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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Wolseley 10HP Van 
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  --  Mark was concerned that the radiatior did not go round the bonnet, but we think this was the way the photo was taken. From lenghth of bonnet this definitely seems to be a cca 1903 Wolseley Delivery Van made for the Royal Mail. The 10 HP and the 20HP were very similar in appearance. They did also make a 6HP with an enormous box van body.

1903 Wolseley 10HP Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Lanchester 28HP Limousine
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was? Found in a box of old photos.  --  Relatively unusual bodywork arrangement so is quite  easy to identify as a Lanchester, 1899-1931. Lanchesters were unique in design and concept. This one has tiller steering, mid engine and body section before the rear door so is a cca 1907 Lanchester 28HP Open Drive Limousine. Lanchester was bought by BSA/Daimler 1931.

1907 Lanchester 28HP Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1907 Daimler Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  --  Not as easy as it looks although clearly an 'English Daimler'. Quite a contradictory car: steering column angle dates the car at 1906, smallish ca, flat un-edged mudguards, no radiator louvres, 12 spoke wheels, not chain-drive, no long brake lever; so a couple of our experts agree this is a cca 1907 Daimler Tourer, poss 28HP transition / export model?

c1907 Daimler Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Daimler & 1907 Minerva
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not been identified there.. -- Further research uncovered that this accident seems to have occurred in 1912 but not much else. The car on the right was Belgian but widely available in the UK; a cca 1907 Minerva Model M Landaulette. The car on the left is more difficult but fins on the rad and shortish body say a cca 1909 Daimler Landaulette, poss 28HP.

1907 Daimler & 1907 Minerva

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Laurin & Klement GR4 Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a Czech film "Dobrý voják Svejk" (Good Soldier Svejk) made 1957 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Soldier Svejk talks about the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. --  Assassination occurred in 1914 when headlamps were acetylene not electric!  Made by the then biggest car manufacturer in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in Mlada Boleslav. I visited factory many times in the 1960s. This is a cca 1909 Laurin & Klement Typ G Tourer,  is now Skoda!

1909 Laurin & Klement GR4 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Dennis Landaulette
Photo appeared in a Chanel 5 Documentary of Agatha Christi's car who really disappeared in 1926 for number of days abandoning her running car near a cliff following her divorce and death of her mother. Her car was a Morris Cowley, which this plainly is not! 
--  There are no pictures at all of Agatha Christies c1925 Morris Cowley Bullnose Four Seater although a number of look-a-likes are variously shown, and no correct registration is known. This is a 'police car', a c1910 Dennis Landaulette.

1910 Dennis Landaulette; NOT Agatha Christie's car.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Renault Open Drive Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film "Get your Man" made in 1927 n where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Silent movie about an American girl who falls in love with a nobleman in Paris who is about to get married. --  The car is full of contradictions; an older landaulette being used as a Taxi, a Taxameter beside the driver.  The car is a cca 1911 Renault Landaulette which had subsequently been updated with wire wheels, rounded mudguards and electric headlights.

1911 Renault Open Drive Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 National Steam Car Co Omnibus
Lovely winter photo from a Russian poster in Cyrillic suggesting 1919 Trafalgar Square London and showing two very interesting vehicle so far not identified there.
--  F 4461 is Essex CC Registration, 1911. Vehicle on right is very interesting being a paraffin fuelled steam carriage with thimble tube boilers, built by Thomas Clarkson, previously of C&C Steam Car Syndicate, and operated from 1909 by National Steam Car Co in competition with LGOC in the London area,  culminating 1919  with 184.

1911 National Steam Car Co Omnibus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1913 Charron 25HP Landaulette
Unusual Photo posted on a Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there; "Taxi in Essex".. 
--  H reg  is Essex but this is LH which is London CC 1913. The vehicle is French Paris made by a British owned company Charron Ltd, successors to CGV. Charron made 'X' 12hp Taxis for London. From the Taxameter this is being used as a taxi, it is one of their bigger cars and is probably the c1913 Charron 25HP landaulette. Charron ceased production 1930.

c1913 Charron 25HP Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Charron 12HP Landaulette Taxi
Lovely winter photo from a Russian poster in Cyrillic suggesting 1919 Trafalgar Square London and showing two very interesting vehicle so far not identified there.
--  The vehicle on the left is very similar to one in photo below and has a registration number that is only a few hundred before it. This is also a LH registration whiuch is London CC cca 1912 and this ia also a Taxi, - as is the car in the middle behind it. Paris made for UK owning company, this is a cca 1913 Charron 12HP Landaulette Taxi.

1912 Charron 12HP Landaulette Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1915 Ford T & c1924 Citroen C
Unusual Photo published on a New Zealand Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there. 
--  Accident seems to have occurred in Christchurch in 1925. No fatalities but one severely injured person and two badly damaged cars.  Car on the left is an American cca 1915 Model T Ford as has angular bonnet and electric lights. Car on right is the French cca 1924 Citroen Model C Tourer as still has flat mudguards. American 1924 Dodge at back.

c1915 Ford T & c1924 Citroewn C

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1921 Packard Single Six 
Our
venerable Hon Treasurer Toby Oakes (UK) has just commenced his 80th year and yet still continues working as the Principal Partner of his accountancy practice. He received this Birthday Card and discussion ensued as to what the car was. He thought probably a Bitser?.
  --  Although it does look a 'cut-down' car,- from the radiator, filler cap, and headlamps our American experts confirm it is a cca 1921 Packard Single Six Raceabout, Bonnet and scuttle are custom as is the two-seat body.

1921 Packard Single Six Raceabout

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  c1923 De Dion Bouton IW Landaulette
Unusual photo posted on a Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there; Possibly a Minerva or a Rochet Schneider?  --  Some discussion about this one by various people with Rochet Schneider being a possibility. 
I however am relatively sure that this is indeed French but that it is a cca 1923 De Dion Bouton IW Landaulette. D-D-B made the 'IS' Taxi, but this is a IW bigger Landaulette which, from the Taxameter, is being used as a taxi.

c1923 De Dion Bouton IW Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Cluley 11.5HP Four-Seater
Unusual Photo published on a
New Zealand Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there. 
--  Fire apparently occured in Christchurch in 1926. "It suddenly burst into flames while the owner was paying a call". Badge must have melted off but just a trace of a logo on the radiator. Quite a small British car of which only about 2000 in total were ever  made so interesting one was in NZ. This is the bigger cca 1923 Cluley 11.5HP Two-door Four-Seater.

1923 Cluley 11.5HP Four-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924 Leyland SG Type
Unusual photo posted on a Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there, although the lorry could be a Leyland.-- Leyland indeed and next to a sphinx head petrol pump which we have had before on HP142 . WT 7267 registration is West Riding of Yorkshire 1924. The vehicle is cca 1924 Leyland SG Type, chassis similar to that used on SG7 busses. Bit of research locates the photo to Alfred Brittain, York Rd, Kings Cross, London, not now there.

1924 Leyland SG Type

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924 Vauxhall 30'98 Tourer
Unusual photo posted by Pedro de Melo (Portugal?) on  Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there. 
--  This is one of a number of sporting cars parked in a row and entitled 'Competition'. This one is particularly interesting as it is quite a big tall car and it is British. It was first British production car to top 100 mph,, this is a cca 1924 Vauxhall 30'98 Tourer, probably the more powerful OE Type fitted with a 4,224 four cylinder OHV 115 bhp engine.

1924 Vauxhall 30'98 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Lancia Lambda Torpedo
Unusual photo posted by Pedro de Melo (Portugal?) on  Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not been identified there. 
--  This is one of a number of sporting cars parked in a row and entitled 'Competition'. This one is particularly interesting as it has high mounted headlights just above the top of the rad, a feature of the Italian Lancia built in Turin. This is a cca 1923 Lancia Lambda, probably the Series 2 car,  made 1923 to 1924,  which had a 49 HP 2121 cc V 4 engine.

1923 Lancia Lambda Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Delage DE Tourer
Unusual photo posted by Pedro de Melo (Portugal?) on  Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not yet  been identified there. 
--  This is one of a number of sporting cars parked in a row and entitled 'Competition'. This one looks a little less sporty than the others and is French, made in Paris. It is however a very competitive make in Grand Prix races. As it has a relatively tall narrow radiator this is cca 1924 Delage DE Tourer, with probably the 2117cc four cylinder engine.

1924 Delage DE Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Bignan Supersport
Unusual photo posted by Pedro de Melo (Portugal?) on  Facebook page of very interesting old machinery which has not been identified there. 
--  This is one of a number of sporting cars parked in a row and entitled 'Competition'. This one is particularly interesting as it has a very unusual radiator with the water filler cap protruding well forward of the front of the rad. Made in Curbevoie, Paris, this is a cca 1925 Bignan Supersport with 2L 16 valve engine. Won the Monte Carlo Rally in 1924.

1925 Bignan Supersport 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Renault NN Camionette
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film "Get your Man" made in 1927 n where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Silent movie about an American girl who falls in love with a nobleman in Paris who is about to get married. --  Probably stock library footage of the 1920s Place de la Concorde which is at the eastern end of the Champs-Elysees in Paris and is town's largest square. Very indistict vehicle but sloping  coal scuttle bonnet suggests is a cca 1925 Renault NN 6 CV Camionette.

1925 Renault NN Camionette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Renault 40 Phaeton Transform.
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page asking for identification.
 Mark thought perhaps a big Renault? --   Big Renault indeed; shame no view of front. This is from the era before frontal louvers and frontal radiators were introduced because big scuttle louvres can just be seen through the spare wheel. This is Renault's flagship, a cca 1925 Renault Model 40 Phaeton Transformable possibly by Kellner (called Model 45 for export).

1925 Renault Model 40 Phaeton Transformable

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Armstrong Siddeley 12'6 Saloons
In attempting to identify a Porthos car came across photo of four white cars with kangaroos on rad and names on bonnets of Porthos, Athos, D'Artagnan and Aramis. -- Further research uncovered details on the Daily Telegraph (UK) website that the photo refers to the Ashes Tour of England May 1930 when the Australian team was provided with a fleet of cars named after the Three Musketeers. The cars have a Coventr BC  registration of 1929 and are cca 1929 Armstrong Siddeley 12'6 Saloons,

1929 Armstrong Siddeley 12'6 Saloons

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1955 Dannenhauer & Stauss Cabriolet
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was seen by a friend  -- Apparently rarer than the Porsche 356 that it mimics. This is a cca 1955 Dannenhauer & Stauss Cabriolet, about 135 built in Stuttgart Germany 1951-57, based on Porsche looks but Volkswagen Beetle underpinnings and engine (0>60, 36 seconds!). Noticeable are Volks wheels, suicide doors and split screen. However had four seats. 18 left.

1955 Dannenhauer & Stauss Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1970 Mercedes Benz O Bus 
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify the vehicl, year, and location. --  We are not very good at non-UK busses but think from cca 1970 Mercedes Benz O series of rear engined busses, possibly an O 302. Also cannot help with location as the plaques on the building are unreadable. People no jackets and building air-conditioned. Busses also made in Argentina and Brazil, so perhaps from over there?

1970 Mercedes Benz O Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1971 ZAZ 966B Zaprozhets
Cinema screen grab taken from a Russian Music Vido 'Egor Kreed: Serdtseyedka' (Heartbreaker) made in 2019,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- This is a cca 1971 ZAZ 966B Zaprozhets made in Ukraine just up the road from Crimea on the Black Sea. 'Car for the Masses' made in various models 1960 to 1994. This one is second series of the 2nd Sseries recognisable by the false grille and rear air scoops. V4 rear mounted air cooled engine of 1,197cc, 30HP, capable of 75mph.

1971 ZAZ 966B Zaprozhets
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