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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1901 Corre Voiturette
Our (NZ) correspondent
Mark, and his oppo Tim, have found a fascinating source of ancient
photos / old postcards of old cars on an Italian Ebay website, for sale
by interposter. "None of the photos were identified so great
chance for sending to the SVVS Help Pages for ID when time
permits".
-- This
is one of two photos of the same vehicle, 700 photos apart. Not
many cars had side radiator panels and this is a rare one, a
French
cca 1901 Corre Voiturette
using a De Dion engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906
Alcyon 7HP Voiturette
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Photo is titled 'Le Rapide du Lucbon Bains, Busteni, Aout 1909".
Not an easy one at all and the only answer came from our Ariejan Boss
in Holland. He thinks Le Rapide is a cca
1906 Alcyon 7HP Two-seater Voiturette
having a single cylinder 950cc engine. Started 1890 with
bicycles, 1902 motorcycles, cars 1906.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Piccolo 5hp Vis-a-Vis
Our (NZ) correspondent
Mark, and his oppo Tim, have found a fascinating source of ancient
photos / old postcards of old cars on an Italian Ebay website, for sale
by interposter. "None of the photos were identified so great
chance for sending to the SVVS Help Pages for ID when time
permits".
-- Unusual
German car built by A Ruppe & Sohn, Apolda, which has an encased fan
to keep the air cooled V2 engine working. Extended runningboard so
is a cca
1906 Piccolo 5hp Vis-a-Vis.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Martini 20'24 Roi-des-Belges
Lovely photo received from our regular
correspondent Mark (New Zealand)
of a car he thought might be a Metallurgique of about 1906. --
Not an easy one but doubtful on Metallurgique. Metallurgique were
Belgian and by 1906 they had the distinctive V radiator. One of our
sages did some research and determined that this is a Swiss
cca 1906 Martini 20'24 Roi-des-Belges Double Phaeton.
Export markets included France, England, Russia, North/South America,
New Zealand and Egypt.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Talbot 20'24 Roi-de-Belges
Lovely photo received from our regular
correspondent Mark (New Zealand)
of a car he thought might be Talbot of 1906. --
Definitely a Talbot from the catches holding the bonnet sides but concerned
by number of hubnuts on front wheel as to model type. One of the bigger
ones so probably a cca
1907 Talbot 20'24 Roi-de-Belges Tourer.
Imported Clement Talbots but made in Kensington London England from
1906. Became STD, then Rootes, then Chrysler, then Peugeot -
Citroen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 De Dion Bouton Double Phaeton
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Photo is titled 'G hergani, 4 Avril, 1910" with local villagers in
national costume. Lovely photo. A number of cars had a transverse rear
spring including the French De Dion Bouton. Our Ariejan Boss in Holland
thinks this is indeed a cca
1908 De Dion-Bouton Double Phaeton.
Could be 12'14HP model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Darracq RR Double Phaeton
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
This is a French car made in Suresnes, Paris by Alexandre Darracq who
started with Gladiator bycicles in 1891 which he sold to Clement.
Darracq gave birth to Talbot in the UK and to Alfa Romeo in Italy and
was third largest French car maker. This is a cca
1908 Darracq Model RR Double Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1908 Talbot/Brasier/Pipe
Puzzling interesting photo received from
David Skilton (UK)
saying the photo is from c. 1912, taken in the UK, possibly
Warwickshire. The chap on the right, infull uniform, his grandfather,
Harold David Skilton (1893-1965), then working as a chauffeur. --
Two of our wise sages think this is a 6 cyl Talbot
and many features do indeed suggest it is. My primary doubt is there
seems to be a hump on the top of the bonnet a la Brasier
or Pipe. Sages think it is a
reflection of overhead spars. Dunno?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Pilain Type 4 Tourer
Our (NZ) correspondent
Mark, and his oppo Tim, have found a fascinating source of ancient
photos / old postcards of old cars on an Italian Ebay website, for sale
by interposter. "None of the photos were identified so great
chance for sending to the SVVS Help Pages for ID when time
permits".
-- A
Pilain that is not a Rolland-Pilain. Francois Pilain built cars in Lyon
(S.A.P. :1901 to 1920) while nephew in Tours (RP), no
connection. Scuttle says this is a cca
1909 Pilain Type 4 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Deasy JDS Torpedo
Link received from our regular
correspondent Mark (New Zealand)
of a photograph on the NZ website transpress
showing 'a car in England 1915'. Mark said he thought it was a Siddeley
Deasy but was not sure of the model. --
Not a Siddeley Deasy but the earlier
cca 1910 Deasy JDS Torpedo Phaeton.
Identification feature is the bonnet without swaging and panels. Deasy
Cars started in 1906. Deasy left in 1908, replaced by John Siddeley,
previously of Siddeley Cars, Wolseley, hence re-name.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Belsize 10'12 Two-seater
Lovely photo submitted by Andrew Moore of
Linconshire (UK)
relating to a series of handwritten books by an unnamed author JHD about
his travels from Tilbury to Calcutta and back on tea clipper SS Manipur.
Car in photo belonged to captain's uncle.
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This car was made in Clayton, Manchester, by Marshall & Co who started
in bicycles and went into cars in 1897 with car similar to Hurtu. In
1901 named car after factory. Major maker gone by 1925. Seems a
cca 1912 Belsize 10'12 Two-seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Probably
1920 Joswin 28'95 Tourer
Another puzzling photo posted on the AACA website,
this by Jaap Bruynzeel (Holland), saying this is a photo
taken in June 1921, some 50 km from Amsterdam - Holland. He assumes this
car is European but it might be American? --
Imposing expensive car which would have been coachbuilt with a powerful
engine. We therefore think this is probably a cca 1920'1 Joswin 28'95 Tourer
made in Berlin Germany generally having Szawe
bodies /Mercedes engines. Joswin were made 1920 to 23 .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921
Fiat 501 Torpedo
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
This is an Italian car made in Turin by the Fabrica Italiana Automobili
Torino. The shape of the logo on the radiator surround suggests this
car could not have been made later than 1921, however. It seems to have
front brakes which suggests it may have been; appears to be a cca
1921 FIAT 501 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Humber 11.4 Two-Seater
Photo sent in by Richard Sager (UK)
saying simply: "Wonder if you could help identify my grandmother's
car in attached pic taken in lancashire ?"
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Immediate thought was Humber but the rad around the badge area was
sloping like Peugeot. Out Humber expert Tony Oakes advised indeed a
Humber. Not so easy to determine the exact model, but probably a cca
1921/24 Humber 11.4 HP Two-seater.
Sidelight type and no dumbirons bar suggested probably not the later
12/25HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Chevrolet 490 Touring
A rather damaged photo received from Tom
from (Canada)
saying: "Here is an old photo taken in the Vancouver
area about 1920 or so. Can you identify the car? I think it might be a
Bentley. Thank would be great! --
We have repaired and tinted the photo and can advise that regretfully
it is not a Bentley, nor is it British. American car possibly built in
Canada by the McLaughlin/GM of Canada factory in Oshawa. Bumper bar, so
this would seem to be a
cca 1921 Chevrolet 490 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Wolseley 11'22 Tourer
Photo sent to us by David Montgomery (UK)
saying: " The attached photo shows my maternal grandfather
standing proudly next to what I believe was the first car he owned. It
would have been taken around 1930. My mother, now 96, is sitting in the
middle rear. I've done a bit of research and have eliminated most of the
common makes."
-- MH
8697 is a Middlesex County Council registration issued 7'24 to 8'25, no
front brakes, so this would be a cca
1924 Wolseley 11'22 Four-seat Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Rugby Six Pickup
An interesting photo received from Terry
Walls (UK)
saying the photo was taken in the early 1950s in NSW Australia. He has
been trawling the web. Hudson and Essex 'Super Six' models don't appear
to match radiator shape. --
Mark Dawber advises American car made by William Crapo Durrant after
leaving GM in 1921 and starting Durant Motors making the Star car.
Export models could not use Star name in the Commonwealth because of UK
Star, so this is cca1926
Rugby Six Pickup.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927
Bignan Tank
Another interesting photo via Iñigo
Agirre (Spain) from
a Facebook group devoted to history of San Sebastian Desaparecida in
Spain. Could we advise make of vehicle? This one is Kutxateka /Foto
Car/Ricardo Martin. 1927. --
This type of racing car body is called a 'tank' and a number of
manufacturers in the early 1920s made one. Initially thought Bugatti 32
but one of our experts suggests it is one of two French 1927 Bignan,
effectively EHP with blown Bignan engine, 112 mph. Gone 1931.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
1929 Rosengart LR2 Sport
Another photograph received from Georges
Truffaut (Belgium) from
postcards which he is trying to identify. Photographed probably in
France, this is believed to be an Austin. --
Wheels are Austin type but Austin Sevens were also made by BMW, Bantham
and Rosengart. Our Sevens specialist John Caddy has determined that a
very similar car was manufactured by Rosengart Paris as a
cca 1929 Rosengart LR2 Aerodynamic Sports,
748cc, so this could be variant or a copied special.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Opel 4'20 Cabriolet
Link received from our regular
correspondent Mark (New Zealand)
of a photograph on the AACA website posted by mikethecat wondering if
it was an Essex. --
The car does have an American look. Essex was a division of the Hudson
Motor Co of Detroit, but the car is neither the Essex nor Hudson. This
is a car manufactured in Germany and is a cca 1930 Opel 4'20 Cabriolet
similar to previous on these pages. 4'20 was last development of the 4
PS Laubfrosch 4'12, copy of the Citroen 5CV.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936
Buick Sedan
Lovely photo submitted by Robert
Hoppel of Texas (USA)
of his grandfather with him (right) and
brother (left) somewhere along the road in Holland (where they lived).
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This one took a bit of time and remains partially puzzling. Everybody
including our friends at the AACA in the US agree this is a cca
1936 Buick Sedan
except for the fact that nobody can find one with downfacing wipers
from the roof. Suggestions of a Mc Lauglin Buick or a European made
Buick did not resolve problem!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1955
Isuzu Hillman Minx Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a
classic Japanese film 'Harikomi' (Stakeout) made in 1958, where cars are being investigated
by IMCDB. Story involves a couple of policemen watching a woman
from a hot and dingy hotel room and who may be the ex-lover of a murder
suspect. --
This car is not at first sight what it may seem. Looks very British but
is actually a car made in Japan by Isuzu Mototors under licence from
Rootes Group UK being cca1955
Isuzu Hillman Minx Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1956
Panhard Dyna Z5 Luxe
Lovely photo submitted by Anikka Fuchs (Germany)
who is rapidly becoming keen on old cars via her boyfriend. Currently
working in France, she snapped this interesting collectors piece in the
streets of Salies de Béarn. What is it?
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French car made by one of the world's oldest auto manufacturers making
engines in 1876. Has quaterlights so is probably a cca
1956 Panhard Dyna Z5 Luxe. Some Luxe
cars and all to USA did not have the central foglight. Became Citroen
and now Renault.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
cca 1919 Road Tanker
Another interesting photo via Iñigo Agirre (Spain) from
a Facebook group devoted to history of San Sebastian Desaparecida in
Spain. Could we advise make of vehicle? This one is Kutxateka /Fondo
Foto Car/Ricardo Martin; A truck of the city cleaning service. San
Sebastian 1915. -- Similar
bonnets were used by European Manufacturers including Benz Gagenau. Unusually
large and ribbed wheelhubs do not seem to be common to the usual makes
of trucks of the period. HELP
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown 1920s
Hispano Suiza Special
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Our wise sages have scratched heads over this one and apart from
agreeing this is cca 1920s Hispano Suiza Aero Engined Special, have not
been able to nail it any more precisely. Likely a one off. A number of
specials were built from redundant WW1 Hispano HS8A V8 11.8L
engines. Wolseley had licence.
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