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Page 64 below relates to enquiries received during 2013Click on picture to enlarge

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Speedwell 6HP Two-Seater
Another couple of photos from the Exeter Memories website (UK) showing a car  that ran in Torquay - any idea what it is? The driver is the chauffeur and gent behind is the owner. -- Registration H 1079 was issued by Middlesex County Council, but no dating records left. Built in Reading by a company who started in 1898 in cycles and importing French steam and petrol cars. This is a cca 1904 Speedwell Two-Seater advertised with a 'genuine 6HP De Dion motor', for 135 guineas (c£140).

1903 Speedwell 6HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Argyll 16'20 Landaulet
Another lovely photo received from Tom Cosens from Yorkshire (UK) of an old car he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of postcard curiosities on which he has no other background, but which are needing identification.  -- This photo shows a couple of unusual features. One is a very glossy skirt below the body which is probably Patent Leather. The other is an unusual Landualette body by Mulliner in the folded-down state.  This car is a  cca  1907  Argyll  16'20  Landaulet, made in Scotland.

1907 Argyll 16'20 Landaulet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette Taxi
Photo from Jim Phelan (UK) saying 'Just came across your fascinating site and thought you might be able to identify the vehicle. Perhaps Mercedes? My grandfather, James Sheehan, was landlord of the Vernon Arms, Portwood, Stockport. He was there pre/post WW1 but in France from 1916/8. Photo could be 1913. -- Registration seems W 6993, issued by Sheffield CBC but dating records have been lost. Not Mercedes but a famous British make, a cca 1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette Taxicab.

1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Star 12 HP Van
Another photo from the Exeter Memories website (UK) showing a Royal Mail van which was seen on the roads of Exeter and surrounding areas probably between 1910 and 1914 -- Relatively unusual make from Wolverhampton which started in 1870s making cyclesand then cars in 1897. At its peak was the sixth largest UK car producer. This is a cca 1910 Star 12HP Van with Royal Mail livery. Star was eventually taken over by Guy Motors 1928, and continued to produce quality cars to 1930.

1910 Star 12 HP Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Opel 5/12 HP Two-Seater
Photo received from Andre van de Loo, Wanswert, Friesland (Holland) of a car we have not been able to identify, a predecessor of this car owned by Mr. H. Posthumus, local blacksmith and maker of tandem bicycles. In 1913 he became the first car owner in the village, a 1912 Opel which he used as taxi, and was known for transporting the local doctors round the area. He was married twice, both times to midwifes.   --  This photo is of the 1912 Opel 5'12 Torpedo two-seater with Dickey.

1912 Opel 5'12 Two-Seater Torpedo with Dickey Seat

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916 Stutz Bearcat Series C
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an American film "The Married Virgin" made in 1918 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about a young woman  blackmailed into marrying a count to save her father from imprisonment. Main star is Rudolf Valentino.  --  The badge says Stutz. Electric lighting 1913 and has to be pre 1917 as no sides to cabin, so likely date is cca 1916 Stutz Bearcat Series C.  Has a  'Mother-in-Law Seat'  out beside the passenger.

1916 Stutz Bearcat Series C

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920 Morriss-LondonTourer
Unusual car being investigated by AutoPuzzles. -- Very unusual car of which only few hundred were made. Manufactured in America, in Elkhart, Indiana, primarily for the English market being handled by a dealer FE Morris in Piccadilly, London. Car was made by Crow-Elkhart and shipped to the UK in chassis form for UK bodies to be added. This is a cca 1920 Morriss-London Tourer which eventually went to Australia. Currently carries  'age-relate'  plate from the  Scottish island of  Orkney.

1920 Morriss-London Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Delage DE Torpedo
Another lovely photo received from Tom Cosens from Yorkshire (UK) of an old car he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of postcard curiosities on which he has no other background, but which are needing identification.  -- This photo shows a car made by a French company started in 1905 which became renowned for making exotic and fast machinery. This is a relatively 'cooking' cca 1921 Delage DE Torpedo. Eventually purchased by Delahaye in 1935, and then became Hotchkiss.

1921 Delage DE Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 TB Sports Model Three-Wheeler
Unusual car being investigated by AutoPuzzles. -- Very unusual car of which only few hundred were made. Produced by Thompson Brothers in Bilston, Staffs, founded in 1810, who became major manufacturer of boilers, steel boats and had an aircraft division. In 1919-23 they made a sturdy three wheel cyclecar having 8'10HP 1000cc JAP air/ water cooled engine. 30mph and 60mpg and achieved many sporting successes. This is cca1923 TB Sports Model Three-Wheeler. Later made tankers to 2004.

1923 TB 8'10 Sports Model Three-Wheeler

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Columbia Six Touring
Photo from Laurence Eccles (UK) of perhaps a British made Reo. Photo may be from Aberdeen area. -- Regretfully no registration number visible to see either country, area or year. I had my doubts about 'British made' connection as no sidelights on the mudguards. American 'feel' and wheel, but RHD so made/used in UK 'colonies'? We received help from Casper Friedrich from Finland who advised this was a cca 1923 Columbia Six Touring for Australian market, - currently UK wedding car.

1923 Columbia Six Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1924 Hispano Suiza H6B Limousine
Another photo received from David Gilchrist of Glasgow (UK) saying thanks for identifying the family Austin Seven and attaching a photo of the family Hispano Suiza H6B taken at the same time, circa 1924.  Is there any way of tracing the car? -- Unfortunately the registration is not visible so there is no accurate way of either dating or tracing the car. Probably cca 1924. The H6B Hispano Suiza was made in France between 1919-1929,   and was a 6 cylinder 6,600cc 135CV car, capable of 137kph.

1924 Hispano Suiza H6B Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924 Renault NN Cabriolet Torpedo
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an American film " Paid to Love " made in 1927 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about an American Banker going to a Balkan country to try and marry off the Crown Prince to help investments.  --  The car was made by a French company started in 1899.  This car has a distinctive coalscuttle bonnet with the radiator behind the engine, which continued into the '30s.  This is a cca 1924 Renault NN Cabriolet Torpedo.

1924 Renault NN Cabriolet Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Chevrolet Light Van
Another photo from the Exeter Memories website (UK) showing a couple of City Steam Laundry vans from 1934. The company was based at Edgerton Park. -- The vans on the photo have smallish headlamps on a tie bar wide apart, full length louvers, black radiator surround and wooden spoke wheels, which suggests these are two American built cca 1927 Chevrolet Light Vans. This either means that the photo date is much earlier than suggested,  or that the livery has had a repaint, later.

1927 Chevrolet Light Delivery Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Chevrolet International Phaeton
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in American film "The Three Stooges" made in 2000 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is a biography of the Three Stooges shown throughout the eyes of Moe Howard.  --  This style of radiator shell top and the logo were used for a short period. Further identification feature is the small number of lovers at the rear of the bonnet, and doors open backwards. This is a cca 1929 Chevrolet International Model AC Phaeton.

1929 Chevrolet International Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Brennabor Type C Roadster
Unusual roadster being investigated by AutoPuzzles. -- Car made in Brandenburg close to Berlin and reached from there via the Brandenburg Gate ! The car is a cca 1931 Brennabor 4'20 Type C Roadster made by a company which started in 1871 making prams and then bicycles. Volume production of motorcycles 1901 and cars by 1903. Model C was made between 1930-32 and about 1,000 were built. Cars stopped in 1933. Soviet Occupation zone 1945 and made heavy tractors.

1931 Brennabor 4'20 Type C Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932 Morris Cowley Doctors Coupe
Photo from  David Jones (UK) showing a car containing his mother and her sister  A cousin owned a Morris garage and it is thought that the car came from there. As far as he knows, the picture was taken in the early 1930s. The Reg is EU 4696 -- The EU series was issued by Brecknockshire County Council in Wales. The car is a well known make but quite an unusual model which took some finding. Not a tourer or sports coupe. This is cca 1932 Morris Cowley Doctors Coupe with Dickey.

1932 Morris Cowley Doctors Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1932 Bedford WLG Converted Bus
Another photo from the Exeter Memories website (UK) showing a travelling hardware vanwhich toured the streets of Exeter selling pots, pans, soap and other household and gardening implements. Probably dates from the early 1930's.  -- American designed, made by General Motors in UK. GM had bought Vauxhall in 1925 and moved production to Luton where they initially made 'Chevrolet Bedfords'. From the chromed radiator surround this is likely a cca 1932 Bedford  WLG  Converted  Bus

1932 Bedford WLG Converted Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933 Armstrong Siddeley Sports Saloon
Photo from Steve Tillotson from the Afgan Hound Times (USA) taken in 1936 of Mrs Molly Sharpe, one of the most important people in the history of the breed - worldwide. She wrote she had a "small Austin"  in Galloway, Scotland. They don't know if car was in her name or her husband's.  -- Austin it was not, and also many other makes! Our Tony Oakes correctly pointed us in the direction of Armstrong Siddeley, and indeed this is cca1933 Armstrong Siddeley Sports Saloon, poss 15hp.

1933 Armstrong Siddeley Sports Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Austin Ruby MK I Saloon
Photo from Peter and Paula Starling Lincolnshire (UK) asking if we can  help them identify the model of this Austin motor car which belonged to Paula's grandfather. Photo is late 1940s. Regretfully, no registration number. -- This is a model in the Austin Seven range. Our Austin Seven racer John Caddy looked into the body line moulding and side roof gutter suggesting between 1935 and 1937. As the windscreen pillar is square to the scuttle,  not curved,  this one is a  cca 1935 Austin Ruby MK1 Saloon

1935 Austin Seven Ruby MK1 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1947 Commer Q25 Van
Another photo from the Exeter Memories website (UK) showing a couple of City Steam Laundry vans from 1934. The company was based at Edgerton Park. A second photo shows a later van. -- Made by a company started in South London in 1905 called The Commercial Car Company. Earlier vehicles were named Commercar and were mainly busses and trucks. In 1907 they moved to Luton and provided many vehicles to the military in WW1. This is cca 1947 Commer Q25 Van. Became Humber '31.

1947 Commer Q25 Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1947 Chevrolet Surrey Station Wagon
Photo received from James Kmetz (USA) of electrical works being carried out and showing an old 'woodie' in the background. He thinks it is not a bus but could be a recreational tourer; maybe a hearse? Plymouth? Was this custom made?  -- Shape suggests cca 1947. Body is a standard Campbell 'Surrey' body made by the Mid-State Body Co, Waterloo NJ. Front is hidden by the pylon but our friends at the AACA confirmed this is a stretched cca 1947 Chevrolet Surrey Station Wagon.

1947 Chevrolet 'Surrey' Station Wagon by Campbell

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1947 Ford Anglia E04A Saloon
Photo from John Holt (UK) which he recently found of his grandfather and some friends at their caravan in the lake district. He thought the white car is a Borgward Isabella 1954'63, but could not identify the black saloon his granddad is leaning on. Perhaps an Austin 10 but a number of things not right about it. -- Regret wrong on both cars. This one not 'British' but made by an American company in Dagenham. Registration is West Bromwich CBC, the car is a  cca 1947  Ford  Anglia E04A Saloon.

1947 Ford Anglia E04A Two Door Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1960  Volvo  P121 Saloon
Photo from John Holt (UK) which he recently found of his grandfather and some friends at their caravan in the lake district. He thought the white car is a Borgward Isabella 1954'63, but could not identify the black saloon his granddad is leaning on. Perhaps an Austin 10 but a number of things not right about it. -- Regret wrong on both cars. This one is not German but Chinese (!!) although was Swedish at the time, then Ford. From the white sidelamps at the front is a  cca 1960  Volvo  P121 Saloon.

1960 Volvo P121 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN 'spitzkuhler' Tourer
Another lovely photo received from Juha Kaitanen (Finland) saying he thinks this one may be a Steyr.  -- This should be easy but is not. I don't think this is a Puch or a Steyr. The rad filler cap is at the very front of the rad whereas most spitzkuhlers have them at the back. Oil lamps, so probably cca 1913. Many spokes in wheels, split rims and long protrusion on the rear hub, and is RHD. The Tulip body seems very European with rear door suicide; many things confusing, perhaps made in Scandinavia.

UNKNOWN cca 1913 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN WW1 Truck
Another photo from Andre van de Loo (Holland) of a WW1 truck purchased shortly after by Theodorus Leenes of Heerenveen, in Friesland, from an American army sale in Belgium. Fitted with caoutchoud (Indian rubber) tyres and acetylene lamps. Registered B-7, which Leenes used on several other trucks/cars afterwards. The photo was 1920 with driver, P. de Vries. -- Probably American but  the quality / pose of the photo does not really provide help in identification.

Unknown WW1 Truck
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