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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902 Holden 3HP Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on HAMB which required ID. "Old bike is a Hildebrand + Wolfmuller".  -- Regret records seem to indicate this is a similar machine but is a British cca 1902 Holden Four Cylinder 3HP Motorcycle designed by Colonel Sir Henry Capel Holden; four stroke tandem engine, which had direct drive to rear wheels similar in principle to Pennington and also to  Hildebrand + Wolfmuller. H + W Started with making steam powered motorcycles.

1902 Holden 3HP Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903 Victoria Three Wheeler
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on facebook which needs identification. -- Has proved quite intriguing: "WG Shaw, runner with the Lyttelton Times".  Subsequently determined the trike was built by Henry J Ranger's Victoria Cycle and Motor Factory in Victoria St., Christchurch, Rangers were later agents for the Conrad car, and later still Ford. Looks very well engineered, so perhaps possibly some doubt about it being locally designed and built, as early as 1903?

1903 Victoria Three Wheeler

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly c1903 Lacoste & Battmann
Another puzzling photo received from from Georges Truffaut (Belgium) of a vehicle on French photographs in Paris c1903,with stamps from 1905/6. --  Bonnet/radiator very reminiscent of the French Lacoste & Battmann 1897-1913 who made cars for other companies including in UK. Our Ariejan Bos advises photos by Guilleminot, Boespflug & Cie. 1855-1907 from Paris who had own various older 'photographer's prop' cars including 487 EE. If L & B, then strange low rad and wire wheels? 

Possibly c1903 Lacoste & Battmann based voiturette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1901 Columbia 5HP Three-Seater
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we knew what this one was? Photo from a Romanian flea market ! -- Seems an unusual configuration up front so we had to call on our veterans expert Ariejan Bos who advises this is a cca 1901 Columbia 5HP Three-Seater. What is unusual is that this is one cylinder petrol powered car designed by Hiram Maxim, in 1898 rather than the more well known Columbia electric car.

1901 Columbia 5HP Voiturette Three-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably 1906 Laurin & Klement 8HP
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this very blurry photo which is one half of a horisontal bioscope card, which has defied identification. -- We have enhanced the photo and note it was marked "Parihaka Natives", and seems to show Maori passengers. Car looked British, perhaps an Argyll or Albion, but our veterans expert Ariejan Bos has had a better more interesting idea that it may be a cca 1906 Laurin & Klement 8HP of Bohemia, available in NZ. Seems to fit !

Probably 1906 Laurin & Klement 8HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably 1907 Pullman Touring
Interesting photo posted on the AACA Forum website by West Peterson (USA) asking for ideas. We suggested cca1906 Argyll 10’12 made in Scotland as a possibility. No agreement but nothing other offered ! -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos suggests cca 1907 Pullman Touring by York Motor Car Co, York, PA, USA. Not many photos of Pullman show the front in detail, but strong pointer is bonnet hinge is composed of quite wide hinge sections rather than a continuous hinge.

1907 Pullman Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Metallurgiqe-Maybach Special
Interesting photo sent to us by David Lewis (UK) taken in the early sixties at the Brighton Speed Trials.  -- One of our wise sages, now a regular contributor to 'The Automobile', advised that this is Douglas Fitzpatrick driving his 1907 Metallurgiqe-Maybach Special. Engine ex WW1 airship and over 20 litres from memory. A familiar car stripped of mudguards and all seats. More recently, since DF's demise, owned by Brian Moore, now himself deceased, so probably now with his son, Tim.

1907 Metallurgiqe-Maybach Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Aylesbury 8'10 Tonneau
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we knew what this one was? -- Equally obscure and equally Irish as the 'Shamrock' on this page. This is a cca 1907 Alesbury Tonneau fritted with 8'10HP American two-cylinder Stevens-Duryea engine. Car was made at Edenderry Works in east County Offaly (not far from Dublin). Only nine cars were produced, with 'exceedingly strong springs' for solid tyres, but not on this photo.

1907 Aylesbury 8'10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Milnes Daimler Omnibus
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on facebook requiring identification of a London bus he did not recognise.   -- The Vanguard Company was one of the principal bus operators in London that was purchased in 1908 by its main competitor the London General Omnibus Company (LGOC) who thereby had virually the monoply of bus operations in London. Vanguard operated a fleet of Milnes Daimler Omnibuses and when merged with LGOC over 300 M-Ds.

1908 Milnes Daimler Omnibus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 ROC 5'6HP Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on facebook requiring identification. -- Our Chas Moody advises this is definitely a cca 1909 ROC 5'6HP V-twin (Ride on Comfort), an English make (1904-1915) by A W Wall Ltd, Birmingham, and financed by Arthur Conan Doyle of Sherlock Holmes fame. Distinctive by their unusually long wheelbase, they used mainly Precision or ROC engines often V twins, although engine of this one looks very Peugeot-esque.

1909 ROC 5'6HP Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Argyll 12 HP Tourer
Enquiry posted on West Coast History website by Nancy Carr (New Zealand) saying Grandfather and his brother 'built' car Christmas 1923 and went on a road trip from Christchurch to Nelson. -- While possible brothers may have modified car a bit, it seems a pretty standard cca 1913 Argyll 12 HP Tourer. The Argyll car was manufactured in Alexandria, West Dunbartonshire, in Scotland and was Scottish largest car producer. In 1914 ceased making cars. Few post war models to '32.

1913 Argyll 12 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Ford Model T Touring
Interesting subsequent photo sent to us by Jim Morrissey (USA) of great-great grandparents, Elzear and Emma Gagnon. The pictures were taken in 1927 on their farm in Windsor, Quebec, Canada. -- Some of the identification features are not in the picture but this is a Ford Model T.  The bonnet and radiator are angled rather that curved, the bonnet is fitted with louvres, curved scuttle, and the roof is a 'two-man-top'. All this dates to a cca 1915 Ford Model T Touring. Bonnet is curved in 1916.

1915 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Ford Model T Raceabout Special
Interesting photo sent to us by Jim Morrissey (USA) of great grandfather, George McGraine, circa 1925 taken in Old Orchard, ME. He has tried to identify it with no luck. Not an expert but would really like to know make and model. -- An easy difficult one! This is a 'Special' and as has no front spring dumbirons, is built on a Model T Ford. Dating identifiers have been changed but as has rounded bonnet, lip on mudguard, big louvres, it is a cca 1916 Ford Model T Raceabout Special.

1916 Ford Model T Raceabout Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Rover 8 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on facebook requiring identification. He thought car may be a Rover?  -- Indeed a cca 1923 Rover 8 Tourer having a two cylinder horisontally opposed 1134cc air cooled engine, made in Solihull in Warwickshire by company who started making bicycles in 1885, motorcycles in 1902 and cars 1903. Air cooling scoops on bonnet sides not visible. Dating of car is from a curved back for a Dickey and lack of wheel hub embellishers.

1923 Rover 8 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Star Model F Touring
Another couple of lovely period photos sent to us by Ronald Van Til (USA but in New Zealand) taken in the 1920's of Grandfather's car in Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA. Perhaps that number on the license plate is a large clue? --  Licence plate helps to date car to 1925 in Michigan. The radiator has scallops on the sides which limits makes. This is a car made by Durant Motors and aimed to compete with Ford T, being a cca 1925 Star Model F Touring. In the UK and Empire it was called 'Rugby'. 

1925 Star Model F Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927 Chandler Standard Sedan
Interesting subsequent photo sent to us by Jim Morrissey (USA) of great-great grandparents, Elzear and Emma Gagnon. The pictures were taken in 1927 on their farm in Windsor, Quebec, Canada. -- Couple of our experts agree on this one being a cca 1927 Chandler Standard Sedan via the two rows of ten louvres used for two years. American car made in Cleveland Ohio which had cheaper make Cleveland. Over -expanded and purchased 1929 by Hupp Motor Co., and discontinued.

1927 Chandler Standard Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932 Opel 1.8 Litre Cabriolet
Reader Ldogg53 posted this picture on HAMB saying this is a photo of his grandparents in Argentina. He has not been able to figure out what the cars is. Grandpa was a huge car fanatic.  -- Interesting car for Argentina where car origin would be presumed to be American. This car however is German although or American design after purchase of major shares by General Motors. This is a cca 1932 Opel 1.8 Litre Cabriolet four seater two door/window, 32HP, six cylinder sidevalve.

1932 Opel 1.8 Litre Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937 New Imperial 500cc V Twin
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found this photo on HAMB which required an ID. "Old bike is Hildebrand+Wolfmuller, other possibly GP Husqvarna".  -- Regret challenge on both counts. One of our Members is due to give a talk on Beatrice Shilling so I have seen the this picture before. It shows 'Tilly', at the rear, on a cca 1937 New Imperial 500cc V Twin. She was a regular motorcycle racer. Tilly invented the carburetor which enabled Spifires to fly upside-down!!

 1937 New Imperial 500cc V Twin

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939 Buick Century Convertible
Another lovely period photo sent to us by Ronald Van Til (USA but in New Zealand) of his Father's first car (also in Grand Rapids, Michigan,) -- probably taken in the late 1930's or early 1940's. --  Car is American and from front grille it is a General Motors Buick (founded 1897). This type of grille was used in 1939 when the cars had been upgraded to have straight eight cylinder engines. From the photo this is a cca 1939 Buick but it is difficult to say if it a Convertible Coupe or Touring Sedan.

1939 Buick Century Converti

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca 1945 Austin 12 Saloon
Rather grainy indistinct photo sent to us by previous contributor Simon Prentis (UK) hoping someone could identify this car which was used by his parents on their honeymoon in 1949. It appears to have a sunroof, which he thought was a much more recent feature!  -- This is a just-post WW2 mid range Austin but no registration to help dating or clear sight of details as to model. It is probably a cca 1945 Austin 12 Saloon. Introduced 1939 but interrupted by war,  and post-war made to 1947.

c1945 Austin 12 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1959 AC Ace Bristol Sports
Three bit grainy photos sent to us by Simon Barnard (UK) taken c1959. Driver is his father Joseph Barnard and passenger is uncle John Bray. Puzzling logo on the side of the car. -- Registration is Surrey; car is cca 1959 AC Ace Bristol Sports. AC latterly famous for the AC Cobra, introduced the Ace in 1953. In 1956 introduced option of Bristol Cars' two-litre 120 bhp straight-six, 116 mph, 0–60 mph in 9 secs. Further mods made in 1961 to the Bristol engine by Ken Rudd, a racer of ACs.

1959 AC Ace Bristol Sports

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1959 Shamrock Sports Convertible
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we knew what this one was? -- Not this one! Research advises the Shamrock car was made in Ireland (?) in Tralee 1959, by an American restaurant equipment manufacturer. Used Austin 1.5L engine and train, and fiberglass body, which required dropping of the rear axle to change rear wheel. Only about ten cars were ever made. Prototype made in Guildford, UK. Price in GBP £2,500. 

 1959 Shamrock Sports Convertible

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1966 Renault 10 Major Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this photo of a car taken in 1968 somewhere in the Eastern Europe .(?) Is it possible to ID the vehicle and country (judging from the number plate)? -- Car is French, badge with 'M..' and round headlamps, so is a cca 1966 Renault R10 Major Saloon. New model introduced 1967 with square headlamps. It seems numberplate is Polish post 1964 as numbers first/letters last. 

1966 Renault 10 Major Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Unknown 1910s Buggy Special
Fascinating set of photos received from Ken Kelly, Port Townsend, near Seattle (USA) saying he has purchased a car that ....after OVER 100 hours of searching the web....I cannot name. I even tried all of your pages of searches.   At first glance......Renault.....but... -- Definitely not Renault for many reasons. We have contacted some of our veteran experts and all agree it does not seem of European origin; probably American. Regret no identification;  so help from readers appreciated.

Unknown 1910s Buggy Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Unknown 1920s Two-Seater
Interesting photo received from our Singer expert Simon Bishop (UK) saying rceived from Singer car Club Australia. Not sure it is a Singer but would almost certainly be fitted with a locally built body. -- Lovely set of whale jaw-bones bigger than car at Wonthaggi Hotel, Victoria 1935, still there! Regret enquiry has done rounds of all our experts but nobody has been able to nail it. Probably not Singer, but something with external drop arm coming from lower right bonnet & second bolt-on row louvers.

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