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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
Page 93
below relates to enquiries received
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1904
White Model D Steamer
Probably the worst photo we have ever
received came from Mike Statham, part of the Research Team at the Friends of Insole
Court, formerly Ely Court, Llandaff, near Cardiff in (Wales).
Appears to be a double exposure taken before WW1, found in archives of
Clarke's of Llandaff, in church restoration. --
Lot of photo restoration work was required to establish the outline of
the car to look for ID features, mesh side panels, which advised
it was a cca
1904 White Steam Car Model D.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1905
Humber 8'10 RE Tonneau
We recently held our Annual Dinner and were
very fortunate to have Nicholas Owen (UK), the
well know BBC/ITV Television personality, as our guest speaker. In his
latest book 'Days Like This' was a photo of his Grandpa Robert Owen who
was a Chauffeur in London, driving a car nobody had so far identified.
He wondered if we could.
-- With help
from one of our experts we were able to advise it was a
cca 1905 Humber 8'10 Rear Entrance Tonneau,
the radiator being used for only one year.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907
Daimler 35 Limousine
Gorgeous photo received from Alan Weeks,
Swythamley Historical Society (UK) trying
to identify the car taken outside the Royal Oak pub, in Rushton Spencer,
North Staffordshire. They wonder if Lady Brocklehurst is sitting
in the rear and whether it's a Daimler and of what date? --
Indeed a Daimler but difficult to date because
has
straight scuttle, so c1906/7, but has driver's
door and chunky mudguards of c1911. So possibly it is a cca
1907 Daimler 35 Limousine updated
later.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907
De Dion Bouton 8HP RE Tonneau
Very grainy photo received from Alan
Seccombe (UK)
asking if we could advise him of the date and type of vehicle. There are
two faint persons seated in the car. The registration number is T700.
The photo has come down the generations. Seems taken in the UK. --
Two people on car not visible. If the photo
was taken in the UK then the registration T 700 would have been issued
by Devon County Council in early 1907. The car is French and is a cca
1907 De Dion Bouton 8HP Rear Entrance Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908
REO 8'10 Runabout
Interesting photo received from Roger
Weaver of Elkhart (USA)
of Gr Gr Uncle, W. O. Hershberger, driving
a REO in Seward, Nebraska. Brother Harv was pioneer auto dealer in 1901,
having later Buick & REO dealership. Brothers grew up Amish in
Holmes County, Ohio and both embraced modern technology.
-- This is
indeed a REO and from shape of radiator area, and having running boards
this is a cca
1908 REO 8'10 Runabout. REO was formed
by RE Olds when he left Oldsmobile in 1904.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909
Delauney Belleville Town Car
Lovely photo received from Roger Bishop (UK)
who is trying
to identify a car on behalf of the Tourist Office of Verdun. Photo
shows a rather grand car with General P. Berdoulat beside it. Do we have
any ideas on the make. -- A
Number of cars had circular rads/bonnets but most had eccentric rad
surrounds. Only one, and for short time only, had them concentric, so
this is French cca 1909 Delauney Belleville Town
Car, poss the
24HP. One of most prestigious of cars, used by
European Royalty.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Wanderer 5'12 Puppchen
Our good friend Leif Holmberg (Sweden)
with whom we regularly correspond on identification of old car photos is
currently helping one of his local museums to
identify cars and motorcycles. He recognises the car on the right as the
Georges Roy but has forgotten the badge of the car on the left.
-- German
car built in Chemnitz by the 1896 bicycle maker Winklhofer &
Jaenicke; a cca
1913 Wanderer Puppchen made
1912-24. Has to be a relatively early car ; my guess the W1 of
1912-13.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914
Talbot 12HP Tourer
Photo passed to us by Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) on behalf of Ken Morris who has
inherited a number of old photo's featuring father-in-law who died aged
97 and many feature cars in the 1920-30's. Hoping to complete a family
history with as much detail as possible. --
The car was made in Kensington, London by company initially assembling
the French Clement. First car factory in Britain 1903. This is a WW1 era
cca 1914 Talbot Tourer, probably 12HP
or 15'20. Roots 1956, Chrysler
1967.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914
Chevrolet Royal Mail Roadster
Interesting photo received from Roger
Weaver of Elkhart (USA)
of grandfather c 1916 near Protection,
Kansas. Rumoured grandfather's first car and that it was an Apperson
Jack Rabbit. Grandfather became an auto mechanic and ran his own shop
for more than 30 years.
-- Not an
Apperson. Badge should have given it away. No windscreen stays, exposed
door hinges and electric lighting pinpoints this to a cca
1914 Chevrolet Royal Mail H2 Roadster,
two-seater, four cylinder 2.8L engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1917
Latil TAR & Renault Tank
Another lovely photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what this
vehicle is? Is it a Renault? --
Tank is Renault but lorry is not. Rather advanced French company which
had developed front wheel drive in 1897 and were making 4 x 4s in 1911.
This is a cca
1915 Latil TAR Artillery Tractor used
extensively in WW1, exported to Romania. Tank seems the
famous cca 1918 Renault FT17.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
Cadillac Model 57 Touring
Another set of lovely photographs from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what the car
is? --
Obviously American, as most cars received from Cicos of the period seem
to be. This one was made in Detroit by a company that was the remnants
of the 1901 Henry Ford Company. Ford left in 1902 but the company
survived as the Cadillac Automobile Company. This is cca1919
Cadillac Model 57 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1919
Studebaker EH Light Six Sedan
Glass negative photo received from Geffrey
Jewell from Detroit Michigan (USA)
saying he has an old glass negative
that he cannot identify. Can we help? The ring handles and the 7 lug
wheels seem to be definitive. Thank you in advance for any help you can
offer. -- One
of the few car makes not from Detroit but from the nearby South Bend.
Made by a company that started in electric vehicles in 1902. This
is a cca
1919 Studebaker EH Light Six Sedan.
Merged with Packard, closed 1963.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1921
Essex Four Touring
Slightly grainy photo received from Ron
Emrich from Philadelphia (USA) of
grandparents' car taken c1920 in Denver, Colorado. They made several
cross country journeys in this car, from Denver to eastern Nebraska,
eastern Iowa, Washington, New York, Boston, Niagara Falls, and Toronto. --
A slatted rad, six sided badge, and slanted
windscreen all suggest a
c1921 Essex Four Touring. However, the
windows along the side seem to be a sedan. Tourer fitted with
aftermarket 'California Top'!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923
Jewett Six Touring De Luxe
Interesting photo received from Sandy
Steele (USA)
saying he knows nothing about this
beautiful old car. The photo was found in old family photos assumed
taken in Saginaw Co., Michigan in the 20's. Would appreciate anything we
can tell him about it.
-- Relatively
unusual quality American car made by a sub of Paige Detroit Motors. This
is a cca
1923 Jewett Six Touring De Luxe, fitted
with a 50HP Continental engine. 100,000 Jewetts made, but reverted
to Page 6-45 name 1927.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
FIAT 501 Torpedo
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
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This seems to be a cca
1923 FIAT 501 Torpedo photographed in
Cinisi in 1928. Cinisi is near Palermo Airport in the north west
of Sicily and is known for its dairy festival and parade
which has papier mache floats.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924
Singer 10 Two-Seater
Photo passed to us by Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) on behalf of Ken Morris who has
inherited a number of old photo's featuring father-in-law who died aged
97 and many feature cars in the 1920-30's. Hoping to complete a family
history with as much detail as possible. --
The car was made in Coventry, England by company started in 1874 making bicycles.
Then made motorcycles. First car in 1905. This is a cca
1924 Singer 10 Two-Seater
1100cc. Became Roots 1956 and Chrysler in 1967.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924
Essex Two-door Coach
Another interesting photo received from Sandy
Steele (USA)
saying he knows nothing about this
beautiful old car. The photo was found in old family photos assumed
taken in Saginaw Co., Michigan in the 20's. Would appreciate anything we
can tell him about it.
-- Economy
version of the Hudson. A slatted rad, six sided badge, very similar to
another car on this page. This is a cca
1924 Essex Coach Two-door, fitted with
new six cylinder engine. 1.13 million sold by 1932, when name
dropped.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925 Hudson Super Six Charabanc
Lovely photo received from Andrea Burt (Australia)
taken in New South Wales, in 1925.
Can we identify the vehicle. No further info on the photo.
-- Looks to
have been a grand big
car with triangular badge on the wheelhubs indicating the American
Hudson company. The Charabanc body may have been built in Oz but the
chassis is cca 1925 Hudson Super
Six, similar to small trucks and fire
engines made during the period. Photos on the web of similar
Hudson vehicle in Eastern Oz.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Chrysler 70 Sedan
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. Tourer with a
fabric-covered body. Although he purchased the print in Germany the car
looks American. Can we advise what
it is? --
We agree it is American and we think it is a cca
1927 Chrysler 70 Sedan. It has drum
headlight and bodyline running down behind the rear passenger
window which turns backwards; on 1926 cars goes forward.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928
New Imperial 350cc
Grainy photo from Steve Dowding (UK) of
Grandfather George Hunt on his
motorcycle, probably in Sonning, Berks; year/model ? The registration
indicates Reading. -- Registration
is actually Berkshire County Council, early 1928. Our motorcycle
experts Vince and Moody agree this is a cca
1928 New Imperial 350cc OHV Model 6.
New Imperial started 1901 and closed 1938. Used Precision and JAP
engines but from 1926 their own. Innovative, later developing
unit construction engines.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1931
Opel 1.2 Two-door Saloon
Recent photo received from Derek Squires (Spain)
saying he saw this car moving away in
Velez-Malaga, Spain, today and has been on Google for hours trying
to identify it. Perhaps a Peugeot but doors are wrong, no filler cap and
the top of the grille appears to be slightly arched.
-- Not French
but an American influenced car built in Germany by an American company,
General Motors. From the front of roof, this is a cca
1931 Opel 1.2 Two-door Saloon, 22HP
1193 cc side-valve 4-cylinder 4-stroke.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly
c1914 Palladium 18'30 Tourer
Our good friend Leif Holmberg (Sweden)
with whom we regularly correspond on identification of old car photos is
currently helping one of his local museums to
identify cars and motorcycles. Any idea what this one is?
-- Three of
our experts seem to agree that this is an unusual British car, and it
is therefor starnge to find it with a continental body in Sweden. Looks
big so we think this is possibly a cca 1914 Palladium 18'30
Tourer by Palladium Autocars Ltd, in Putney;
London, 1911-'25.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
1925 Opel 4'14 Tourer
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. Tourer with a
fabric-covered body. Although he purchased the print in Germany the car
looks French. Can we advise what
it is? --
We thought French too because of the Michelin Comfort tyres like on my
Citroen 5CV, but right hand drive? 5CV's competitor was the RHD Opel
Laubfrosch, and we think this could be the c1925
Opel 4'14 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Perhaps
1929 Magnat Dobron M'cycle
Puzzling photo received from Ruddy
Sommereyns (Belgium) of a motorcycle
found as a negative in a local fleamarket. He does not know what brand
it is ... in the background there is a car visible but pity it is not
very clear. -- Unfortunately
we cannot be much help on either. Our motorcycle experts confirm it is a
continental manufacturer but cannot be sure which. Our Chas Moody
thinks this could be a French cca
1929 Magnat Dobron 350 cc
?? Car is not visible enough to try
to identify.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown
'Twenties' Sports car
Puzzling photo received from Joćo Ferreira (Portugal)
asking if we can help him to
identify this sports car? The photo was taken in the early
thirties near the recently built " Casino do Estoril".
-- The
Casino seems to have been built c1916 and WW1 intrigues were the
inspiration of Ian Fleming's 007 Casino Royale. Very popular tourist
attraction and holds the Moto GP championship race. We have circulated
this photo amongst our experts, but nobody has provided any answer.
Guard does not help.
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