe car.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1912 Humber 11HP
One of a number of photos received from
Robin Rigby (UK) showing
a series of cars owned by his Grandfather Dr Francis Rigby, a doctor in
Preston, Lancashire. This one is of 1912
Humber 11 HP with
a number-plate indicating Preston in mid 1912. Grandfather appears to
have been quite an important man also being responsible for the local
workhouse and isolation hospital. He qualified as MB ChB in 1901 and
first went to sea doctoring on RMS Plassey, doing the 'slow boat to
China' and back.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Bristol Charabanc
Photo of a charabanc outing received from
Diana Hunt (UK)
which she found amongst her mother's belongings. Photo, possibly taken
in Startford-u-A, was titled 'Hereford Run' but no other information.
Our Tim Harding identified it as a cca 1913/14
Bristol C50 Charabanc
made by the Bristol Tramways & Carriage Company. During
WW1 they made fighter planes for the related Bristol Aeroplane Company.
Registration could be FH, so the bus would have been registered by
Gloucester CBC.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1914 Opel Grand Prix
Photo of a book received from Dominic Pinto
from London who is helping a colleague in the (USA).
His friend has a book whose front cover has
a picture of a car apparently not mentioned elsewhere in the book. The
photo is of a 1914
Opel 90 HP Grand Prix car. The car
appears to have survived and on this photo is wearing some some modern
wings, seemingly knock-on wheels and modern wider tyres. The numberplate
suggests the car was registered in the Republic of Ireland.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1915 Saxon Model 14
Photo received from Dan Richards (UK)
found while helping to clear a late neigbour's loft.
Interested in identifying the car. This is a cca
1915 Saxon Model 14 manufactured by the Saxon Motor Co
of Detroit Michigan. The condition of the car appears 'well used' so it
is possible that the picture may have been taken during the twenties.
Number plate is covered so cannot date registration. Saxons became the
tenth largest producer of cars in the US. This is a right hand
drive UK model.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1915 Globe Cyclecar
Unusual photo received from Avril Pedley
from Leeds (UK)
of her grandmother sitting in a what appears to be a cyclecar. Further
investigation suggests this is a cca 1915
Globe Cyclecar. These were designed by
EH Forster, made by in France by F. Terrier et Cie (Sphinx-Globe), and
in England by sanitary engineers, Tuke & Bell Ltd. Anzani or Aster
single-cylinder engines or J.A.P. 2-cylinder engines were used, and the
cars had belt or chain drive. Later briefly built as 'Forster'
cars.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1915 Swift
Further photos from Robin Rigby
(UK) showing
a
series of cars owned by his
Grandfather in the period 1915 to 1933, when he died. The car shown right is a
cca
1914 Swift. which was the first car. The
second seems to be the Humber (below), followed by a cca
1915 Renault, probably a 20HP Sports
two seater, which in the photo is being driven by their Chauffeur
(sports?). Somewhere into the picture also comes a cca
1914 Renault Tourer. Finally,
there was a lovely cca
1929 AC Six.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1917 Dodge Tourer
Photo received from Anne Duncan (UK)
of her maternal grandmother listed as a chauffeuse on her
marriage certificate. The photo may have been taken in Edinburgh. The
car in the photo is a cca
1917 Dodge Tourer, identified by not having a bar between the
headlamps and not having a bumper. Regretfully the numberplate is hidden
so this cannot give us either place or date of registration. The crest
on the rear door, and the emblem on the radiator cap are not
decipherable. AA badge ?
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1920 Tamplin Cyclecar
Interesting photo received from Chris Twigg (UK)
showing great-great-grandfather Theophilus Twigg and
great-grandfather Samuel Twigg sitting in what could have been the very
first car in Wombwell, a small town near Barnsley. The vehicle is
a 1920 Tamplin
Cyclecar made in Staines and carries a Middlesex
registration. Tamplins were made from 1919 to 1927 and were a very
successful UK cyclecar makers with 1,250 produced. Early cars had tandem
seating and JAP or Blackburn engine.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1923 Morgan GP
Old Postcard of the Lledr Valley in the
northwest corner of Wales received from David Hastings (UK)
showing a three wheeler car off the road on the left. He had just found
the card and wandered what was the make of the car, which model
and when was it built. We can advise that it is a cca 1923
Morgan GP or perhaps 'Sporting'. Little
difficult to say due low resolution. The Grand Prix Morgan was built
between 1913 and 1926 following their win at the Cyclecar Grand Prix in
Amiens.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Studebaker Big Six
Photo received from Steve Canham
(Hawaii)
of his father and aunt, now 90, in a car in Southern California. Aunt
said family had Packards. This is not one and took absolute ages to
identify. Many American cars had multi section complex front bumpers,
seemingly a proprietary item with exactly the same small logo plates on
each side. This helps to confuse. Contenders included the Wills Sainte
Claire, but the car on the photo is a cca
1923/4 Studebaker Big Six Tourer,
fitted with a ' winter hardtop '.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1925 Armstrong Siddeley 14/4
Photo received from Roy Keeling (UK)
of a car photographed in The Market Square in the village of
Longnor in Staffordshire. Wanted to know make and year, and whether it
is a car or van. It is an Armstrong
Siddeley 14/4 Mk2 'Cotswold' Tourer registered in Wiltshire in
approx April 1925. This of course does not date the photo. The man in
the photo with the basket may have nothing to do with the car. The 14/4
was a relatively upmarket vehicle unlikely to have been used for
'deliveries'.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1927/9 Singer Senior
Three fascinating photos received from Ken McLeod (UK)
found in an album at a local antique fair depicting a family’s
adventures in Australia. The album appears put together by a couple
named Will and Em sent in 1930 to Dolly and Bess who visited them. The
album has twelve photographs with short stories and shows clearly how
Australia looked back in the late 1920s. Our Singer man Simon Bishop
thinks it is a cca 1929
Singer Senior two
Seater. Photos suggest February 1927.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1935 Jowett Bradford
Looks like a 'phone photo' received from Aron Page (Australia)
advising he has Jowett basket case and needs model and year. Only
details he has is that it is Model CB, Chassis No D8 CB 14378, Body No
D8CB 979 5AE. To us non-Jowett experts, it looks like the front of a Bradford
van. We contacted the pressofficerlibrarian@jowett.org
who confirmed it is a Jowett and that the contact has been passed
to their branch in Australia. He is visiting Australia soon so hopes to
call in and confirm.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1939 Mochet Velocar
Our member Michel Gosset found amongst his
father’s things a roll of early 1940’s exposed but undeveloped film
which was taken on 26th of August in 1944, the day that Paris was
liberated. One of the photos showed an early De Dion Bouton and a
Simca and in the foreground a part of a cycle-car type of machine, which
intrigued. Investigations revealed that it was a cca 1939 Mochet
Velocar,
a real 'cyclecar' which required hard human pedaling to achieve motion.
See sub-page for info.
|
|
|
IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Not
a VolksWagen but a Mercedes
This is one of a number of photos received from Peter Daws (UK)
which we are currently investigating. This
photo was taken on a family holiday in mid 1930s in what appears to be Germany.
Photo is from a series of German cars swinging out from being
photographed from the central reservation (!) This photo took some
investigation because it looked like an early Volkswagen. Interesting in
the evolution of the 'peoples car'. It is in fact a cca 1935
Mercedes 170H, rear engined, water
cooled.
|
|
|
LOCATING A HISTORIC VEHICLE: Prime
Minister
Tony Blair's Rock Van
We were contacted by a TV Production
Company who were going to make a programme about Prime Minister Tony
Blair's pre-university period when he was heavily into trying to become
a rock promoter-star. During this period he purchased a Thames
van to move the group Jaded round gigs.
TV people were trying to find if the van was still around so they could
use it in the programme. Regretfully we could not help and eventually a
similar white van was used in the programme on Channel 4.
|
|
|
VALUATION AND DATING: cca
1949 Monet & Goyon
Photo received from Martin
Gunnarsson from London (UK) asking for an approximate valuation and information
on how to register it in the UK. It had been dry stored in France for
the past 40 years. He noted that 1929 is stamped on crankcase but our motorcycle
expert Geoff Morris suggests earliest it being is a cca 1949 Monet & Goyon.
Being a utility machine, the value is approx £600-900. He will need
accurate dating and to contact local Vehicle
Registration Authority to get it registered.
|
|
|
NEEDS URGENTLY TO BE SAVED: 1959
Austin 152 Motorhome
Photo received from Steve (USA) of
a 1959
Austin 152 Motorhome 90%
complete, but needs restoration. He was told it is the only one in the
United States and is right hand drive. He wanted to know if it is worth restoring and if there are any parts available.
From the photo it looks in good condition and surely in the USA it must
be worth preserving if only for the rarity value! Suggested he contacts
the BMC J2/152 Register http://www.brmmbrmm.com/clientph/brmm4.nsf/clubpages/bmcj2
|
|
|
REQUEST FOR INFORMATION: Humfrey-Sandberg
Freewheel
Request from our Jowett expert Alan
Benewith for any information on the Humfrey-Sandberg freewheel that was
in use around 1928-1930. Any info, especially tachnical data, would be
welcome. Please email us.
|
Humfrey-Sandberg Freewheel
??
|
|
PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
|
|
| WEDDING
CARS
: Number of Emails asking
if any SVVS Members do weddings. Yes ! |
| Links to interesting sites: Click
on any hyperlink below to be taken direct to their site. |
Fascinating site on all things steam: http://stanleysteamers.com/
|
|
Identification of Mystery
Motors - Mystery Cars requiring Identification - Identification
of old Motorcars - Identification of old Car Photographs - Photos
requiring Identification -
Oldtimers from times gone by - Mystery Vehicles - Mystery
Motorcars -
Identify Classic Cars - Recognize Cars - Recognise Old Cars |
|
|
Click
on picture to enlarge
