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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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We are very pleased to announce that we have hit a very important milestone in our service to the International Web Community by providing our 4,000th identification. This was reached on 30 July 2020. We would like to thank all international contributors who have sent us their enquiries, and we would especially like to thank our team of SVVS experts, our external experts and also the many international experts who have provided identifications in last 20 years.   Very  Well   Done!!

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903 De Dion Bouton Model G1 
Lovely period photo of a family group sent to us by Paul Edwards (UK) who knows where the photo was taken but is unable to date it. Identifying the vehicle may help in dating when it was taken.  --  This is a French voiturette (or a Vis-a-Vis with people facing each other). The absence of numberplates on both the car and the motorcycle helps in dating the photo pre-1904 when registrations introduced. Also the car is a cca 1903 De Dion Bouton Model G1 Vis-a-Vis made between 1902-03.

1903 De Dion Bouton Model G1

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903 Rex 3.25HP Motorcycle 
Lovely period photo of a family group sent to us by Paul Edwards (UK) who knows where the photo was taken but is  unable to date it. Identifying the vehicle may help in dating when it was taken.  -- The absence of numberplate on the motorcycle helps in dating the photo as pre-1904 when registrations first introduced. Also the motorcycle is recognisable from distictive petrol tank-cum-'swish box' as a cca 1903 Rex 3.25HP Motorcycle, similar winner 1903 Lands End-J.O'Groats race.

1903 Rex 3.25HP Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Panhard Levassor 15CV Surrey
Couple of slightly distorted photos posted by Terraplane (USA) on the AACA Forum taken in New Castle, Indiana asking for identification.  --  The car is French made by one of the earliest auto makers in Paris France. The confusing bit is that although it seems the same car with same childeren about the same time, the louvres on one side are different and the rad suround is damaged. This seems to be a cca 1904 Panhard Levassor C/H 15CV Surrey Tonneau,  3.3 litre inline-four O4R. 

1904 Panhard Levassor 15CV Surrey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Lambert Model F 40HP Touring
Slightly faded photo posted on The Old Motor AACA Forum by David Greelees (USA) of an unknown chain driven car asking if anybody knew what it was? --  Suggestions that it might be a Queen or a Thomas? Our original thoughts perhaps a Maxwell, but is chain drive. Our Ariejan Bos suggests it is a cca 1906 Lambert,  Model F 40HP Touring. These were made in Anderson Indiana by Buckeye Manufacturing Co. Mainly chain drive but all had Friction Drive as diff. Had one model  with a round rad.

1906 Lambert Model F 40HP Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Darracq 20'32 Limousine
Slightly faded photo posted on the AACA Forum by Leif Holmberg (Sweden) of a very smart Limousine which had been suggested as being a German NAG from Berlin. --  Our thoughts are that this car is French made by one of the earliest auto makers in Paris France. The bonnet is confusing having the unusual thin parallel-strip-edged radiator used for only a short time on the bigger Anglo-French cca 1906 Darracq 20'32 Open-Drive Limousine,  four cylinder,  aimed at the American market.

1906 Darracq 20'32 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Singer Two-Seater
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  --   Quite an unusual car and not many photos of this model. The round central part to a square radiator outside was the feature of a cca 1907 Singer Two-Seater, possibly the smaller 7/9 Model with a two cylinder White & Poppe Engine. They also made a bigger model, 12'14 with 2-cyl Aster engine.

1907 Singer Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Berliet 22CV Torpedo
Puzzling period photo posted by Bogdan Boieriu (Romania) asking for comments. Looks a very Romanian rural country scene. --  We have had many photos from Romania mainly of American cars for whom this must have been a good market. We also had this photo dated 1914 from different source and had advised that the car is French. Rad style does not match body style. The rad narrow top side boarder says cca 1907 Berliet 22CV; a  body with round bulkhead is more cca. 1911/12.    

1907 Berliet 22CV Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably 1908 SCAT 16'20 Torpedo
Very puzzling  grainy photo received from Steve King (Australia) of Grandfather as boy with family in around 1910, in Sydney, Australia. --  Our experts could not identify car but Daryl Meek of Royal Automobile Club of Victoria with help from others deduced car belonged to Thomas Stanley Daley, proprietor of Standsure Brickworks, - Marrickville, NSW, and recorded as a 22HP SCAT (22'32?). Due shape of radiator we feel this is Probably c1908 SCAT 16'20 Torpedo, possibly local body/wings?

Probably 1908 SCAT 16'20 Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Zedel 15HP Landaulette Taxi
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification. Darracq in Hawkes Bay,. NZ? --  Sometimes the obvious is worth following up: ZL just below the drivers door. Ariejan Bos confirmed some makes had logo in that location and advised that Zedel used well-known profiled top rad for only smaller models. This would seem to be a cca 1909 Zedel 15HP coachbuilt Landaulette Taxi researched as  built for G Fernandes.

1909 Zedel 15HP Landaulette Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Black 10HP Runabout 
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification. 1892 Blackoe? -- Five companies in US at turn of century named Black, main two; Indianapolis and Chicago; no trace Blackey. This is a chain driven two seat 'high wheeler', with hand controls and a steering wheel. Unlikely 1892. Has some suspension and other similarities to a cca 1909 Black 10HP Runabout made by the Black Manufacturing Co of Chicago.

1909 Black 10HP Runabout

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Straker Squire U 40 HP Chara
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for identification. This one was labeled 'Bus in Brighton'.  --  Pre-Southdown. The high header rad and the elaborate rear chain guard should have been easy but it needed help from 'Leylandman' Mike Sutcliffe who advised it is a Straker Squire Charabanc made in Bristol, model U, 30hp new in Aug. 1912 to Brighton, Hove & Preston United Omnibus Co Ltd. Vehicle went to Southdown on its formation in 1/4/15.

1912 Straker Squire U 40 HP Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 LGOC B Type Double Decker
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified. --  This is a 1913 LGOC B Type Double Decker passenger bus first introduced in 1911, made/operated by the London General Omnibus Co. Wooden frame, steel wheels, worm drive and chain gearbox, top speed 16 mph (26 km/h). Used in WW1 painted khaki to carry troops, 16 in 18 up. This has a mobile carrier pigeon loft.

1913 LGOC B Type Double Decker

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Ford Model T Knickerbocker
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified. --  Angular bonnet so  cca 1913 Ford Model T converted with a Knickerbocker Forma-Tractor rear chassis extension fitted with a sturdy rear axle and metal cleated wheels, and wooden pickup bed. Also fitted with the Knickerbocker extended steering and control column enabling steering from the pulled implement such as seeder or plough.

 1913 Ford Model T Knickerbocker Tractor

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Austin 12'4 Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  --  This is a British car introduced in 1921 as alteration to the one-model policy of Herbert Austin of before WW1. Car is based on the bigger Austin 20 of 1919 whose sales had began to fall. This is a cca 1922 Austin 12'4 Tourer of which 14, 000 were made to 1927, and as Taxi to 1939 and WG to 1940.

1922 Austin 12'4 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Chrysler B 70 Six Touring
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified. This was posted by John Bair of father in about 1935. The negative was printed backwards so this is looks left hand drive. Photo is on tin, mounted in cardboard. --  Reversed and repaired showing drum type headlights and split windscreen so this is one of the earliest Chryslers made,  being the cca 1924 Chrysler B 70 Six Touring.  

1924 Chrysler B 70 Six Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Berliet VHA 15cwt Van
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified. This posted by Jules Queva. --  Lovely photo of a van belonging to a Lyon car tyre remolding company. Smartly dressed driver, Le Parton? The Van is a lovely new vehicle from the new range of VI vehicles manufactured by the French company Automobiles M. Berliet SA, this being a cca 1924 Berliet VHA 15cwt van.

1924 Berliet VHA 15cwt Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 De Dion Bouton IW Two-Seater
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  --  Our thoughts are that this little car is French and was made by one of the earliest auto makers in Paris France who started in 1883 by making steam powered cars. Turned to petrol 1896 using Decauville trikes, became world's biggest vehicle maker, closed 1955. This is a cca 1926 De Dion Bouton IW Two-Seater.

1926 De Dion Bouton IW Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 Rover 10'25 Two-Seater
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  --  Registration is Pembrokeshire County Council cca 1926. The radiator has a cut-out in the lower centre of the  header tank which suggests a Rover car of Coventry, Not the popular Nine as has five wheel-studs, so is a cca 1926 Rover 10'25 Two-Seater, known as a Nippy Ten'. 15,000 variously bodied10'2s made.

1926 Rover 10'25 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Brennabor 8'24 Type P Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  --  The driver is wearing a fez which does not really help in locating picture; from the Ottoman empire in Turkey to Egypt in Middle East. Car is of German origin, made in Brandenburg by Europe's biggest manufacturer of prams, turned to making cars in 1908. This is a cca 1926 Brennabor 8'24 Type P Tourer.

1926 Brennabor 8'24 Type P Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably 1929 Panhad Levassor Sports
Another puzzling  photo received from Adrian Pascu-Tulbure (UK) relating to an item on historic cars of Romania, Very British looking open-top car photographed in 1933 Bucharest - but totally stumped as to what it could be. Any clues? --  Struggling a bit until our Rolls expewrt Tom Clarke suggested we look at Schneider or Panhard Levassor. Not a Schneider but is probably a cca 1929 Panhard Levassor 10CV Torpedo Sports Four Seater . It had the very rounded headlamps of French type.

Probably 1929 Panhad Levassor Sports

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930 Renault NN2 Camionette
Surfing the internet in trying to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified. This posted by Jules Queva. --  Lovely photo of a suggested early " Mobile Camera Speed Trap"!  The vehicle is a French cca 1930 Renault NN2 Camionette. The Cocarette camera was made by Zeiss Ikon  in Dresdewn Germany between 1926-30. The Plavic film was made by Planchon Cellulose Corporation in Lyon up to 1930.

1930 Renault NN2 Camionette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932 Rover 12HP Pilot Roadster
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum post requiring identification of car in Shanghai. Hornet? -- Front with narrow headlights reminded of 1930 Rover Light Six. Rover were very busy changing models at the time but this has the characteristic mounting for a horn mid radiator as found on the Pilot. Seems this is a cca 1932 Rover 12HP Pilot Roadster which may have a coachbuilt Nizam Body by Carbodies, mainly on the lighter 10HP. cca 1932 Rover 12HP Pilot Roadster which may have a coachbuilt Nizam Body by Carbodies, mainly on the lighter 10HP.

1932 Rover 12HP Pilot Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Railton 8 Coachbuilt Coupe
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.  --  The car seems to have a Romanian registreation from Bucharest, the capital. The sign in the background seems to be Hungarian suggesting drive slowly and the car on the pole is a post 1916 Model T Ford ladaulette Taxi. We are relatively sure the car on road is a cca 1935 Railton 8 Coachbuilt Coupe.

1935 Railton 8 Coachbuilt Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Delage D8S Aeroprofil
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification. Delage? --  Seems to be an exhibition exercise by Carroserie Gaston Grummer of Clichy, Paris, France, photoed '34 Philadelphia, made for exhibition and demonstration use. This Aeroprofil body style was patented and fitted to this cca 1934 Delage D8S 30HP Aeroprofil Coupe after a very similar body was fitted to a 1934 Renault  2-door fastback Nervasport coupé. 

934 Delage D8S Aeroprofil

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown cca WW1 Tourer
Very Puzzling period picture posted by  Pär Sörliden (Sweden) asking for help in  identification  of photo in the Stockholm Stadsmuseum's digital archive, but he is failing to identify the car. --  Lovely quality of photo so should have been easy but this one has been doing the rounds of our experts for the last few weeks and nobody has come up with a definitive identification. The car seems to have a Germanic feel. Slatted radiator and a round badge, badge perhaps missing.  Any Help please!?

Unknown cca WW1 Tourer
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