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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page 54 below relates to enquiries received during 2013Click on picture to enlarge

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1900 Peugeot Vis-a-Vis
Interesting photos featured on Mark Humphrys' genealogy website (Eire) showing an unidentified Vis-a-Vis owned by Grandfather's brother Michael O'Rahilly.  -- Identified by our John Warburton from the  vertical steering column with 'handlebars' control on top, and tubular substantial chassis. This seems to be a cca 1900 Peugeot Vis-a-Vis and closest match in the Peugeot book is the Model 26 available with 3,4 or 5 HP engine options,  twin  cyl. horizontal,  3 forward speeds  & reverse.

1900 Peugeot Vis-a-Vis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Regal Rear Entrance Tonneau
Another interesting enquiry from Juha Kaitanen, Turku, (Finland) with a newspaper report saying the Regal car was owned by Vilho Wallin from Turku and sold in 1907 to Isak Julin from Tampere, and that it was made by DeDion Bouton. -- The Regal was supplied by O C Selbach of London/Paris but was actually manufactured by Lacoste & Battman in Paris using De Dion Bouton or Aster engines. L&B made cars for various manufacturers who put their own name on them, including ' The Regal '

1904 Regal Rear Entrance Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Cundell 16'20 RE Tonneau
Another puzzling photo received from Joao Ferreira (Portugal) notated " A 1902 Cudell driven by his importer Joćo Baptista Dotti on the way to Ericeira", a fishermen village on the coast, north of Lisbon. -- While we agree with the maker, we think this is a cca 1904 Cudell 16'20 Rear Entrance Tonneau. Cudell 1898-1908 made alligator bonneted cars until 1904. In 1904 they had a major fire and Hungarians Podvinez & Heisler bought licence to make the  Cundell-Phoenix.  Cundell exported  to USA.

1904 Cudell 16'20 Rear Entrance Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Laurin & Klement Type A
Another photo received from Adrian Pascu-Tulbure (UK) relating to a blog on historic cars of Romania. Another challenge if you would be so kind - the attached car, owned by a northern Romanian family before 1908.. -- Made by the company started 1905 who was soon to be the biggest car manufacturer in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in Mlada Boleslav. I visited the current factory many times in the 1960s. This is a cca 1906 Laurin & Klement Type A Voiturette.  Grew to  become  Skoda! 

1906 Laurin & Klement Type A Voiturette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1906 Winton Model K Touring
Very picturesque photograph received from Peter Johnson (UK) of a car at Pont Aberglaslyn in Wales. He would love to know what type it is and some idea of the date. He thinks the registration is London.  --  The scuttle is very British but such gorgeous front 'dumbirons' suggest foreign. Shaft drive. Has an AA badge which were first issued in April 1906. Reg is London CC, early 1906. Far away from home, being a Cleveden, Ohio, built  cca 1906 Winton Model K Touring, 4 cylinder 30hp.

1906 Winton Model K Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Passy-Thellier 16'20 Landaulette
Interesting enquiry received from Juha Kaitanen, Turku, (Finland) saying that a Mr. Fritz Arthur Juselius of Pori visited the Auto Show in Stockholm in 1907, and there he bought a car manufactured by Mendelsohn & Co in Paris. No trace of the make on the internet? --  The "Mandelssohn"  car was actually built by Passy-Thellier in Levallois Perret in France, 1903-07. It seems that one of the Directors was a E G Mendelssohn-Bartholdy, relative of the famous composer, hence name.

1906 Passy-Thellier 16'20 Landaulette also sold as the Mendelssohn

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably cca 1907 FIAT Tourer
Another glorious photo received from Joao Ferreira (Portugal) which shows a car being pulled out of a major pothole by a couple of horses. Can we help with the maker of this car? -- Not easy because the photograph is so small and of poor quality. It is the detail that provides the identification, and not much of that is available. Styles of radiators and bodies were very similar in that period. Suggestions that it could be a Mercedes or Napier, from cap,  but most likely a cca 1907 FIAT Tourer.

Probably cca 1907 FIAT Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 NSU 10'20 Tourer
Unusual car being investigated by AutoPuzzles, and is one which we have identified. Being quite uncommon, and therefore useful in spotting similar cars, it warrants a mention in these pages. --  This car was manufactured by a company which stared out in Knitting Machines in 1873, changed to bicycle manufacture, then motorcycles and eventually cars in 1905.  This is a German cca 1911 NSU 10'20 Tourer.  NSU name came from local rivers Necar and SUlm. Became Volkswagen.

1911 NSU 10'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 De Dion Bouton Tourer
Interesting photos featured on Mark Humphrys' genealogy website (Eire) showing a De Dion Bouton and two unknown cars. The 1911 De Dion Buton owned by Grandfather's brother Michael O'Rahilly is interesting as it was used in the makeshift Princes' Street barricades in Dublin during The Rising in 1916 of the 1916-23 Irish Revolution. The body had been made by a Dublin Coachbuilder O'Grady's of Dawson Street, - green.  Perhaps  first body  manufactured in Southern Ireland.

1911 De Dion Bouton Tourer in the barricades of the Irish Rising

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 MAF Two-seater
Unusual car being investigated by AutoPuzzles, and is one which we have identified. Being quite uncommon, and therefore useful in spotting similar cars, it warrants a mention in these pages. --  This car was manufactured by the son of the founder of Piccolo Car Company in Germany. Hugo Ruppe built cars near Leipzig under the company name Markranstater Automobil Fabrik, 1908 to 1921. This is a cca 1911 MAF Two-seater, probably 8'10. They failed in 1921, selling factory to Apollo.

1911 MAF Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Warren M12 40G Touring
Another photo received from Adrian Pascu-Tulbure (UK) relating to a blog on historic cars of Romania. Photo seems c 1910 European.  -- This one is very complicated and all pointers are that it is an American rather than a European car. Layden at AACA has come up with a suggestion which is difficult to discount, a cca 1912 Warren Model 12 40G Touring. These cars were made in Detroit between 1910 and 1913, and later  sold by a  Philadelphia  company. But how  come  to Romania?

Probably cca1912 Warren Model 12 40G Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Wolseley Limousine
Neat photo received from Michael Turner (UK) hoping we can identify the car his grandfather is photographed in. He was a chauffeur in Surrey and this was either just before of just after the 1914/18 war. Shame we cannot see the registration plate. -- Distinctive rad, oil filler above the running board by the spare wheel confirms the make, and the presence of the drivers 'door' the age. This is a cca 1912 Wolseley Limousine, either 16'20 or 24'30. Year later Wolseley was UK largest manufacturer.

1912 Wolseley 16'20 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Mendip Two-seater
Interesting photos featured on Mark Humphrys' genealogy website (Eire) showing an unidentified two-seater owned by Grandfather's brother Michael O'Rahilly.  -- Not an easy one at all. Very distinctive bullnose radiator top which does not match any of the mainstream makes. Most bullnoses have a domed surface to the edge without the flat section. Many makes were considered and discarded and although  not  all  features  match,  we feel  this is  a cca 1915 Mendip Two Seater.

1915 Mendip Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 AV Monocar
Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK) have a fascinating website where amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to the Norwich architect Edward Boardman and his family. "Humphrey 1920" -- See item below. John Carden sold Carden Engineering to Ward & Avey who carried on with the Carden but also made a new car on the same design, the 1919/24 AV Monocar. This was a single seater with an overhanging rear air cooled 5 or 8hp engine. 

1919 AV Monocar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Carden Cyclecar
Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK) have a fascinating website where amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to the Norwich architect Edward Boardman and his family. This photo reads 'A tiny car and crowd of admirers. How Hill Mill 1921'.  -- Very unusual Carden Cyclecar designed by John Carden in 1919 in Farnham. 480cc single later 654cc rear mounded air cooled JAP engine. More than 1,000 cars built.  Registration is London, winter 1921. 

1921 Carden Cyclecar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1919/26 Disguised America Car
Another photo received from Tom Cosens (UK) saying he thinks the Noah's Ark photo was taken in Berwick-on-Tweed -- Feel is American? Just post WW2. Split screen and no wiper visible. Windscreen seems rectangular. Ribbed rounded mudguards with overhang, rather than flat.  Sidelights would have been added to comply with UK law. Covered-in skirt and sides to springs below  radiator area.  Lots  of wheel  spokes. A guess cca 1919  Buick ,  or better perhaps a cca 1926 Chevrolet Truck.

Disguised American Vehicle, possibly cca 1919 Buick

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Wolseley 10 Doctors Coupe
More identifications of vehicles on the website run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK). Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years old. Car belonged to her father who was the local Doctor. -- This photograph shows a nice polished, possibly relatively new cca 1923 Wolseley 10 Doctors Coupe. The registration letters visible are PW #98 which is Norfolk  County Council issue, '23-27.

1923 Wolseley 10 Doctors Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Gwynne Eight Tourer
More identifications of vehicles on the website run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK). Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years old. This photo asks if they all fitted in the car. -- No way. This is a relatively unusual small car made in small numbers. It is a cca 1923 Gwynne Eight Tourer of which only 2,250 were made in Chiswick in London. Photo printed wrong way round,  as reg letters first.

1923 Gwynne Eight Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Morris Oxford Bullnose Coupe
More identifications of vehicles on the website run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK). Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years old. This photo relates to the making locally of the film "Conflict of Wings". -- This photograph shows a film shoot where the centre of attraction is a cca 1925 Morris Oxford Bullnose Coupe. These convertible coupes were introduced 1924 for 1925 season.

1925 Morris Oxford Bullnose Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1926 Ford Model T Touring
Another lovely photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania. Looks like a Ford but what year and model?  --  Ford it is, and with a transverse spring, it has to be a Model T.  Model Ts were made between 1908 and 1927, and a total of over 15 million were produced. Cannot be later than 1927 when they ended, and cannot be earlier than 1925 when only  six  bonnet louvers were replaced by  multiple  louvers.

cca 1926 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Wolseley 16'45 Viper Tourer
More identifications of vehicles on the website run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK). Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years old. -- This photograph is believed to relate to moving house. The car is a rather well used cca 1927 Wolseley 16'45 Viper Tourer. Note the bent sidelamp on the front wing. The registration letters visible are YH which is London County Council issue, spring  1927.

1927 Wolseley 16'45 Viper Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 AC Six Cabriolet
Interest expressed in more information (UK) on car in the 'fatal?' car crash scene in the Christmas Special episode of Downton Abbey which suggests hero Matthew Crawley is being written out -- Used in one of the early episodes and in House of Elliot. DVLA say it is December 1927, 1991cc, green, currently in use. Newall has EX 1945 as Great Yarmouth CBC: 3/25 and 3/26, so 1926. On the IMCDB film website the earlier episode describes it as a 1927 AC Six, Cabrio.  Bonnet louvers so 26/27. 

1927 AC Six Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Thomond Sports
Interesting photos on Mark Humphrys' genealogy website (Eire) of family cars including an interesting prototype involving his Grandfather Dick Humphreys. -- The car called  a Thomond is shown in encyclopedias as built by A J Jones of Dublin. The first vehicle was built in 1925 and was the first car constructed in the Irish Free State. The second car in 1929 was designed by Grandfather, possibly the 12'48 with a Meadows engine.  A Saloon car followed in 1930.  The no 2 car was rebuilt in 1933.

Irish made Thomond Cars 1925-29

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Ford CX Saloon
More identifications of vehicles on the website run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK). Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years old. This photo relates Red Roofs. -- This photograph must have been taken during the WW2 period as the car is carrying blackout headlights. Also suggests winter as rad muffler is on. This is a British  cca 1936  Ford CX Saloon , reg. Norwich CC  Autumn '36.

1936 Ford CX Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1953 Jowett Jupiter Special
Another unusual car being investigated by AutoPuzzles, and is one which we have identified. Being quite uncommon, and therefore useful in spotting similar cars, it warrants a mention in these pages. --  Although quite an obscure car, actually we are not that clever in identifying the vehicle mainly because we have seen it very regularly at our meetings where it was brought by one of the members of our Society. This is a  1953 Jowett Jupiter 1486cc Special  owned by Bill Ray.

1953 Jowett Jupiter Special
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