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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1902 Holden 3HP Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on HAMB which
required ID. "Old bike is a
Hildebrand + Wolfmuller". --
Regret records seem to indicate this is a
similar machine but is a British cca
1902 Holden Four Cylinder 3HP Motorcycle designed
by Colonel Sir Henry Capel Holden; four stroke tandem engine, which had
direct drive to rear wheels similar in principle to Pennington and also
to Hildebrand + Wolfmuller. H + W Started with making steam
powered motorcycles.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1903 Victoria Three Wheeler
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on facebook
which needs identification. -- Has
proved quite intriguing: "WG Shaw, runner with the Lyttelton
Times". Subsequently determined the trike was built by
Henry J Ranger's
Victoria Cycle
and Motor Factory in Victoria St., Christchurch,
Rangers were later agents for the Conrad car, and later still Ford.
Looks very well engineered, so perhaps possibly some doubt about it
being locally designed and built, as early as 1903?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly
c1903 Lacoste & Battmann
Another puzzling photo received from
from Georges Truffaut (Belgium) of a
vehicle on French photographs in Paris c1903,with stamps from 1905/6. --
Bonnet/radiator very reminiscent of the French Lacoste & Battmann
1897-1913 who made cars for other companies including in UK. Our
Ariejan Bos advises photos by Guilleminot, Boespflug & Cie.
1855-1907 from Paris who had own various older 'photographer's prop'
cars including 487 EE. If L & B, then strange low rad and wire
wheels?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1901 Columbia 5HP Three-Seater
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? Photo from a Romanian
flea market ! --
Seems an unusual configuration up front so we had to call on our
veterans expert Ariejan Bos who advises this is a
cca 1901 Columbia 5HP Three-Seater.
What is unusual is that this is one cylinder petrol powered car
designed by Hiram Maxim, in 1898 rather than the more well known
Columbia electric car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Probably
1906 Laurin & Klement 8HP
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this very blurry photo
which is one half of a horisontal bioscope card, which has defied identification. --
We have enhanced the photo and note it was
marked "Parihaka Natives", and seems to show Maori
passengers. Car looked British, perhaps an Argyll or Albion, but our
veterans expert Ariejan Bos has had a better more interesting idea that
it may be a cca
1906 Laurin & Klement 8HP of
Bohemia, available in NZ. Seems to fit !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Probably 1907 Pullman Touring
Interesting photo posted on the AACA Forum
website by West Peterson (USA)
asking for ideas. We suggested cca1906
Argyll 10’12 made in Scotland as a possibility. No agreement but
nothing other offered ! --
Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos
suggests cca
1907 Pullman Touring by York Motor Car
Co, York, PA, USA. Not many photos of Pullman show the front in detail,
but strong pointer is bonnet hinge is composed of quite wide hinge
sections rather than a continuous hinge.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Metallurgiqe-Maybach Special
Interesting photo sent to us by David
Lewis (UK)
taken in the early sixties at the Brighton Speed Trials. -- One
of our wise sages, now a regular contributor to 'The Automobile',
advised that this is Douglas
Fitzpatrick driving his 1907 Metallurgiqe-Maybach Special. Engine ex
WW1 airship and over 20 litres from memory. A familiar car stripped of
mudguards and all seats. More recently, since DF's demise, owned by
Brian Moore, now himself deceased, so probably now with his son, Tim.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Aylesbury 8'10 Tonneau
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? --
Equally obscure and equally Irish as the 'Shamrock' on this page. This
is a cca
1907 Alesbury Tonneau fritted with
8'10HP American two-cylinder Stevens-Duryea engine. Car was made at
Edenderry Works in east County Offaly (not far from Dublin). Only nine
cars were produced, with 'exceedingly strong springs' for solid tyres,
but not on this photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Milnes Daimler Omnibus
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on facebook
requiring identification of a London bus he did not recognise. -- The
Vanguard Company was one of the principal bus operators in London that
was purchased in 1908 by its main competitor the London General Omnibus
Company (LGOC) who thereby had virually the monoply of bus operations
in London. Vanguard operated a fleet of Milnes
Daimler Omnibuses and when merged with
LGOC over 300 M-Ds.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 ROC 5'6HP Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on facebook
requiring identification. --
Our Chas Moody advises this is definitely
a cca 1909 ROC 5'6HP V-twin (Ride on Comfort), an English make
(1904-1915) by A W Wall Ltd, Birmingham, and financed by Arthur Conan
Doyle of Sherlock Holmes fame. Distinctive by their unusually long
wheelbase, they used mainly Precision or ROC engines often V twins,
although engine of this one looks very Peugeot-esque.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Argyll 12 HP Tourer
Enquiry posted on West Coast History
website by Nancy Carr (New
Zealand) saying Grandfather and his
brother 'built' car Christmas 1923 and went on a road trip from
Christchurch to Nelson. --
While possible brothers may have modified
car a bit, it seems a pretty standard cca
1913 Argyll 12 HP Tourer. The Argyll
car was manufactured in Alexandria, West Dunbartonshire, in Scotland
and was Scottish largest car producer. In 1914 ceased making cars. Few
post war models to '32.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915 Ford Model T Touring
Interesting subsequent photo sent to us by
Jim Morrissey (USA)
of great-great
grandparents, Elzear and Emma Gagnon. The pictures were taken in 1927
on their farm in Windsor, Quebec, Canada. --
Some of the identification features are
not in the picture but this is a Ford Model T. The bonnet and
radiator are angled rather that curved, the bonnet is fitted with
louvres, curved scuttle, and the roof is a 'two-man-top'. All this
dates to a
cca 1915 Ford Model T Touring. Bonnet
is curved in 1916.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1916 Ford Model T Raceabout Special
Interesting photo sent to us by Jim
Morrissey (USA)
of great
grandfather, George McGraine, circa 1925 taken in Old Orchard, ME. He
has tried to identify it with no luck. Not an expert but would really
like to know make and model.
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easy difficult one! This is a 'Special' and as has no front
spring dumbirons, is built on a Model T Ford. Dating identifiers have
been changed but as has rounded bonnet, lip on mudguard, big louvres,
it is a cca
1916 Ford Model T Raceabout Special.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923 Rover 8 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on facebook
requiring identification. He thought car may be a Rover? -- Indeed
a
cca 1923 Rover 8 Tourer having a two
cylinder horisontally opposed 1134cc air cooled engine, made in
Solihull in Warwickshire by company who started making bicycles in
1885, motorcycles in 1902 and cars 1903. Air cooling scoops on bonnet
sides not visible. Dating of car is from a curved back for a Dickey and
lack of wheel hub embellishers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925 Star Model F Touring
Another couple of lovely
period photos sent to us by Ronald Van Til (USA
but in New Zealand) taken in the
1920's of Grandfather's car in Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA. Perhaps
that number on the license plate is a large clue?
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Licence plate helps to date car to
1925 in Michigan. The radiator has scallops on the sides which limits
makes. This is a car made by Durant Motors and aimed to compete with
Ford T, being a cca 1925 Star Model F Touring. In the UK and Empire it
was called 'Rugby'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Chandler Standard Sedan
Interesting subsequent photo sent to us by
Jim Morrissey (USA)
of great-great
grandparents, Elzear and Emma Gagnon. The pictures were taken in 1927
on their farm in Windsor, Quebec, Canada.
-- Couple
of our experts agree on this one being a cca
1927 Chandler Standard Sedan via the
two rows of ten louvres used for two years. American car made in
Cleveland Ohio which had cheaper make Cleveland. Over -expanded and
purchased 1929 by Hupp Motor Co., and discontinued.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1932 Opel 1.8 Litre Cabriolet
Reader Ldogg53 posted this picture on
HAMB saying this is a photo of his grandparents in Argentina. He has
not been able to figure out what the cars is. Grandpa was a huge car
fanatic. -- Interesting
car for Argentina where car origin would be presumed to be American.
This car however is German although or American design after purchase
of major shares by General Motors. This is a cca
1932 Opel 1.8 Litre Cabriolet four
seater two door/window, 32HP, six cylinder sidevalve.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1937 New Imperial 500cc V Twin
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on HAMB which
required an ID. "Old bike is
Hildebrand+Wolfmuller, other possibly GP Husqvarna".
-- Regret
challenge on both counts. One of our Members is due to give a talk on
Beatrice Shilling so I have seen the this picture before. It shows 'Tilly',
at the rear, on a cca
1937 New Imperial 500cc V Twin.
She was a regular motorcycle racer. Tilly invented the carburetor which
enabled Spifires to fly upside-down!!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1939 Buick Century Convertible
Another lovely
period photo sent to us by Ronald Van Til (USA
but in New Zealand) of his Father's first
car (also in Grand Rapids, Michigan,) -- probably taken in the late
1930's or early 1940's. -- Car
is American and from front grille it is a General Motors Buick
(founded 1897). This type of grille was used in 1939 when the cars had
been upgraded to have straight eight cylinder engines. From the photo
this is a cca 1939 Buick but it is difficult to say if it a Convertible
Coupe or Touring Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca 1945 Austin 12 Saloon
Rather grainy indistinct photo sent to us by
previous contributor Simon Prentis (UK)
hoping someone could identify this car which was used by his
parents on their honeymoon in 1949. It appears to have a sunroof, which
he thought was a much more recent feature! --
This is a just-post WW2 mid range Austin
but no registration to help dating or clear sight of details as to
model. It is probably a cca
1945 Austin 12 Saloon. Introduced 1939
but interrupted by war, and post-war made to 1947.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1959 AC Ace Bristol Sports
Three bit grainy photos sent to us by
Simon Barnard (UK)
taken c1959. Driver is his father Joseph Barnard and passenger is uncle
John Bray. Puzzling logo on the side of the car. --
Registration is Surrey; car is cca
1959 AC Ace Bristol Sports. AC latterly
famous for the AC Cobra, introduced the Ace in 1953. In 1956
introduced option of Bristol Cars' two-litre 120 bhp straight-six, 116
mph, 0–60 mph in 9 secs. Further mods made in 1961 to the Bristol
engine by Ken Rudd, a racer of ACs.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1959 Shamrock Sports Convertible
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? --
Not this one! Research advises the Shamrock
car was made in Ireland (?) in Tralee 1959, by an American restaurant
equipment manufacturer. Used Austin 1.5L engine and train, and
fiberglass body, which required dropping of the rear axle to change
rear wheel. Only about ten cars were ever made. Prototype made in
Guildford, UK. Price in GBP £2,500.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1966 Renault 10 Major Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this photo of a car taken
in 1968 somewhere in the Eastern Europe .(?) Is it possible to ID the
vehicle and country (judging from the number plate)? --
Car is French, badge with 'M..' and round
headlamps, so is a cca
1966 Renault R10 Major Saloon. New
model introduced 1967 with square headlamps. It seems numberplate is
Polish post 1964 as numbers first/letters last.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown 1910s
Buggy Special
Fascinating set of photos received from
Ken Kelly, Port Townsend, near Seattle (USA)
saying he has purchased a car that ....after OVER 100 hours of
searching the web....I cannot name. I even tried all of your pages of
searches. At first glance......Renault.....but... --
Definitely not Renault for many reasons. We have contacted some of our
veteran experts and all agree it does not seem of European origin;
probably American. Regret no identification; so
help from readers appreciated.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown
1920s Two-Seater
Interesting photo received from our Singer
expert Simon Bishop (UK)
saying rceived from Singer car Club Australia. Not sure it is a Singer
but would almost certainly be fitted with a locally built body. --
Lovely set of whale jaw-bones bigger than car at Wonthaggi Hotel,
Victoria 1935, still there! Regret enquiry has done rounds of all our
experts but nobody has been able to nail it. Probably
not Singer, but something with
external drop arm coming from lower right bonnet & second bolt-on
row louvers.
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