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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 54 below relates to enquiries received
during
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1900
Peugeot Vis-a-Vis
Interesting photos featured on Mark
Humphrys' genealogy
website (Eire)
showing an unidentified Vis-a-Vis owned by Grandfather's brother
Michael O'Rahilly. --
Identified by our John Warburton from
the vertical steering column with 'handlebars' control on top,
and tubular substantial chassis. This seems to be a cca
1900 Peugeot Vis-a-Vis and closest
match in the Peugeot book is the Model 26 available with 3,4 or 5 HP
engine options, twin cyl. horizontal, 3 forward
speeds & reverse.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Regal Rear Entrance Tonneau
Another interesting enquiry from Juha
Kaitanen, Turku, (Finland)
with a newspaper report saying the Regal car was owned by Vilho Wallin
from Turku and sold in 1907 to Isak Julin from Tampere, and that it was
made by DeDion Bouton. -- The
Regal was supplied by O C Selbach of London/Paris but was actually
manufactured by Lacoste & Battman in Paris using De Dion Bouton or
Aster engines. L&B made cars for various manufacturers who put their
own name on them, including '
The Regal '.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Cundell 16'20 RE Tonneau
Another puzzling photo received from Joao Ferreira
(Portugal)
notated " A 1902 Cudell driven by his importer Joćo Baptista
Dotti on the way to Ericeira", a fishermen village on the coast,
north of Lisbon. -- While
we agree with the maker, we think this is a cca
1904 Cudell 16'20 Rear Entrance Tonneau.
Cudell 1898-1908 made alligator bonneted cars until 1904. In 1904 they
had a major fire and Hungarians Podvinez & Heisler bought licence
to make the Cundell-Phoenix. Cundell exported to USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Laurin & Klement Type A
Another photo received from Adrian
Pascu-Tulbure (UK)
relating to a blog on historic cars of Romania. Another challenge if
you would be so kind - the attached car, owned by a northern Romanian family
before 1908.. -- Made
by the company started 1905 who was soon to be the biggest car
manufacturer in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in Mlada Boleslav. I
visited the current factory many times in the 1960s. This is a cca 1906
Laurin & Klement Type A Voiturette. Grew to
become Skoda!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1906 Winton Model K Touring
Very picturesque photograph received from
Peter Johnson (UK) of
a car at Pont Aberglaslyn in Wales. He would love to know what type it
is and some idea of the date. He thinks the registration is London.
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The scuttle is very British but such gorgeous front 'dumbirons'
suggest foreign. Shaft drive. Has an AA badge which were first issued in
April 1906. Reg is London CC, early 1906. Far away from home, being a
Cleveden, Ohio, built cca
1906 Winton Model K Touring, 4 cylinder
30hp.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Passy-Thellier 16'20 Landaulette
Interesting enquiry received from Juha
Kaitanen, Turku, (Finland) saying
that a Mr. Fritz Arthur Juselius of Pori visited the Auto Show in
Stockholm in 1907, and there he bought a car manufactured by Mendelsohn
& Co in Paris. No trace of the make on the internet? -- The
"Mandelssohn" car was
actually built by Passy-Thellier in Levallois Perret in France, 1903-07.
It seems that one of the Directors was a E G Mendelssohn-Bartholdy,
relative of the famous composer, hence name.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Probably cca 1907 FIAT Tourer
Another glorious photo received from Joao Ferreira
(Portugal)
which shows a car being pulled out of a major pothole by a couple of
horses. Can we help with the maker of this car? -- Not
easy because the photograph is so small and of poor quality. It is the
detail that provides the identification, and not much of that is
available. Styles of radiators and bodies were very similar in that
period. Suggestions that it could be a Mercedes or Napier, from
cap, but most likely a cca 1907 FIAT
Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911 NSU 10'20 Tourer
Unusual car being investigated by
AutoPuzzles, and is one which we have identified. Being quite uncommon,
and therefore useful in spotting similar cars, it warrants a mention in
these pages. --
This car was manufactured by a company which stared out in Knitting
Machines in 1873, changed to bicycle manufacture, then motorcycles and
eventually cars in 1905. This is a German cca 1911 NSU 10'20
Tourer. NSU name came from local rivers Necar
and SUlm.
Became Volkswagen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
De Dion Bouton Tourer
Interesting photos featured on Mark
Humphrys' genealogy
website (Eire)
showing a De Dion Bouton and two unknown cars. The 1911
De Dion Buton owned by Grandfather's
brother Michael O'Rahilly is interesting as it was used in the
makeshift Princes' Street barricades in Dublin during The Rising in
1916 of the 1916-23 Irish Revolution. The body had been made by a
Dublin Coachbuilder O'Grady's of Dawson Street, - green.
Perhaps first body manufactured in Southern Ireland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
MAF Two-seater
Unusual car being investigated by
AutoPuzzles, and is one which we have identified. Being quite uncommon,
and therefore useful in spotting similar cars, it warrants a mention in
these pages. --
This car was manufactured by the son of the founder of Piccolo Car
Company in Germany. Hugo Ruppe built cars near Leipzig under the company
name Markranstater Automobil Fabrik, 1908 to 1921. This is a cca
1911 MAF Two-seater, probably 8'10.
They failed in 1921, selling factory to Apollo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Warren M12 40G Touring
Another photo received from Adrian
Pascu-Tulbure (UK)
relating to a blog on historic cars of Romania. Photo seems c 1910
European. -- This
one is very complicated and all pointers are that it is an American
rather than a European car. Layden at AACA has come up with a
suggestion which is difficult to discount, a cca
1912 Warren Model 12 40G Touring.
These cars were made in Detroit between 1910 and 1913, and later
sold by a Philadelphia company. But how come to
Romania?
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Wolseley Limousine
Neat photo received from Michael Turner (UK)
hoping we can identify the car his grandfather is photographed in. He
was a chauffeur in Surrey and this was either just before of just after
the 1914/18 war. Shame we cannot see the registration plate. --
Distinctive rad, oil filler above the
running board by the spare wheel confirms the make, and the presence of
the drivers 'door' the age. This is a cca 1912 Wolseley
Limousine,
either 16'20 or 24'30. Year later Wolseley was UK largest manufacturer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Mendip Two-seater
Interesting photos featured on Mark
Humphrys' genealogy
website (Eire)
showing an unidentified two-seater owned by Grandfather's brother
Michael O'Rahilly. -- Not
an easy one at all. Very distinctive bullnose radiator top which does
not match any of the mainstream makes. Most bullnoses have a domed
surface to the edge without the flat section. Many makes were
considered and discarded and although not all
features match, we feel this is a cca
1915 Mendip Two Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1919
AV Monocar
Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK)
have a fascinating website
where amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to the Norwich architect Edward Boardman and his
family. "Humphrey 1920" -- See
item below.
John Carden sold
Carden Engineering to Ward & Avey who carried on with the Carden but
also made a new car on the same design, the 1919/24
AV Monocar. This was a single seater
with an overhanging rear air cooled 5 or 8hp engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921 Carden
Cyclecar
Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK)
have a fascinating website
where amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to the Norwich architect Edward Boardman and his
family. This photo reads 'A tiny car and crowd of admirers. How Hill
Mill 1921'. -- Very
unusual Carden
Cyclecar designed by
John Carden in 1919 in Farnham. 480cc single later
654cc rear mounded air cooled JAP engine. More than 1,000 cars
built. Registration is London, winter 1921.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1919/26 Disguised America Car
Another photo received from Tom Cosens (UK)
saying he thinks the Noah's Ark photo was taken in Berwick-on-Tweed --
Feel is American? Just post WW2. Split
screen and no wiper visible. Windscreen seems rectangular. Ribbed
rounded mudguards with overhang, rather than flat. Sidelights
would have been added to comply with UK law.
Covered-in skirt and sides to springs below radiator area.
Lots of wheel spokes. A guess cca 1919 Buick
, or better perhaps a cca 1926 Chevrolet Truck.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Wolseley 10 Doctors Coupe
More identifications of vehicles on the
website
run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK).
Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years
old. Car belonged to her father who was the local Doctor. -- This
photograph shows a nice polished, possibly relatively new cca
1923 Wolseley 10 Doctors Coupe.
The registration letters visible are PW #98 which is Norfolk
County Council issue, '23-27.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923 Gwynne Eight Tourer
More identifications of vehicles on the
website
run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK).
Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years
old. This photo asks if they all fitted in the car. -- No
way. This is a relatively unusual small car made in small numbers. It is
a cca
1923 Gwynne Eight Tourer of which only
2,250 were made in Chiswick in London. Photo printed wrong way
round, as reg letters first.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925 Morris Oxford Bullnose Coupe
More identifications of vehicles on the
website
run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK).
Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years
old. This photo relates to the making locally of the film "Conflict
of Wings". -- This
photograph shows a film shoot where the centre of attraction is a cca
1925 Morris Oxford Bullnose Coupe.
These convertible coupes were introduced 1924 for 1925 season.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1926 Ford Model T Touring
Another lovely photograph from our regular
contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Looks like a Ford but
what year and model? -- Ford
it is, and with a transverse spring, it has to be a Model
T. Model Ts were made between
1908 and 1927, and a total of over 15 million were produced. Cannot be
later than 1927 when they ended, and cannot be earlier than 1925 when
only six bonnet louvers were replaced by
multiple louvers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Wolseley 16'45 Viper Tourer
More identifications of vehicles on the
website
run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK).
Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years
old. -- This
photograph is believed to relate to moving house. The car is a rather
well used cca
1927 Wolseley 16'45 Viper Tourer. Note
the bent sidelamp on the front wing. The registration letters visible
are YH which is London County Council issue, spring 1927.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
AC Six Cabriolet
Interest expressed in more information (UK)
on car in the 'fatal?' car crash scene in the Christmas Special episode
of Downton Abbey
which suggests hero Matthew Crawley is being written out.
-- Used in
one of the early episodes and in House of Elliot. DVLA say it is
December 1927, 1991cc, green, currently in use. Newall has EX 1945 as
Great Yarmouth CBC: 3/25 and 3/26, so 1926. On the IMCDB film website
the earlier episode describes it as a 1927
AC Six, Cabrio. Bonnet louvers
so 26/27.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Thomond Sports
Interesting photos on Mark Humphrys' genealogy
website (Eire)
of family cars including an interesting prototype involving his
Grandfather Dick Humphreys. --
The car called a
Thomond is shown in encyclopedias
as built by A J Jones of Dublin. The first vehicle was built in 1925
and was the first car constructed in the Irish Free State. The second
car in 1929 was designed by Grandfather, possibly the 12'48 with a
Meadows engine. A Saloon car followed in 1930. The no 2 car
was rebuilt in 1933.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936 Ford CX Saloon
More identifications of vehicles on the
website
run by Ludham Village in the Norfolk Broads (UK).
Amongst numerous other headings they have a number of pages of
photographs relating to resident Nita Townsend who was over 100 years
old. This photo relates Red Roofs. -- This
photograph must have been taken during the WW2 period as the car is
carrying blackout headlights. Also suggests winter as rad muffler is on.
This is a British
cca 1936 Ford CX Saloon , reg.
Norwich CC Autumn '36.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1953
Jowett Jupiter Special
Another unusual car being investigated by
AutoPuzzles, and is one which we have identified. Being quite uncommon,
and therefore useful in spotting similar cars, it warrants a mention in
these pages. --
Although quite an obscure car, actually we are not that clever in
identifying the vehicle mainly because we have seen it very regularly at
our meetings where it was brought by one of the members of our Society.
This is a
1953 Jowett Jupiter 1486cc Special owned
by Bill Ray.
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