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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906 Daimler 28 Landaulette &Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled' Daimlers in Blackpool.'.
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cars have the tie rod ahead of the front axle so pre-1906; by 1906'7
they were behind the axle. Both have a straight bottom to the rad
rather than curved so also pre 1906. Left car has 12 spokes. They look
very similar in size, both being a mid range car so would be a cca
1905'6 Daimler 28HP Landaulette on
left and a cca 1905 Tourer on right.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Enfield 15HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle posted on an NZ Facebook, Grand Hotel Aucland. Is it an Enfield,
and what date. --
Distinctive badge of a sideways cannon
as used by Royal Enfield bicycles, motorcycles and cars. This type of
radiator shape was used for only a short period on the cca
1907 Enfield Tourer which came in a 15HP
and a 25HP version. Soon after in 1908, Enfield was taken over by
Alldays & Onions becoming Enfield-Alldays.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Enfield 15HP Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. Newtown Motor Garage, Pool Road, Newtown, Powys,
Wales. It looks like another Merioneth registration. A distinctive
radiator, but what? -- Humber
suggested, but no again. Cannot make out registration, but
low number, so early. Distinctive rad indeed from a company that constantly
changed shape of rad, including circular. Confirmed by Ariejan Bos as a
cca 1907 Enfield, probably 15HP Tourer..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Daimler 35HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle posted on an NZ Facebook, Grand Hotel Aucland. Is it a
Daimler, and what date. --
Indeed car from the British Daimler company founded in London 1896 who
bought right to use German Daimler name. Daimler made numerous engine
size models in period but overall size of the car did not alter much
visually. Largish size car so could be 45HP model but more likely is
cca 1907 Daimler 35HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Humber 10'12 Tourer
While investigating the above car we came
across a very similar photograph of a car with a similar registration
on the Old Photos of Bangor website awaiting identification. --
Yes, this one is a Humber ! Registration FF 53 is Merioneth County Council
in Wales, late 1907. Bangor is just up the road by Menai Bridge to Anglesey.
Humber started in 1887 with bicycles, motorbikes and then cars,
initially at Beeston, then Coventry. This is a cca
1907 Humber 10'12 Tourer. Became
Rootes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Panhard-Levassor 18hp Limousine
While searching for answers we often come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which we put aside for later
study and investigation. Interesting UK photo requiring
identification. -- This
is from a French company initially in 1890 making cars under German
Daimler licence, making own car in 1891. Became one of France's main
car producers, turned to military work and taken over 2012 by Renault,
Has chain drive so probably c1908
Panhard & Levassor 18HP Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Probably
c1909 NAG Sightseeing-Bus
Another puzzling photo received from Tom
Cosens from Yorkshire (UK) of an old car
he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of postcard
curiosities on which he has no other background, but which are needing
identification. -- Really
lovely photo of a three level mall 'sightseeing bus'. Solid roof,
beautifully built coachwork body and not a charabanc. Chain Drive,
multiple wheelnuts at back and front and cup handles for the Bonnet.
For
full article on the process of identification click
here.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909
Belsize 14'16 Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. Is this a Humber? --
No. Photo is from Bangor.
Registration FF 82 is Merioneth County Council in Wales 1909.
Bangor is just up the road near the Menai Bridge to Anglesey. British
car, manufactured at Belsize Woks, Manchester, by company initially
Marshall & Co making cars in 1897. Changed name to Belsize Motors
in 1906. A medium sized car so os likely a
cca 1909 Belsize 14'16 Tourer,
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Belsize 14'16 Open Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled 'On holiday'. -- Written
on the photo is Queen's Hydro Hotel, Blackpool. It is still there on
the South Promenade but has a modern facade to the ground floor. The
car registration is FR 474 which is Blacklool CBC (started Oct
1904) but no dating data available. The car was built 50 miles
away in Manchester and as has a curved scuttle so later cca 1909
Belsize 14'16 Open Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Sunbeam 14'20 Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled Blackpool 1909. Suggestion a
Sunbeam 12'16? -- Certainly
looks a Sunbeam. Photo is marked as 'J Farrer & Son -1909'' perhaps
machinery manufacturer in Sheffield? Car has no chain drive and has a
rounded scuttle. If the photo date is correct then this has to be the
Coalten designed cca
1909 Sunbeam 14'20 Tourer (later
16'40) or perhaps the smaller later 12'16.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 De Dion
Bouton 12HP Tourer
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell
(UK) seems to be on the lookout for
unusual cars and wondered if we knew what this one was, Found this in
in an old tourist guide book...any ideas? --
First thoughts was De Dion Boutomn but odd
dumbirons. Checked with our Ariejam Bos who had been meaning to do a
search on De Dion dumbirons with front shackles and confirmed De Dion
used them sporradically 1907-11. Biggish car with front doors so
probably a cca 1909 De Dion
Bouton 12HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Minerva Model CC 38HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
on an NZ Facebook, 'c1914-19 Nurses from the Convalescence Hospital
Springs Flat Whangarei in a Minerva in Bank Street. Model? -- Indeed
a Belgian Minerva quite popular in Britain so known in the 'colonies'.
The wave of the bonnet goes alonf the full way, so pre 1912. The
Scuttle has a bulbous section leading to a flat drop to bonnet so after
1910. This makes it ca1912
Minerva Model CC 38HP Knight Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914 Calcott 10.5 HP Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was headed Cars in Cheddar Gorge. -- Cheddar
famous for the cheese and Gorge for Britain's oldest human skeleton
from 9000 years ago. Car too tiny to be fully sure between Standard and
Calcott, but our money is on the Calcott with broader bump and rounded
mudguards. This would seem to be a cca
1914 Calcott 10.5 HP Tourer. Only one
size model made before World War 1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Sunbeam Sporting 12'16 Tourer
Fascinating but very puzzling photo
received from Phillip Sampson (UK)
asking if we could please identify the car if possible. Photo was taken
in Cheltenham UK c1916. --
Familiar looking vehicle but very strange
radiator. Car suggested Sunbeam, and indeed identified by Ariejan Bos
as a
cca 1914 Sunbeam Sporting 12'16 Tourer,
from an in-depth article in The Automobile February 2001. Better
reference system than mine!! Based on Dieppe 1912 Coup de l'Auto
winning car. Only 100 cars made.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
1921 Grey Dort Four Touring
Fascinating and puzzling photo
received from Cathy Stewart (Australia)
curator for the Milton Ulladulla Historical Society (MUHS), on the
South Coast of NSW, asking if we could date and identify car. --
Surprisingly difficult. Sidelights on
wings confuse as does the rounded shape of the top of the rad, but we
now think this could be the Canadian built version of an American car.
Shape of scuttle and bonnet suggest earliest date of cca 1921/22 and
would make this Ontario built Grey
Dort Four 30hp.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
c1921 Harroun AA2 Touring
While searching for answers we often come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which we put aside for later
study and investigation. This one we had not been able to identify at
the time. -- The
photo is titled “Hough-McRae Motor Co”and in background is 'Harroun
Cars'. Roy Harroun was the first winner of Indianapolis 500 and later
went to make his own car. He manufactured about 2,000 cars
1917-21. For
the full article on the process of identification click
here.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Cadillac Custom 314 Touring
Another puzzling photo received from Tom
Cosens from Yorkshire (UK) of an old car
he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of postcard
curiosities on which he has no other background, but which need
identification. Nash? -- This
is a large car with louvres set back from 'widows peak' rad and
multiple front hubnuts. Mark Dawber confirmed from his
'80 Years of Cadillac' this is cca
1926 Cadillac Custom Series 314 Touring Car
(Fisher bodied) on longer 138"wheelbase. Price $3250.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927
Fiat 509a Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Georges
Truffaut (Belgium)
of a vehicle he is trying to identify. " Could you
please help me to identify the cars in attached picture? Left ones are
Minerva. All cars have Belgian licence plates --
The car on the right
(4) is a cca
1927 Fiat 509a Tourer. The 509
announced in 1924, replaced the 501 in 1925 and spec changed to 509a in
1926. At the end of the production run in 1929 over 90,000 cars built
including spors car models, taxi cabs & commercials.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1930 Thornycroft A2'FB4 Flatbed
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled 'Flooding.'. -- Rather
apt photo for what has been happening in Britain for the last month.
Nothing new although floods caused my melting snow is not normally a
British problem; rain, yes! Swinton-under-Whychwood is near
Oxford and lorry has Birmingham reg of 1930. The lorry is a Basingstoke
built cca
1930 Thornycroft A2'FB4, who
started in steam vehicles in 1896.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932
Standard Big Nine Saloon
Another puzzling photo received from from Georges
Truffaut (Belgium)
of a vehicle he is trying to identify. " Could you
please help me to identify the cars in attached picture? Left ones are
Minerva. All cars have Belgian licence plates --
Second from right
(3) is a British car built by company founded in Coventry 1903.
Car has twin blade bumper, shortish bonnet, no badge bar, wing mounted
headlamps and high level windscreen wipers so is most likely a 1932
Standard Big Nine Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1934 Chenard Walcker Aigle 8
Lovely photo received from Peter
Klein (UK) taken
in Nice in 1934 of what seems to be a Chenard et
Walcker Aigle 8, but wit bodywork he was not able to match. Had no
reply from C&W website so is trying us. -- Not
specialists on French coachbuilders but C&W cars were bodied by
many renowned companies. This has wire wheels and bulbous rad
suggesting a coachbuilt cca
1934 Aigle 8 14CV Decapotable, similar
to Monte model but later aftermarket mascots and Super-Aigle
bumpers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1964
Mercedes Benz 190 Fintail Saloon
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by Andrew
Kostinn from Moscow (Russia)
from a batch showing a vehicls in the Middle East, dates and places
unknown. Is it possible to identify this car? -- Slightly
too new for our sphere of expertise but the Mercedes badge and 'fins'
on the wings tell us it is a 1964
Mercedes Benz 190 Fintail Saloon. This
was part of the W110 range being either a 190c with a 1.9L petrol
engine, or a 190Dc with a 2.0L diesel engine. Replaced by 200 in 1965.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1969
Buick LeSabre Custom Sedan
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by Andrew Kostinn from
Moscow (Russia)
from a batch showing a vehicls in the Middle East, dates and places
unknown. Is it possible to identify this car? -- Slightly
too new for our sphere of expertise so we contacted our 'Americans
Expert' Mark Dawber who advises it is a
cca 1969 Buick LeSabre Custom Sedan
(model 45469). The Custom has different tail lights to standard model.
Made 1968-76 with 5.5L V8 engine. 8th series ended in 2005,
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1970
Buick Electra 225 Hardtop
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by Andrew Kostinn from
Moscow (Russia)
from a batch showing a vehicls in the Middle East, dates and places
unknown. Is it possible to identify this car? -- Slightly
too new for our sphere of expertise so we contacted our 'Americans
Expert' Mark Dawber who advises it is a
cca 1970
Buick Electra 225 Four Door Hardtop. Difficult to tell from front
whether a 'standard' (mod 48257) or a Custom (mod 48457). Part of
General Motors, still going.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1972
Lincoln Continental Sedan
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by Andrew
Kostinn from Moscow (Russia)
from a batch
showing a vehicls in the Middle East, dates and places unknown. Is it possible to identify
this car? -- Slightly
too new for our sphere of expertise so we contacted our 'Americans
Expert' Mark Dawber who advises it is a
cca 1972
Lincoln Continental. The 1973 is near identical but he thinks this is a
1972. Lincoln, founded 1917, is the luxury division of Ford, bought
1922, to compete Cadillac.
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