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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:
SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,500 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1901 Fouillaron Voiture Legere
Old postcard found while resaeaching
on the internet, which required identification..
-- Probably the same car on
HP
87 and HP91
and it may have been a 'Photographer's Prop' car.
Ceirano, Fouillaron,
Corre and Renault all look remarkably similar. Thin twin louvres
with circular 'badge' and offset crank handle suggest from one of
Ariejan Bos photos that it is probably a cca 1901 Fouillaron
Voiture Legere. Fuillaroin and Corre
were directors making quadricycles, but also selling Renaults.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1907 Mass Torpedo
Couple of photos
from Gary Bartlett (Australia)
researching Professor Aldred Farrer Barker (Leeds UK) who built Textile Factories in Victoria from
1938-52. One of his books published 1911 shows this car. --
Unusual vehicle agreed by two experts as a
cca 1907 Mass
Torpedo, probably 8HP. Built in Paris by Leon Pierron but sold in UK by
Masser-Horniman of London as Mass Cars. These ranged 8,10,12,18 and
40HP with Gnome or Ballot engines. French connection with
Richardson Cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Germain 14'22 Landaulette Taxi
Very damaged photo (which we repaired) sent to us by Bruno Costers
(Belgioun)
asking if we can help with identification
and dating of the vehicle? --
Concentric circle rad with no louvers, so very limited choice. Our
Ariejan Bos thinks cca
1907 Germain 14'22 Landaulette Taxi in
use in Antwerp Belgium with registration number on the radiator core,
and cab number on back of bodywork. Top part of circular Taxameter visible behind windscreen,
' Libre' showing. Earlier Germain rads
were oval.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Metallugique 18HP Landaulette
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified,
so we have a go ! Not clear on
the origins of this one. --
Lovely detailed photo of a car manufactured by Société Anonyme L'Auto
Métallurgique, Belgium, 1898 -1928. Bonnet handle upper position, type
of body, and gas & oil lamps suggest a biggish car so it is
probably a cca 1908 Metallugique 18HP Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Isotta Fraschini Two-Seater
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified,
so we have a go ! This was an
old postcard. --
Lovely looking machine with long bonnet but without a spitzkuhler radiator,
looks and it is Italian. The badge is only just distinguishable to
have letter IF on it. This would be a cca
1909 Isotta Fraschini Two-Seater,
30'40 or 50'60. Founded 1899 and lasted 999.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Dux D12 18PS Doppel Phaeton
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle
posted on a Facebook page. Suggestion of a Dux but the style of
radiator seems wrong? --
Part of a short logo on radiator starts with letter 'D'. Car looks German
and suggestion of a Dux was probable. Dux origins were in 1889 making
the famous Polyphon juke box, Cars started 1904 with Polymobile
Gazelle. Name change to Dux, and this seems one, a cca
1911 Dux D12 18PS Doppel Phaeton,
Torpedo Style.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1914 la Buire Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle
posted on a Facebook page. --
'Ssemi-finals of the 1915
'Moustache of the Year ' competition' as one of our experts put it.
Difficult to see the car as so much obscured by the people but the
overall impression is of a French car. One of the thoughts was c1919 Le
Zebre or Philos, but our Ariejan Bos is sure this is a cca
1914 Le Buire, and thinks this
car was used as a 'photo prop' on a number of occasions.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914 Opel 20'45 PS Doppel-Phaeton
One of number of interesting photos
sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is collector of old photos. This one
is from a friend and shows a rally stop in the city of Odessa on the
Black Sea, probably 1910-14. --
Radiator is flat and notspitzkuhler,
the bonnet has quite a steep slope forward, the mudguards are flat but
with a lip, the wheels are wire, the headlamps are carbide, and the
sidelamps are tapered into the scuttle. This is probably a cca
1914 Opel 20'45PS Doppel-Phaeton .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914 Belsize 10'12 Tourer
Photo sent in by our Chas Moody
(UK)
showing a friend's father who had a car
dismantling business in Croydon but is pictured in the 1930's at
the smallholding he owned at Addington. --
Precise dating difficult as numberplate unreadable. First car of this
make was made in 1897 by Marshall & Co in Manchester based on the
Hurtu. Became very successful employing 1200 before WW1 as Marshall
Belsize; - Belsize Motors 1906. This is a cca
1914 Belsize 10'12 Tourer, 1950cc 4
cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1918 Waterloo Boy Model N Tractor
Another interesting photo received from Mike
Statham (UK)
part of the Research Team at Friends of Insole Court,
formerly Ely Court, Llandaff. Tractor believed to be
ploughing at Insole's Ty Fry farm, Pendoylan near Cardiff cWW1.
-- Main
identification is the transverse Kerosene tank above front wheels and
sideways rad. It is a cca
1918 Waterloo Boy Model N Tractor
built in Waterloo, Iowa. Company was purchased by John Deere in 1918,
who continued to make the Model N until 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1919 Mitchell Roadster
Some lovely photos received from Ian Berg
(Australia)
asking if we can identify make of cars sold
by Jas A Munro of Melbourne and Sydney in the early 1920. They were
agents Mors, Ruston Hornsby and Vermorel, - This
one is none of those, nor is it European. Made by a horse wagon maker
in Racine, Wisconsin, by company who started in cars in 1903.
Radiator header shape and covered dumbirons suggest this is a cca
1919 Mitchell Roadster, either D or E,
with probably Australian body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1921 Citroen Model B2 Torpedo
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified,
so we have a go ! This was an
old postcard. --
Lovely unknown scenery but the car is French, built in Paris. It is a four
seater with flattish bonnet line and three louvres, so this is the
second of Andre Citroen cars. The Citroen Company was founded in
1919, and this one is a cca
1921 Citroen Model B2 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922 Citroen B2 Torpedo
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified,
so we have a go ! Believed an old postcard.
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Car is French, external scuttle petrol cap, so cca
1922 Citroen B2 Torpedo, which later
had 'all-steel' bodies on the B10. The kiddie pedal car is an 'Irish
Mail' hand pump row cart, Two handles for propulsion and feet for
steering. Based on velocipede of early railways.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922 Swift 12HP Two-Seater
Some lovely photos received from Ian Berg
(Australia)
asking if we can identify make of cars sold
by Jas A Munro of Melbourne and Sydney in the early 1920. They were
agents Mors, Ruston Hornsby and Vermorel, --
This one is none of those but is at least British, made in Conventry,
by company making bicycles in 1896. One of our experts advises this
artillery-wheeled two-seater with dickey is a cca
1922 Swift Model M 12HP Two-Seater
with Australian bodywork. Company closed in 1931.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922 Ruston-Hornsby 16'22 Tourer
Some lovely photos received from Ian Berg
(Australia)
asking if we can identify make of cars sold
by Jas A Munro of Melbourne and Sydney in the early 1920. They were
agents Mors, Ruston Hornsby and Vermorel, - This
one is one. Founded 1828, manufacturer of steam traction and stationary
engines, they diversified into cars 1919. This is a cca
1922 Ruston-Hornsby 16'22 Tourer. Two
models made with total of 1,500 cas by end production 1924. Then diesel
locomotives. Became MAN in 2000.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922 Ruston-Hornsby & 1919 Mitchell
Some lovely photos received from Ian Berg
(Australia)
asking if we can identify make of cars sold
by Jas A Munro of Melbourne and Sydney in the early 1920. They were
agents Mors, Ruston Hornsby and Vermorel, -- This
one shows the proposed shop and seems to show probably same previous
Ruston Hornsby in the window and the Mitchell in the driveway.
Interesting to note that windscreen of the Mitchell, which looks
relatively flat side-on, is in fact very exaggerated vee
windscreen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922 Rumpler Tropfenwagen
Another curious photo sent to us by
Timothy Martin (USA) via
Mark Dawber of a 'rear engine mystery car" with a curios oval
chassis. Is it a Rumpler? --
Edmund Rumpler, originally Tatra, Daimler, Adler then building and
developing aicraft. In 1921 he built his first car based on aircraft aerodynamics
and 36HP W engine of 3 banks of 2 cylinders at 2580cc, capable of
70mmh. this is a cca 1922 Rumpler Tropfenwagen Limousine 5 seater.
About 100 cars built; versions raced by Mercedes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Chanard Walcker 16CV Limousine
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified,
so we have a go ! --
Distinctive 'circular' type radiator with dimples identifies this as a
French car made nearby Paris by company founded 1898 making
motorcycles. Becam fourth lagest cat maker but bankrupted 1936, taken
over by Chausson coachworks. This is a
cca 1927 Chanard Walcker 16CV Limousine,
6cyl.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1929 Hillman 14 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle
posted on a Facebook page.
Apparent identification was Austin but perhaps a Sunbeam. --
Actually neither, but a relatively unusual variant of a well
known UK make, - Hillman, formed in 1870 by William Hillman making
velocipedes. Started cars in Coventry in 1907. In 1928 company was
taken over by Rootes Brothers and merged with Humber. This is a cca
1929 Hillman 14 Tourer.
Became Chrysler 1967.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1930'1 Buick Series 90 Limousine
One of number of interesting photos
sent to us by Bruno Costers (Belgioun)
asking if we can help with identification
and dating of the vehicle? --
Initial identification from this photo is from the slightly notched
radiator top and the badge bar below the headlamps, and a twin blade
bumper. All are indicative of an 1930'32 American Buick. Our Mark
Dawber thinks this, like the car below, is also a
cca 1930 Buick Series 90, but this one has previous shape made earlier in
same year.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1931 Buick Series 90 Limousine
One of number of interesting photos
sent to us by Bruno Costers (Belgioun)
asking if we can help with identification
and dating of the vehicle? --
Initial identification from this photo is the slightly notched radiator
top and the higher badge bar with badge on it , and single bumper. Both
very indicative of an 1930'32 American Buick. Our Mark Dawber is
relatively sure that this is the the
biggest Buick for 1931, a
cca 1931 Buick Series 90 Limousine with
straight 8 engine of 4960cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1931 Ford Model A Standard Coupe
Another from a batch of interesting photos received
from Mike Sanders (USA)
from Montana which they have not been able to identify. "We can
date the photo at 1948 and believe that it was taken in Medford,
Oregon. It appears to be sporting an Oregon plate from '48. You have
seen the trailer before, next to the 1938 Ford Half Ton Pickup on HP145.
-- Family obviously
liked Fords at the time. No cowl side lights so this one is cca1931
Ford Model A Standard Coupe, known as
Business Coupe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Wanderer W22 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from German
Documentary film "ZDF-zeit", amateur footage taken summer
of 1939 about private life under Nazis. --
German car designed by Ferdinand Porsche as a rival to the
Mercedes 170 and manufactured in Siegmar, as part of the Auto-Union
group. This car has three windows each side and was referred to as
'light six' which dates it as a cca
1935 Wanderer W22 Saloon, 1950cc
straight six, engine reversed round with drive shaft forward, rear wheel
drive.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
UNKNOWN
Mid-1930s Charabanc
One of number of interesting photos
sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is collector of old photos. This one
is from a friend. --
Research says this is one of a
number of postcards featuring coaches from the company SLA Lourdes.
This mid 1930s
charabanc is on number of postcards in
differing places, but no one has been able to identify it. It seems
they had a number of differing makes with this peculiar low headroom
coachwork, so all bodies by same coachbuilder?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown Australian
Bodied Chassios
Some lovely photos received from Ian Berg
(Australia)
asking if we can identify make of cars sold
by Jas A Munro of Melbourne and Sydney in the early 1920. They were
agents Mors, Ruston Hornsby and Vermorel, - This
none of those and regretfully none of our experts have come come up
with any concrete ideas. We know that body was locally made
including the streamlined sidelight. Possibly Aerican wheels but
has more European 'draw' type bonnet handle. External drop
arm. HELP !
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