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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1901 Progress 4.5HP Vis-a-Vis
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the SVVS website.  --  Looks based on De Dion Bouton engine from the starter handle hole in the side but strange rear spring. Wise sages advise it is a cca 1901 Progress 4.5HP Vis-a-Vis made in Coventry,  UK.  Lasted  1891 to  1903. 

1901 Progress 4.5HP Vis-a-Vis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1901 Peugeot type 54 Updated
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to items appearing on the SVVS website. --  Advised by our Ariejan Bos that this is again a modified modernised earlier vehicle. Basically cca 1901 Baby Peugeot type 54, with new wire wheels and new bonnet. Old characteristic long ratchet extension lever.

1901 Peugeot type 54 Updated

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902 Brooke 12hp Tonneau
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to items appearing on the SVVS website. --  Advised by our Ariejan Bos that this is a cca 1902 Brooke 12hp Rear Entrance Tonneau. These cars were manufactured in Lowestoft and used a modified marine 3 cylinder engine. Additional high lever radiator.

1902 Brooke 12hp Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904 Brushmobile 6HP Two Seater
Interesting photograph received from Brenda Gilbert (UK) showing her Great Uncle Vic Hutfield and his wife Lou in the cca 1904 Brushmobile 6HP Two Seater. It is believed that Vic donated the car, amongst others, to the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu. 
--  Vic Hutfield was a pioneer in the fields of motorcars, motorcycles and aeroplanes in Gosport, Hampshire. This car HP 25 is well known (see HP41 and HP96) as a 'photographer's prop', so this could perhaps be a staged photo too?

1904 Brushmobile 6HP Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Darracq 24HP Surrey
While surfing the net on other matters I came across this unidentified photo and saved it for future investigation. I have now lost the reference as to where I saw it, so cannot acknowledge the origin or advise directly.  --  This puzzled me because of the segmented type of bonnet and of the cente pin in the radiator. It all looked a bit home made with all those rivets. Our experts were reluctant to pin it down but Rory Sinclair  thinks it is a modified  cca 1904 Darracq,  4 cylinder 24hp.

1904 Darracq 24HP Surrey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably 1905 Singer Tricar
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to items appearing on the SVVS website. --  Blurry photo but two of our experts agree from the probable tower radiators, rear mudguard, badges etc,  that this is probably a cca 1905 Singer Tricar.  Singer was considered more automobile than motorcycle.

1905 Singer Tricar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Horbick Phaeton
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the SVVS website. -- Very unusual car but one we have had before, and I had forgotten ! One of our wise sages advised made in Pendleton, Manchester by Horsfall & Bickham and was a  cca 1907 Horbick Phaeton,  possibly the 12'16 four.

1907 Horbick Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Haynes Touring Car
Another photo sent to us by our regular contributor and expert Mark Dawber  (New Zealand).
Brief examination suggests maybe a Pope-Hartford. -- We had determined not any of the Popes but did not have an answer as to what it actually was. Ariejan Boss contacted us subsequently and advised that this is a Kokomo, Indiana built cca 1907 Haynes Touring car, probably the larger 50 HP. Note characteristic crank  handle  support.  Not a feature of the photo/car I had spotted!

1907 Haynes Touring Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 BSA 15'20 Landaulette
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the SVVS website.  --  Either a badly faded photo of a very foggy day indeed! Thought it was a 1910 Humber but have subsequently been told it is more likely a cca 1910 BSA 15'20 Open Drive Landaulette.  Registration likely Leeds.

1910 BSA 15'20 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Delahaye Torpedo Decapotable
Photo received from Paul Page (UK) of his great grandfather whose job was listed as a motor driver in 1915, based in the London area. Car mascot is called a Bluebird but probably after-market. It would be fantastic if we could recognise the car.  --  Should have been easy but I needed reminding of early French Delahaye radiators. This is a cca 1910 Delahaye Torpedo Decapotable, (Tourer) probably type 32. Body looks British and cars were imported to UK by HM Hobson, and altered for UK.

1910 Delahaye Torpedo Decapotable

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Hispano Suiza Alfonso Sports
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the SVVS website.  --  This photo has two cars. The car in the foreground was made in Barcelona, Spain, named after the King Alfonso XIII, a good customer of the company.  This is a  cca 1912  Hispano Suiza  Alfonso XIII Sports.

1912 Hispano Suiza Alfonso Sports

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Metallurgique 40HP Landaulette
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to his items appearing on the SVVS website.  --  This photo has two cars. The car in background has a recognisable radiar as either an American Chevrolet or Belgian Metallurgique. This is a cca 1912 Metallurgique 40HP Limousine Landaulette by Vanden Plas.

 1912 Metallurgique 40HP Limousine Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Austro Daimler Prince Heinrich
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. --  This one was very embarrassing as I should have got it immediately, there being a number on our Help Pages. This type of rad was used for short time only. This is  a cca 1912 Austro Daimler Prince Heinrich Tulip Bodied Phaeton,  designed  by  Ferdinand Porsche senior.

1912 Austro Daimler Prince Heinrich Tulip Bodied Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 De Dion Bouton 8HP Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a British historical period drama "Suffragette"  made in 2015  where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about women's suffrage in the United Kingdom at the time of Emmeline Pankhurst and was the first to be shot in the British Houses of Parliament (by Big Ben).  -- Rather pretty Kent County Council registered cca 1912 De Dion Bouton 8HP Torpedo. De Dion Bouton & Trepardoux were pioneers of motoring in 1883 to late 1950s.

1912 De Dion Bouton 8HP Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Short Admiralty Type 184 Biplane
Another lovely photo received from Keith Chiazzari, Alberta (Canada) for whom we identified a 1914 Napier. Great-uncle Leonard Slatter was stationed in Dunkirk. Eventually became an Air Marshal in the RAF during WW2 in charge of Coastal Command. -- Our Robin Vince and Derek Wright say plane is Short 184/225 of the Royal Navy Air Service circa 1915/6. First aircraft used at sea in support of the Navy.  Used at the  Battle of Jutland  and was first to  sink a ship.  Lewes machine gun. 

Short Admiralty Type 184 Biplane

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Overland Four Touring
Interesting photograph received from Russ Mann  (UK) asking if we
can shed any light on the car in the attached photo. Car has seen better days! Second from left is his grandfather (b. 1871). Reg mark is Pembrokeshire, photo probably Narberth.--  Reg plate shape does not look British, but if it is, DE is Pembrokshire. Car is American, built by Overland in Indianapolis, which had become Willys Overland. This is a cca 1916 Overland Four Touring, with retrofitted acetylene gas lighting.

1916 Overland Four Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Flint Model E Touring
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to  items appearing on the SVVS website. --  This one looks American and we are relatively sure that it is a car built in Flint, Michigan, a  cca 1924 Flint Model E Touring. Flint was one of  Billy Durant's  companies following  being ousted from General Motors 1911.

1924 Flint Model E Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 Armstrong Siddeley 14'4 Saloon
Another amusing photo c/o our regular contributor and expert Mark Dawber  (New Zealand).
Is the car sharing the forecourt with a biplane the Armstrong Siddeley 14? -- Close saloon bodywork suggests a British cca 1926 Armstrong Siddeley 14'4 Broadway Saloon. Further research advises photo is New Zealand, Timaru, 1935/6. Plume Motor Spirit was made by Vacuum Oil Co who were American and started operations in Wellington NZ in 1896. Overall company eventually became ExxonMobil.

1926 Armstrong Siddeley 14'4 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931 Nash 450 Sedan
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to items appearing on the SVVS website. --  Typical car of American early 1930s period but this one has an unusual feature which are stalks holding up the bowl headlamps below  badge bar. It is a cca 1931 Nash 450 Sedan made in Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA.

1931 Nash 450 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932 SS2 Coupe
Another photo received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) who says always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages. Perhaps we would enjoy the challenge of identifying a few mystery car photos from his collection. Looks forward to items appearing on the SVVS website. --  Made by the Swallow Sidecar Co, later SS Cars, this is the second generation cca 1932 SS2 Coupe, being a Standard Motor Co chassis/engine, with Swallow bodies. SS later changed name to Jaguar.

1932 SS2 Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Buick 67 Sedan
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?   --  There are two cars on the photo and this item is dealing with the right one. Our Mark Dawber advises an American cca 1933 Buick Sedan. Based on the space between the rear of the front tyre and the front of the side mounted spare, probably Series 60. It looks to be a flat back sedan so Model 67.

1933 Buick 67 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Ford Model B Seadan
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?   --  There are two cars on the photo and this item is dealing with the left one. The left one has an oval badge and was manufactured between 1933 and 1934 and is a cca 1933 Ford Model B Four Door Sedan. No V8 badge so straight four. Similar also manufactured in Berlin, Germany,  as the Ford "Rheinland".

1933 Ford Model B Seadan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934 Ford Model BB Pickup
Interesting photograph received from Russ Mann  (USA) asking if we would be able to help identify the model/year of the car pictured. His company is celebrating their centennial and he believes this was one of the first company vehicles in Chicago in the 1930's or 40's. --  This is a Detroit product from the new Ford Model B range made between 1932 and 1934, which followed the Model A range. This is a cca 1934 Ford Model BB Pickup. No badge on headlamp bar so is the 4 cylinder, not V8.

1934 Ford Model BB Pickup

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Hanomag Rekord
Another interesting photo sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. No specific information provided as to where and when taken. Can we identify the car?  -- Shape reminiscent of the Traction-Avant so quite difficult as a number of manufactured followed the fashion, and pozing people on photo are hiding main identification features. Relatively sure from the wheels that this is German Hannover made  cca 1935 Hanomag Rekord 4Dr. Saloon.

1935 Hanomag Rekord Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938 Wanderer Type W24  Limousine
Another interesting photo sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. This photo taken by the Red Army soldier in January 1945 in occupied Germany. Can we identify the car?  -- Car is German and carries an Auto Union badge which comprised 1932 Audi, Horch, DKW and Wanderer. From radiator and louvre, this is better end cca 1938 Wanderer Type W24  Limousine. Engines developed by Ferdinand Porsche.  Wander, Chemnitz, closed  by  bombing in  1945.

1938 Wanderer Type W24  Limousine
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