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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1900 Benz Comfortable
Fascinating enquiry received from John McLean, Retired Curator, Motor Museum of Western Australia (Australia) who with the Australasian Motor Museums Association have been asked to identify the attached vehicle known in Sydney in early 1900's. Only picture available is poor. -- Our Ariejan Bos advises car is clearly a Benz, probably a Comfortable, but much modified. Curved frame was characteristic for the Velocipede and the Comfortable.  The production year will have been 1899 or 1900.

c1900 Benz Comfortable

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Rex with 2HP Buchet Engine 
Fascinating photo received from Roger Lovell (UK) who is compiling archive of early vehicles in Leicestershire and has this image for inclusion. Although a Luton registration, the machine was owned by Mr Bert Bircher of Ibstock and the photograph was taken outside number 86 High Street. Any idea on the make, especially the unusual engine? --  Info via our Chas Moody from Martin Shelley that from Bedford archives it is a 1905 Rex fitted by fourth owner with weaker 2HP Buchet engine.

1905 Rex with 2HP Buchet Engine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Aerocar Model F Touring
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on NZ facebook page but from the US National Air and Space Museum of a Wright Flyer being transported in Virginia by a very unusual car What is it? --  Much international discussion and debate on AACA forum due to Packardalike radiator and eventually confirmed by our Ariejan Boss that it is a cca 1907 Aerocar Model F. This is the 'new' water-cooled car, previously air-cooled, before company closed 1908.

1907 Aerocar Model F Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Daimler Open Drive Landaulette
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK) of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken in the 1900s. --  Grand car in front of a grand collonaded house. Registration W 569 was issued by Sheffield CBC, no dating info kept,  and is no longer in use. The vehicle is a British built Daimler and from the flat mudguards, forward mounted steering tie rod  and small lights, this dates it to a cca 1908 Daimler Open Drive Landaulette, being a medium sizes vehicle probably a 28Hp.

1908 Daimler Open Drive Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Humber 20HP Ambulance
Another puzzling photo received from from Georges Truffaut (Belgium) of a vehicle he is trying to identify. What is the make of the ambulance on the right? On the panel is written: "Galashiels Car N°1". What is the meaning of this? -- Galashiels is a town down south of Edinburgh. Presumably the ambulance was supplied by donations of 'war effort' money by people of Galashiels. Two of our experts agree not FIAT or Napier, but is a Beeston built cca 1908 Humber 20HP War Ambulance.

1908 Humber 20HP Ambulance

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Clement Talbot Roi de Belges
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK) of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken in August 1919. Is this a Wolseley referred to by his grandmother in her memoirs? --  Very bad grainy photo but regret this is not a Wolseley. The hump on the radiator and the bolt through the centre of radiator identify it as Clement which had complicated French/UK connections. Could be the same one on HP135, a British Kensington built bigger cca 1908 Clement Talbot Roi de Belges.

1908 Clement Talbot Roi de Belges

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Clement Talbot 35HP 4F
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle on a photo from Facebook which was possibly taken in New Zealand. Talbot?  -- Not much in the background to help in determining the location. The car is a little easier to identify and it is indeed a c1908 Clement Talbot 35HP Mode 4F Roi-des-Belges. Clement Talbot had a complicated company history at the time;  Originally French, the London end of Clement became Clement Talbot from 1904 based in Kensington.

1908 Clement Talbot 35HP 4F Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1910 Darracq 10'12 Type R
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle on a photo which was possibly taken in UK in the Woking area and headed 1914 Darracq. Presumably the identification is correct?  -- Earlier. Prefix letter H is a Middlesex County Council reg'n which started 1904 and ended 9999 by 1912, so 5962 would have been considerably earlier, poss '10. The rounded scuttle bodywork going to a flat bulkhead is earlier too, so the smaller c1910 Darracq 10'12 Type R.

 c1910 Darracq 10'12 Type R Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Darracq Model RR 14'16 Phaeton
Cinema screen grab taken from a British film "Colette" made in 2018, where cars are investigated by IMCDB. Keira Knightley plays a young French girl who writes a novel under her husband's name. Based on true story. --  Looks like a current UK registration Grimsby 1911 but this does not seem to be on the DVLA register under that number.  Why a UK registration if in France? It is of correct age and has correct body for the larger mid range cca 1910 Darracq Model RR 14'16 Double Phaeton.

1910 Darracq Model RR 14'16 Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Opel 16'25 Doppelphaeton
Cinema screen grab taken from a pre WW1 silent Danish film "Det Hemmelighedsfulde X" (Sealed Orders) made in 1914 where cars are investigated by IMCDB.  Film is about WW1 cruiser officer wrongfully convicted as traitor. --  Film was silent and before WW1 so German version had titles changed to eliminate any words such as spies and traitors, which were turned into smugglers. Very old film so not very clear but we are relatively sure this car is a cca 1912 Opel 16'25 Tourer.

1912 Opel 16'25 Doppelphaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Delaunay Belleville IA4 Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a French film "On a Vole La Joconde" (The Mona Lisa Has Been Stolen) made in 1966 where cars are investigated by IMCDB.  Film is about a framer, who gets a job as an apprentice, but really wants to steel Mona Lisa. --  Interesting car which from the front has a circular radiator/bonnet with a stepped scuttle so a limit in choice of makes. From the back it seems one of their smaller models, so would be a cca 1912 Delaunay Belleville 12HP IA4 Torpedo.

1912 Delaunay Belleville IA4 Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Renault Open Drive Landaulette
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK) of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken cca 1919 with the Bishop of London in the car. --  Another very grainy photo which we have enhanced. This car has a scuttle bonnet and a rounded edge radiator, and bodywork is still a formal older shape landaulette of some considerable size. No registration is visible to help with dating but we think this is a cca 1913 Renault Open Drive Landaulette., one of the bigger models 22 or 35HP.

1913 Renault Open Drive Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Renault 12CV EF Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a pre WW1 silent Danish film "Det Hemmelighedsfulde X" (Sealed Orders) made in 1914 where cars are investigated by IMCDB.  Film is about WW1 cruiser officer wrongfully convicted as traitor. --  Film was silent and before WW1 so German version had titles changed to eliminate any words such as spies and traitors, which were turned into smugglers. Unclear photo but car has scuttle electric lights so probably cca 1914 Renault 12CV EF Tourer.

1914 Renault 12CV EF Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Bean 11.9 Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on photo which was taken at the Kaikoura Garage, on the coast north of Christchurch, probably around 1918-20. Is it a Perry? --  Not Perry but the immediate successor who bought the rights and jigs. Note that the inner radiator mask profile is rounded whereas the Perry had a bit of a flat. Also note it has scuttle sidelights like a Perry, so an early one. This would be cca 1919/20 Bean 11.9, probably two seater @ £339.

1920 Bean 11.9 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Austin 20 HP All Weather Coupe
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK) of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken cca 1925. --  Another very grainy photo which we have tried to enhance but could only make viewable by poster edging. No registration is visible to help with dating but we think this is a rather unusual bodied cca 1920 Austin 20 HP All Weather Coupe which had a four way split windscreen just visible on the photo. An expensive and elegant 3.6L 4 cylinder car equally as fast as 3L Bentley.

1920 Austin 20 HP All Weather Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Tilling Stevens TS3 Bus
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle on a photo which was taken in UK in Scotland. No information on identification. -- Tramway company which started 1906 owned by GE Wemyss, Chief of Clan Wymyss. Photo of the bonnet is not clear, but is a cca 1920 Tilling Stevens TS3 Petrol Electric Bus, probably with Brush Electrical coachwork. This had 4 cyl conventional constantly running petrol engine turning generator/traction motor in lieu gearbox.

1920 Tilling Stevens TS3 Petrol Electric Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Morris Commercial 1 Ton Van
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on photo which was taken in Australia. --  Vehicle belonged to British Imperial Oil Co which began deliveries of Shell fuel to  garages in 1916, The van was for maintenance of pumps. Very unusual radiator header tank on what seems to be a Morris vehicle. It is possible that this design of header was perhaps on only colonial export vehicles. This is a cca 1925 Morris Commercial 1 ton Van. One sold in Australia 2017.

1925 Morris Commercial 1 Ton Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Morris Commercial 1 Ton Van
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle on a photo which was taken in New Zealand. --  This seems same type of van as above, which confirms possible design of curious header only on export models. This is a cca 1925 Morris Commercial 1 Ton Van. Early Model T commercials had only Morris on the header tank  whereas little later the logo was Morris Commercial. No photo of any British based van with this header, but one was sold Australia recently.

1925 Morris Commercial 1 Ton Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 Morris T type Lorry
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on NZ facebook page taken in Whangarei in the far north of NZ probably taken during or just after WW2. Note the radiator has no 'badge', unlike Morris light van versions looked at down this page. --  Confused by indented bonnet side just below the hinge on the bonnet and lack of name. I don't seem to have record of similar? I would date it cca 1925 + T type as the one ton was not available before that or WW2.

1926 Morris T Type Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Lincoln Zephyr 4 Door Sedan
Interesting photo received from Bob Knowles (UK) who has been searching through family photos and has found another of his grandfather's cars. It looks like a  Lincoln Zephyr. Help appreciated.  --  Registration FTW 509 is an Essex CC issue of November 1937 and the rear of the car is that of a cca 1937 Lincoln Zephyr. Rear hinge is just visible advising it is a Four Door Saloon. Zephyr was a mid price Lincoln made 1936'40 by luxury division of the Ford Motor Co., and still active.

1937 Lincoln Zephyr 4 Door Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Audi Front UW 225 Cabriolet
Cinema screen grab taken from an Estonian film "Juunikuu päevad" (June Days) made in 1957, where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.  Film is about a young man who discovers the truth about his parents. --  From the close parallel twin sets of louvres this seem to be a cca 1935 Audi Front UW 225; a front wheel drive car sharing engine with Wanderer. Auto Union was formed in 1932 merging DKW, Horch, Audi, and Wanderer,  when car development became more centralized.

1935 Audi Front UW 225 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:   1938 Ford Prefect E93A Saloon
Another puzzling photo received from James Baxendale (UK) of cars belonging to his family. Photo taken in the 1930s. --  Another very grainy photo which we have tried to enhance. No registration is visible to help with dating but we are told the photo is from the 1930s. If this dating is accurate, this car would therefore be a cca 1938/9 Ford Prefect E93A Saloon. This type of grille was on cars made between 1938 to 1948, and subsequently replaced with a chromed grille 1948 to 1952.

1938 Ford Prefect E93A Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown c1932 Saloon
Intriguing photo received from  Georges Truffaut (Belgium) of a vehicle he is trying to identify. --  RHD. It seems very easy but none of our experts have nailed it. Interesting suggestions of French Sizere Freres or more interesting suggestion of Hungarian MAG from the radiator top, but nothing much else matches including the starter handle hole. Three rows of horizontal louvres suggest American but all think European. I was tending toward a slightly modified c1932 Fiat 522 LWB. Any ideas?

Unknown c1932 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown Green Electrical Lantern
Intriguing photos  received from Enno Schlechter of a little lantern with green glass and asked which vehicle it came from. --  It seems to have a bayonet fitting small car bulb, two pin, two pole of 12V 6W, standard in UK. Has secondary bayonet fitting in the base into which fits another male bayonet fitting but has no weather protection. Green glass was not normal for car applications, and suggests possible starboard marine use applications. Green was also points signal on railways.  Any ideas?

Unknown Green Electrical Lantern

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown Leyland Driver Instructions
Fascinating photo received from Franz Stiburek (Austria) of an instruction for drivers sign. His grandfather sent it to him from New Zealand about 30 years ago, found in an old car in the woods. Maybe somebody needs one?--  Leyland mainly made commercial vehicles except for limited production of a luxury car 1920/3. The cars were not a great success and only about 18 were made. None of the original cars survive.  So this could be from a lorry or bus. Of these they made many.

Unknown Leyland Driver Instructions
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