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1905 National Touring
Another unusual photo submitted by
'Grandpa' (USA)
who is another who has a treasure-house of old car photos. Photo taken
in Southern California and he thinks the driver, standing next to the
car, doesn't seem too happy with the load of female passengers.
-- Although
round radiators were quite popular in Europe we feel this is a
home grown American car, cca
1905 National Tourer. National made
horse carriages, electric cars in 1902, Petrol in 1903,
and big 35/40 and 50/60 in 1905.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Car
in cca 1905 Thornton Heath
Photo received from David Bradley (UK)
saying he is trying to date the picture. He has concluded that it
was possibly taken sometime between 1904 and 1907. -- The
photo is very small and pixly and we requested him to re-scan it and
send it to us at BEST RESOLUTION possible,
as it is the detail that provides the identification. Regretfully we
have heard nothing since. It is simply not possible to identify
vehicles without being able to magnify certain
details which are pointers to make and
date.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1906 Star "Little Star"
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. -- Jan
has habit of unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. This
one is a cca
1906 Star "Little Star".
Identification confirmed by John Warburton and his colleagues;
marginally newer than it looks. This one may have survived in a museum
in Sweden & may have recently gone to Holland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1907 Darracq 10/12 Tourer
Photo received from John Dagger (UK).
Boy at steering wheel is his father and the elderly gent his
great-grandfather. Probably taken near Preston in Lancashire. Thought by
a relative to have been an Albion. --
Registration is early 1906 Newcastle, transferred to a later car which
four of our chaps agree is a French cca
1907 Darracq 10/12hp 2-cylinder, or possibly 14/16hp
4-cylinder; short wheelbase favours the former. Albion were built
in Scotland; from 1909 to 1980 made lorries.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1908 FN 4 cylinder Motorcycle
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. -- Jan
has habit of unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. This
photo shows a Belgian cca
1908 FN Four Cylinder Motorcycle. Chain
drive, pre shaft drive. The other photo is a British bike, a
cca 1936 Royal Enfield Model L
500cc single, which we have seen on a previous photo
with a Voisin.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1909 Panhard & Levassor rebodied
An intriguing photo sent to us by Margaret
Green (UK)
investigating where and when photo was taken. Her father (cross) in WW1
was a motor body builder. Photo could possibly be in Armley, Leeds
Yorkshire. --
Regret we cannot answer either. Our John Warburton confirms our thoughts
this is a
cca 1909 Panhard & Levassor re-bodied after
WW1 as it carries a cca 1921 Leeds registration. Continental
windscreen suggests possibly a French built
body. We repaired photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1910 Girling Cyclecar Fire Engine
In our continuing search for the unusual,
photo submitted by our Tony Russell (UK)
who found it on a packet of Tyrrell's Potato Chips. He then
proceeded to do some more research and advised that Girling
(GB) 1913-1914 of Bedford made a three wheeled cyclecar powered by a 6hp
single air cooled engine, constantly variable ratio gearbox, a third
seat over the rear wheel, detachable spare wheel and tiller steering.
The odd thing is that the registration LA 4993 was issued by
London CC in 1910 !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1910 Darracq Tourer
Lovely period postcard submitted by Graham
Snowdon, Yorkshire (UK)
showing a
vehicle photographed beside a house he now owns in Normandy, France. He
is having the pictures framed along with a present day photo taken from
the same spot. He thought it would be good to add a note on the back
about the make and models of the cars pictured. --
The header tank shape, circular badge, near
horizontal dumbirons, mini upright bulkhead
suggest a cca
1910 Darracq Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1912 Rover 12 Two Seater
Dashing photo submitted by Michael
Love (UK)
asking if we might be able to help him identify the car in the
picture being driven by one of his relatives. It was taken in 1912. His
name was Charles Ackland and he was a Dental Surgeon living in
Bournemouth. -- Although
the all important feature, the radiator, is missing from the photo, we
are relatively sure that this is a cca 1912 Rover 12 Two Seater. If the
photo is 1912, it must be of a new car. See
similar cars
on Help Page
6 and 18.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1913 Saxon Roadster
Photo submitted by OB Currier (USA)
which was apparently taken taken in Fertile, Iowa USA in 1916. Some
debate on AACA about this one but we are relatively sure that the bulge
at the bottom of the bonnet a la the Maxwell plug flap, eight louvers on
the bonnet with a rear catch and a middle handle all positively point to
a 1913
Saxon Roadster. Saxons were started by
the man behind Chalmers, made in very great numbers in Detroit,
Michigan, USA, and many even reached the UK.
Closed 1922.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1914 Darracq 16HP Tourer
Photo submitted by Sheena Corlet (Northen
Ireland) of her grandfather taken in
the 1920's. Her trying to identify the car started off as idle curiosity
but after very much searching it has now become a bit of an
obsession! -- Annoyed
me as I recognised it but could not identify it. John Warburton then
pointed out this was a cca
1914 Darracq 16 HP, - when it clicked into place that we once
had one in the Society and I wrote about the
Lockett car on our earlier website
. Knew I knew it!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1918 Morris GPO Y Van
Another interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle which
appeared in the 1961 film "The Young Ones" being investigated
on IMCDB. This was a film featuring Cliff Richard trying to save a youth
club from being redeveloped, - involving use pirate radio broadcasts to
announce their shows. --
This is a rather specific vehicle because
it is a cca
1948 Morris Series Y 10cwt van with a
specialised GPO (Post office) body. It would have been used by GPO for "Radio
Interference" Investigations.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1918 Overland 90 Country Club
Photo received from Joan Anderson (UK)
asking if we can help to identify her
grandfather's car? Photo was taken late 20's early 30's. Several family
members are doing the history of the family and are curious to know! --
The Registration letters 'DL' indicate that the car was registered on
the Isle of Wight but no data before 1929 when it had reached DL 6030.
The car is an American cca
1918 Overland 90 Country Club Touring Car,
with what appears to be an British body & wheel discs.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1921 Adler Tourer
Another interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle which
appeared in the Swedish documentary film "Mitt Hjartas Malmo" being investigated
on IMCDB. -- This
is quite an unusual photo in as much as it shows a spitzkuhler cca
1921 Adler Tourer. Most Adlers are
recognisable by their conventional early and post 25 flat radiators,
whereas this series had the very Teutonic 'V' shaped radiator with the
large Adler eagle logo. Were third largest German car maker, and still
making typewriters etc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1922 Ego Sports Tourer
Another interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle which
appeared in the Swedish documentary film "Mitt Hjartas Malmo" being investigated
on IMCDB. --
This is quite a rare car that was
manufactured in Germany between 1921 and 1925 by the Mercur aircraft company
diversifying after WW1. Ego
was apparently a well made and reliable small car which did well in
competitions. Rudolf Caracciola campaigned one of these 1922 before
going to international stardom with Mercedes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1924 Rover 8 Tourer
Smashing photo submitted by Dave White (UK)
showing great grandparents, & his grandma, dog and great
uncle in the back. Smilarities with the Rover 8, but things make
him think different make of car. He thought car was registered in
Leeds. --
Registration is not Leeds but West Riding of Yorkshire, accurately
dating the car to a cca
1924 Rover 8 Tourer. The
Rover 8 was made between 1919 and 1925 and had all the
features of later model which made him
doubt Rover.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1927 Citroen C4 Saloon
Lovely period postcard submitted by Graham
Snowdon, Yorkshire (UK) showing a
vehicle photographed beside a house he now owns in Normandy, France. He
is having the pictures framed along with a present day photo taken from
the same spot. He thought it would be good to add a note on the back
about the make and models of the cars pictured. --
Photo is bit unclear but most likely a cca
1927/8 Citroen Saloon, probably
C4 or C6. Difficult to tell them apart. Unusual wheels.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1927 FIAT Tourers
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. -- Jan
has habit of unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. There
is some debate as to the models of the cars but they are both cca
1927 FIAT Tourers. The front
one, double curve on bottom of front spring covering was on the
512. Photo is low resolution, but other one could be a
507.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1928 Graham Paige
Another dramatic cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared
in a film, but regrefully I cannot remember which one it was. The car is
an American cca
1928 Graham Page. Graham page were introduced that year after
the Graham brothers purchased the failing Paige Detroit Motor Co. Graham
paige made 73,000 cars in 1928. Company name became simply Graham in
1930. In 1940 they made 3,000 cars. By mid 1940s were
renamed Frazer, then Kaiser Frazer, merging with
Willys.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1932 Morris Minor Two Seater
Lovely rural photo submitted by Steve
Walters (UK)
saying '..attached a postcard of a local scene in Glenfield where I
live. Could anyone please identify the car and perhaps an approximate
year?" --
The registration is not clear but we think it is JF 3616 which would
have been issued by Leicester County Borough Council. The identification
as a cca
1932 Morris Minor Two Seater Tourer was
confirmed by our Chas Moody adding hubs were changed 1932. 34 would have
curved one-piece wings
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1932 Peugeot 201 Boulangere
Interesting photo submitted by Sigis (Lithuania)
saying 'My language bad. I have this picture for many years, but
can't identify car. This photo was taken in Lithuania at a funeral maybe
about 1930-1935. This vehicle is rare and I
can't find any information about it. Thanks for any
information. --
We can advise that the vehicle was made in France, and horisontal louvers
confirm it is a commercial variant of a car; it is a cca
1932 Peugeot 201 Boulangere type camionnette;
not many made.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1937 Rytecraft Scootacar
One of the first enquiries we received in
2001 was a photo from Smita from India trying to find out more
information on the " 1903
Rutecraft Scooter Car". This turned out to be a cca
1936
Rytecraft Scootacar .
It seems that there is another one in India
owned by Rishi Kumar (India) who
wanted another one so asked for forwarding details. Regretffully we no
longer had these so could not help. We are however posting the photo of
Rishi's Ryetecraft
at the 2009 Calcutta Rally, still on the road.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1950s Bradford Van
A number of photos sent to us by Kim
Anderberg (Denmark) saying
he was at a flee-market at Store Heddinge (60 km south of
Copenhagen) and saw an old wreck of a car which looks like a Jowett
Bradford. The car is in bad shape but maybe it could be of interest for
somebody who needs spare parts. The car, or what is left of it, is for
sale. --
We have advised our Jowett specialists and if anybody is
interested we can put you in touch with Kim. Bradford
light commercials
were made 1946-53.
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FOR SALE IN SOUTH AFRICA:1963
Ford Falcon
A couple of photos sent to us by Ernie
Deyzel (South Africa)
saying he has this 1963
Ford Falcon in original condition. Its brakes need to be
repaired and he thinks the engine only needs a good cleanup (fuel
lines). Ernie is in Port Elizabeth, in South Africa and wants R50 000-00
for the car. --
We don't now carry ads for cars because the situation is always changing.
However, in this case we thought the photo is worth showing in the view
of the stunning red countryside in the background !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1992 Nissan Figaro
Photo submitted by Gordon Delchamps from
Fredrick, Maryland, (USA) of
a car in a London Parking lot, asking how he could find out the year,
make, model, etc? --
As we have had this question a couple of
times we have decided to post the photo and advise that the car is a cca
1992 Nissan Figaro introduced 1989
Tokyo, 8,000 made. A further batch was made in 1991 of about 12,000
cars. One of UK's main Sunday morning political shows has
presenter Andrew Marr driving one to work at BBC.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
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H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
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normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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