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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Panhard & Levassor Type A
Very interesting period photo received from
Christine Roach (UK)
of a car driven by her Great Grandfather. --
The car seems to have no registration so
is likely to be of an era before registrations were introduced in 1904.
The starting handle is offset which conforms to the info that it was a
Panhard & Levassor who started making cars in 1887 to 1967, then
made armored vehicles. This is Paris made cca
1903 Panhard & Levassor Type A
7HP twin cylinder Rear Entrance Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903 Darracq Triple
Phaeton
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
unusual car
on thiese vintage photo labelled as being taken in November 1904 and
the car is suggested to be a Darracq? -- This
one needed help from our veterans experts Ariejan Bos who advised it is
a cca 1903'4 Darracq Triple
Phaeton, probably the 24hp model. Made
from halfway 1903, and first with a honeycomb rad core. Characteristic for Darracq
ignition timer just on the left hand side of the crank handle.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Clement Talbot Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from James
Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his great great uncle. Photo is dated
1919.
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No registration visible to help in dating
and not much of the car visible either. However the hump on the
radiator and the cup handle at the back of the bonnet help to identify
it as Clement which had complicated French/UK connections. This would
seem to be British Kensington built ca1908
Clement Talbot Roi de Belges, with one
of bigger engine options.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Clement Talbot Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from James
Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his great great uncle. Photo is dated
1919.
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No registration visible to help in dating
and not much of the car visible either. However the hump on the
radiator and the cup handle at the back of the bonnet help to identify
it as Clement which had complicated French/UK connections. This would
seem to be British Kensington built ca1908
Clement Talbot Roi de Belges, with one
of bigger engine options.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910
Metallurgiqe 12CV Two-Seater
Another very interesting period photo received from
Christine Roach (UK)
photographed by her Great Grandfather. --
This is a fantastically detailed photo
which presumably would have been a glass negative as it enlarges to
show great detail. Very recognisable radiator but it also helps
enormously that it can be read from the wheelhubs that this is a prestigious
car from Belgium, a cca
1910 Metallurgiqe 12CV Two-Seater & unusual Dickey.
Popular make in UK, bodywork probably Vanden Plas.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Clement Bayard Tourer
Interesting period photo received from Greg
de Bourgknecht, Brookline MA (USA)
of his Grandfather Arnold Joseph de Bourgknecht in his Renault
in Switzerland around 1920. 'I have been told it is some kind of
Renault.' --
Regret this is not a Renault although it
does have a similar scuttle bonnet. It is however French and made by an
older company with complicated Anglo-French history. This is a cca
1911 Clement Bayard Tourer, from the
body/bonnet, probably the six cylinder AC6 C2.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1911
Humber 18'20 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the cars
on this photo and believes the car on the right is a 1911
Cadillac. But what is the other one?
Maybe British? -- Seems
on the right to be a cca 1911 Cadillac Model 30 Demi Tonneau. The one
on the left stuck deep in the mud with gents in white trousers trying
to tow it out (!) looks very much as if it was indeed a British cca
1911 Humber 18'20 Tourer. Ladies
calmly looking on; probably pre-women's lib days.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Flanders
20 Touring
One of a number of photos received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) taken
by Jim Brown of Goulburn nr Canberra (1880 - 1943), amateur
photographer and a member of the local motor club. This one is entitled
"Goulburn Motor Club Outing 1913". --
This is an American car manufactured in Detroit
Michigan by company operating 1910 to 1913. This is a cca
1912 Flanders 20 Touring. Walter
Flanders, ex-Ford 1908, formed EMF, left, started Flanders
1910, became Studebaker.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 Hudson Model 33 Torpedo
Another from a number of interesting
period photos sent by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Attached photo on a postcard of unknown probably WW1
vehicle in Winnipeg, Canada. Can you please identify
car? --
We can advise this car was built in Detroit, Michigan, USA started in
1909 by a department store owner. This is a cca
1912 Hudson Model 33 Three Door Torpedo.
The car was fitted with a Disco self starter which injected acetylene
into each cylinder, the gas to be ignited by the trembler coil.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Peugeot Torpedo
Another interesting period photo received from
Greg de Bourgknecht, Brookline MA (USA)
of his Grandfather Arnold Joseph de Bourgknecht. No idea of the
make or model of the car, or the year of the photo, but it was taken at
Bourgillon Switzerland. -- Another
French car from another early and still current French manufacturer
that employed Ettore Bugatti. This is a large executive car, and from
scuttle /body/ radiator is a cca
1913 Peugeot Torpedo, probably from
130 / 140 series.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Vauxhall 25 HP Staff Car
Another from a number of interesting
period photos sent by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Attached photo on a postcard of unknown WW1 vehicle
probably in France. This one is dated 1914. Can you please identify vehicle --
We can advise this a cca
1913 Vauxhall 25 HP Touring Car, 3,969
cc, also known as the D Type Staff Car. 4,500 were made specifically
for the British forces from 1912 until 1922. Saw service in Jerusalem,
Middle East and throughout the European theatres of WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Siddeley Deasy 18'24 Tourer
Very interesting period photo received from
Christine Roach (UK)
of a car driven by her Great Grandfather possibly taken round about
1920/3. Cannot find anything like it online. --
Registration London approximately February
1914. Company started 1906 by Captain Henry Deasy who then left the
company 1908, was replaced by JD Siddeley, from Wolseley. Became
Siddeley Deasy 1913 and became Armstrong Siddeley 1919 to 1960. This is
a
cca 1914 Siddeley Deasy 18'24 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1914 Mercedes Tourers
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia),
a collector of old photos. Can we identify this car used by
Keiser Wilhelm II on 1917 visit to Kurland? Second photo is from a friend
and is very same vehicle. --
Not same car, one is a Tulip Phaeton and
the other is a Tourer; one runningboard is straight and other has a
hollow for spare wheel. Both are chain drive, so are pre 1915. Both are Mercedes
pre the Benz merger. Lots of models round WW1, so not sure!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1914
Vauxhall B Type Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the cars
on this photo and believes the older car with the large
headlights on the right is a 1913 Cadillac. But what is the other one?
Maybe a Vauxhall A Type? -- Large flute scollops are evident on types A and B. Photo is very small
so not able to pull out
details, but the body seems to flow to the scuttle suggesting tapered
flutes rather than parallel flutes, so more likely to be a
cca
1914 Vauxhall B Type Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915
Ford Model T Touring
Interesting period photo received from Ian
Preston (Canada)
saying he is trying to find out what make and year this car might be.
The family in it lived in Dingwall, Scotland. Any assistance will be
greatly appreciated.
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Registration appears J 3252 which was
issued by Durham CC but no data available to help in dating; pre change
to letters PT in 1922. Car is relatively easy to identify having a
transverse front spring and angular bonnet pre-1916, gas lights pre
15, so cca
1915 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915
Ford Model T Touring
Another very interesting period photo received from
Christine Roach (UK)
photographed by her Great Grandfather, this one is believed to be
Talbot? --
Registration seems to be HJ 230 which is
Southend-on-Sea County Borough Council of late 1915. Car is from
Detroit, Michigan, recognisable via the transverse front spring and
angular bonnet, which make it pre-1916. It has a 'bill' on front
mudguards, and scuttle cowl. This ties in with the registration so car is
cca
1915 Ford Model T Turing.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Possibly 1917 AEC 3 Ton Dropside
Another from a number of interesting
period photos sent by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)"
Attached photo on a postcard of unknown WW1 vehicle probably in
France. This one is dated 1918. Can you please identify vehicle?" --
Not possible to give a positive identification but from the wheels and
radiator we think this could be a cca
1917 AEC 3 Ton Dropside Lorry. On the
side of the cab is "No 15 - ?? Aircraft Section No 6".
The Royal Flying Corps (RFC) was WW1 air arm of the British Army.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1922
Overland Model 4 Touring
Slightly blurry photo received from James
Baxendale (UK)
saying grandmother had suggested the cars as either a Wolseley 10 two
seater, or a new Ford "Tin Lizzie".
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Regret it is neither. Not a Wolseley 10
Two-Seater & Dickey. The car on the photo is American but is not a
Ford Model T either, although it has a transverse front spring, and
looks a bit similar. This has uniquely triangulated spring, covered by
an apron cover below rad, and is a RHD
cca 1922 Overland Model 4 27hp Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924
Amilcar CGS3 Skiff
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
unusual car
on this vintage photo taken in a 1920s Car Park in America? -- Seems
a small light car, has a French look about it, possibly a cyclecar with
a boattail back. Also has marine features on the scuttle. The bonnet
sides seem to have two sets of multiple louvres. Not a clear view of
the radiator but the giveaway is the Pegase emblem flying high above
the rad. This is a French cca
1924 Amilcar CGS3 Botattail Skiff.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927
Chrysler Model 50 Sedan
Looks like an inkjet printed photo received from Carl
Lee (UK) asking
if we could help him identify the car pictured with
his grandfather? Guess it is dated around 1925?
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is British and appears CT 9893 which was
Kesteven County Council, a subdivision part of the county of
Lincolnshire. The car is a relatively surprising American, from
Detroit, supplied soon after the company was formed in 1925. Tapered
bumper and the registration date this car as cca
1927 Chrysler Model 50 Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927
Hudson Essex Super Six
Another slightly blurry photo received from James
Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his great great uncle. Photo is dated
1928.
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Registration UY 2156 was issued by
Worcester County Council in late 1927. The car is American, Detroit, Michigan,
but might have been manufactured in Bretford London by the UK Branch of
Hudson Motors as an economy brand named Essex. The rad is Essex but
triangular badge appears Hudson. This is a cca 1927 Hudson Essex Super
Six Brougham.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Talbot Type AG 14'45 Tourer
Another very interesting period photo received from
Christine Roach (UK)
photographed by her Great Grandfather, this one is believed to be
Talbot? --
Regretfully no registration visible to aid
dating but the car is indeed a British Talbot of the late 1920s.
Fortunately Talbot had a 'one model' policy so this means that the car
is a
cca 1929 Talbot Type AG 14'45 Five Seat
Tourer. These Talbots were
built in Kensington, London. Company became STD Motors, and was later
purchased by Rootes 1935.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1932 Marmon 16 Sedan
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? Photo from Romanian
flea market ! --
Photo has a blemish on the top front of the radiator making it
difficult to determine if edge is angular or round. Slatted sidelight
appears very similar to a Cadillac but we think this is by another
American manufacturer of prestige cars, being cca
1932 Marmon 16 Close-coupled Sedan
made in Indianapolis Indiana to 1933.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
1935 Standard 12 Saloon
Another very fuzzy photo received from James
Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his family. This photo is a screen-grab from a
cine-film dated 1936 of the family car being loaded onto a ship. He
thinks it may be an Austin. --
Couple of our experts agree not an Austin.
Car has two sets of horisontal louvres, quite high up on the bonnet
side, has a slim boot and double suicide doors; hence no Austin
matches! From the features we feel however it may well be a cca
1935 Standard 12 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1954 Citroen
Light 15 Saloon
Enquiry and photo photo received from
Ken Cox (UK)
asking if we might be able to identify car taken at the Royal Standard
of England pub in Buckinghamshire he visited recently. He has surfed
the internet to the limit of his ability and hopes that perhaps some
local expertise can assist.
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Car is French with RHD so made for
export. UK made models in Slough have chevrons behind the grille.
Originally built in 1953 but registered in the UK in 2014, this
is a
cca 1954 Citroen Light 15 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1970 Jaguar XJ6 4.2L Saloon S1
Lovely photo
submitted by Annika Fuchs (Germany)
who is very fast becoming keen on old cars via her boyfriend Simon. Both were recently
in Pula in Istria, Croatia, and came across this lovely looking Jaguar
with local numberplates. Did we know what model it was? --
Relatively unusual car for Croatia and in exceptionally good condition.
From rear lights and wheels this is cca
1970 Jaguar XJ6 4.2 Litre Six Saloon; S1.
These were made 1968 to 1973, when they were replaced by
Series 2.
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