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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1895 Duryea Motor Wagon
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? Photo from Romanian
flea market ! --
Very early car which was an attraction at the Barnum & Bailey
Circus touring America and would have been the first 'horseless carriage'
many people would have seen. Photographed in York in 1896 on Penn
Common. This is a
cca 1895 Duryea Motor Wagon 4HP. The
Duryea Brothers built their first car 1893 in Springfield, Mass.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Napier 16HP Tonneau
Very interesting period photo received from
our regular contributor Tom Cosens, Yorkshire, (UK)
asking if we could help with this one which he thinks is a French
Panhard et Levassor. --
This one started a lively debate amongst
our experts. It looked to me much like a Star but our specialists
doubted it. Ariejan Bos suggests from the details of the visible
rear breaking system that this is probably a British cca
1903 Napier 16HP Tonneau, similar to
one on our previous Help Page HP133.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1903 Gladiator Tonneau
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on facebook, thought it was a Panhard
& Levassor but wondered what model this one was. --
Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos
advises this is a French cca
1903 Gladiator Tonneau, probably 12HP,
made in by Clement Gladiator. Known make in England but the photo has
an embossing which suggests Tibbitt (?) Wellington, suggesting New
Zealand. UK 'W' registration was Sheffield, although there is a
Wellington in Somerset.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
Humberette 5 HP Two-Seater
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK)
of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. G. was the Managing Director of
Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills. Ged has subsequently found other
photos of early cars but he has no idea of what they were. --
Very pixly contact-strip photo,
which we tried to improve, of only the very front of the car but the
bonnet is indicative of a
cca 1904 Humber Humberette 5 HP
Two-Seater.
Humberettes came 1903 to 1912, 5, 6.5, 7.5HP single, - to 8.7HP twins.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Daimler 28HP Tonneau
Earlier photo received from Ged Moss (UK)
of his G.Grandfather's 1905 Star. G. was the Managing Director of
Rotherham Forge & Rolling Mills. Ged has later found other
photos of early cars but he has no idea of what they were. --
From another row of cars where only the
fist one has enough detail to work on; and a very impressive one to
look at. This is a cca
1905 Daimler 28HP Side Entrance Tonneau.
By then Daimler had the Royal Warrant and was part of Birmingham Small
Arms (BSA).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Minerva Type M Landaulette
Another interesting glass negative received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia)
which was labeled "Miss Faithfull's car", owned by Florence
E. M. Faithfull (1899-1992) daughter of owners of sheep-grazing
Springfield Station, near Goulburn. --
I thought possibly French Mors because of
apparent bonnet crease but this is only a 'wave'. Ariejan Bos suggests
from the distinctive wheel hubs the car is Belgian prestige cca
1908 Minerva Limousine-Landaulette,
likely the type 'M'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Bianchi 20'30 Roi de Belges
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo on Ebay and has been researching it. Looks
a 1914 photoshop exercise! Babies on a German car ? --
Interesting
photo of a lovely big car full of children and babies. Closer scrutiny
suggests all 'children' appear to be the same girl at different ages,
possibly the photographer's daughter? Car is not German but is Italian,
being a cca
1909 Bianchi 20'30 Roi de Belges. Slightly
later cars had bluish not white coloured radiator badge.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Brush Runabout
One of a number of photos received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) taken
by Jim Brown
of
Goulburn nr Canberra (1880 - 1943), amateur photographer and a member
of the local motor club. Taken Sunday 18 May 1913 outside the
Commercial Hotel in Collector, NSW. --
Unusual American car made in Michigan
recognisable from the wooden front axle and coil springs on four corners
as a cca
1911 Brush Runabout, probably the
Model E. Motorbikes are too small to identify.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Talbot Colonial Tourer
One of a number of photos received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) taken
by Jim Brown
of
Goulburn nr Canberra (1880 - 1943), amateur photographer and a member
of the local motor club. Entitled: Western Suburbs Rugby League Team -
Saturday 8 August 1914 in Auburn Street, Goulburn.
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Lovely photo of a lovely British car of
French Clement Bayard origin later all- British Clement-Talbot. This is
a cca
1911 Talbot, probably a 25HP Colonial Tourer.
Became STD Motors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1911 Reading Model 40 Touring
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) found this photo and has been researching it, also via
AACA, where suggestions have been American Austin, Cartercar, Columbia,
Autocar etc.. --
We asked our veterans expert Ariejan Bos
who advises, rare indeed, an American cca 1911 Reading Model 40
Touring, 4 cyl 40hp, by Middleby, Reading PA, 1910/13. Records show
identical shape radiator, mudguards/bills, & matching wheel hubs.
Radiator filler tube/cap not very clear, match.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Mitchell Model 5-4 Touring
Another from a number of interesting
period photos sent by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify vehicle on a Southport or
Bradford postcard; registration AK 2226 ?--
Reg is Bradford. Initial gut feeling, a Humber, but wrong large high
radiator with starting handle touching the rad, no forward tie rod, the
American style demountable wheels, rounded type bulkhead etc. Bedford
Buick? Our Ariejan Bos confirmed American but cca
1913 Mitchell, probably 5-4
Touring 40HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914 Reo The Fifth Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to
identify old vehicles we often come across photographs on websites
where they are asking for identification or have wrongly identified, so
we have a go !
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In this case it was suggested it could be
a 1914 Oldsmobile or 1929s Durant. Part of the reason is that the photo
was very grained and bad, so we first repaired it. This shows that the
radiator top has an overhang, and it has coned hubcaps, which point it
to being a cca
1914 Reo The Fifth Tur.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Mitchell 7-6 Touring
One of a number of photos received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) taken
by Jim Brown
of
Goulburn nr Canberra (1880 - 1943), amateur photographer and a member
of the local motor club. Entitled: 4. Outside Goulburn Railway Station
- possibly arrival of NSW Governor, Sir Gerald Strickland, 25 April
1914. --
Lovely big fashionable American car from a
horse wagon and motorcycle maker in Racine, Wisconsin, cca 1914
Mitchell 7-6 Touring, making cars 1903-23. Nash bought
factory.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Indian Model F Big Twin
One of a number of photos received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) taken
by Jim Brown
of
Goulburn nr Canberra (1880 - 1943), amateur photographer and a member
of the local motor club. Sending two motorcycle pictures date not
known, possibly at a rally in 1914. Definitely in Goulburn. --
Popular American motorcycle made in
Springfield, Massachusetts from 1901. This one, dating is from no front
to front mudguard, is a cca
1914 Indian Model F 7HP Big Twin V 998cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918 Studebaker
Light Four Touring
Couple glass negatives received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) of Jim Brown
of Goulburn nr Canberra (1880-1943), amateur photographer and a member
of the local motor club. Had 1935 Austin 12?
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Not Austin, not even European but American
from South Bend, Indiana, manufacturers in 1902 of Electric cars.
Started making petrol cars in conjunction with Graford and later EMF,
and made own in 1912. This one is theirs, a cca
1918 Studebaker Model SH Light Four Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1922 Citroen 5CV C2 Torpedo
Couple glass negatives received from
Margaret Kearns of Goulburn, (Australia) of Jim Brown
of
Goulburn nr Canberra (1880 - 1943), amateur photographer and a member
of the local motor club. Had in 1935 Austin 12?
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Not Austin but similar
car to mine. Bit earlier, with strange
body, low headlights, unusual mudguards and strange position of spare
wheel. This is French cca
1922 Citroen 5CV C2 Torpedo. Similar
one did two year circumnavigation of coastline of Australia in 1925'26.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924 Mannesman 5'20 Sports
Photo posted on AACA website by
Vintageben (Australia)
found in wife’s family’s album believed a Mannesmann. They lived
near Giessen in Germany. --
German car make known from 1900 for
their Mannesman Mulag lorries. Cars 1923-9. This is
cca 1924 Mannesman
5'20PS W2 Sports Two-Seater. Earlier was 4'16, later 8'25 successful in
racing. In 1927 they built under licence the Rickenbacker 8 but not
successful and the car production stopped 1929. Current company
restructured 1977.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924
Willys Knight Model 64 Touring
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer
from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on a big website on
line. He noticed some similarities with the 1924 Willys-Knight,
but also with the 1924 Reo ... --
Our Mark Dawber agrees from the distinctive
hubcaps and the the little 'extra bit' on radiator that this is
probably a cca
1924 Willys Knight Model 64 Touring.
My main identification feature was was the louvre panel. Production
ended 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930
Chevrolet 5AD Coupe
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer
from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on a big website on
line. USA 1934 Illinois plate,
from background possibly taken in Chicago.
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We asked our Mark Dawber for quick help
and he returned with
cca 1930 Chevrolet Three Window
Coupe;
headlights on pillars, no sidelights, Baker disc wheels. In 1928
different body, 1929 squarer back, 1931 wire wheels, 1930 Rumble seat
to roof !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1935 Hudson Terraplane Coupe
Intriguing period photo received from John
Kennedy (UK)
saying he is involved in a family history project and has two
photographs of the front and back of a car that was involved in a road
accident in 1937. Can we advise the make and model?
-- American
car also assembled in UK, so if photo taken in UK, car may have been
made in the UK. Car is cca
1935 Hudson/Essex Terraplane Two-Seat Coupe with Dickey.
British Railton cars had Hudson engines/chassis. Hudson bought
Railton 1939.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1940 Hudscon Model 41
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? Photo found on the net.
Possibly taken in 1951? --
Photo is entitled First police officer in Norway. Bit of further
detective work suggests this is not in Scandinavia but Norway in
Oxford, not far from China, Milan, Lebanon, Poland, Sweden, Paris and
Belgrade. Confusing? Car is not ; a cca
1940 Hudscon Model 41 but bit
difficult from photo to see exactly which body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1935 Darmont Three-wheeler
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what
this one was? Found on an old French
calendar. No idea of what it is. --
Rectangular configuration to axles with plunger suspension, and no visible
rear wheel, suggests Morgan; but as it is in France it is a licensed cca
1935 Darmont Etoile de France Three-wheeler with
later much modified bodywork and grille. Photo by Robert Doisneau
"Bolides Paris". Seemingly postwar pedalcar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1936
Ford Model C 10 HP 2Door Tourer
Interesting period photo received from
Chris Hale, of Saffron Walden (UK).
The couple in the front of the car are his grandparents and he thinks
the picture to be dated around the mid 1930s. The vehicle is parked
outside their home in Knowsley near Liverpool. --
Car made in Dagenham by the Ford Motor Co,
as follow-on from Model Y, introduced 1934 as a saloon and in 1935 as a
Tourer, and as no registration visible to aid dating, would be a
cca
1936 Ford Model C 10 HP Two Door Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1977
Nysa 522M Minibus
Cinema screen grab taken from an Egyptian Film 'Al-Aragoz' (The
Pupepeteer) made in 1989, where cars are
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a puppeteer, whose shows dramatize
the promise of Nasser's socialist revolution, widower with one son he
sends to Cairo university. --
The two cars a re British and the van is a Polish cca 1977 Nysa
522 M Minibus built near the Czech
border. The Car on the left is a Vauxhall 12/4 Saloon, and car on
the right is a Rover P2 as it has bonnet louvres.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1979 Syrena 105 Saloon
Lovely photo
submitted by Annika Fuchs (Germany)
who is very fast becoming keen on old cars via her boyfriend Simon who
took the photo. Both were recently looking at another car and in stable
next door was this one. Did we know what it was? --
Relatively modern but unfamiliar despite there having been over 500,000
made, - in Europe! Obviously not
one that that was pushed for export. Made in Warsaw, Poland, by FSO/FSM
1955-83, this is UK registered cca
1979 Syrena 105 Saloon.
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