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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1901
Toledo Model B Steamer
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching ancient machinery. Can we name the make?
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Made in USA in Toledo, Ohia, by the American Bicycle Company (see
HP 03), then one of USA's largest
cycle manufacturers. This is a cca
1901 Toledo Model B Steamer 6.24HP
Twin, with unusual condensing radiator. Condensing radiators were
compulsory in the UK, not standard in USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906
White Model E Steamer
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile
historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name
make?
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The large high radiator suggests it is a steamer built in Cleveland
Ohio by the White Motor Company. No discernable side to the radiator
suggests this was the cca
1906 White Model E Steamer. President
Taft had a steamer in 1911, after which they changed to petrol driven
cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Ford Model R Runabout
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile
historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery.
Noted on many websites as a Model T.
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Not a Model T ! It is a Ford, but it is one from the earlier Model N
range built 1906 to 1908. As this one has a running board it is a cca
1907 Ford Model R Runabout,
front engined 4-cylinder 2.4 litre 15 HP engine at US$750 and available
in dark green, 2500 built.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
BSA 15'20 Two-Seater
Lovely photo received
from Amanda Wlson (Australia)
of Great, Great Grandfather's car. The photo was taken in Bega,
NSW, Australia. Not sure what year or what type of motor vehicle. Any
help would be great. --
Not had one for months, then three on the same page! This is a
cca 1909 BSA Two-Seater, probably
15'20, with rather an unusual body and a rather unusual waterproof
cover over where the Dickey seat would be at the back. Perhaps
coachbuilt area for specialist equipment/cargo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910
Daimler Tourer
Another rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a photo which
seems to be notated as 1910. He thinks car in the showroom window is a
1926 or '27 Oakland?
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Well spotted! The car in the window is showing a bit of the humped
radiator and also the headlamps with the distinctive swirly glass
pattern of the lens. The two together suggests the car is a cca 1926
Oakland Greater Six. The front car is a British cca
1910 Daimler Tourer, probably 25HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
1912 BSA 15'20 Tourer
Another rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle
which is unidentified on more than one website. Can we help with
advising name of manufacturer.
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This one has created much head scratching as it seems to have a rose
emblem badge on the radiator? Our Ariejan Bos is sure it is a British
BSA but not sure of model. If so, probably the cca
1912 BSA 15'20 Tourer. BSA logo was three
guns (similar HP
20 ). Now advised is a 15'20 that still
exists.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1912
Peugeot OR
Vindec Motorcycle
One of a number of interesting photos sent
to us by Andrew Kostin, Moscow (Russia). Can we
identify unknown motorcycle in 1926 USSR. -- Difficult
as we do not have view of an exact comparison. Primary identification
feature is the unusual Truffaut front forks used by various makes. Main
contender is French Peugeot from the initials on the tank (but Peugeot
Freres engine mainly twins?). Also German Allright (sold in UK as
Vindec: engines FN, Peugeot and JAP) has the same features.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Brennabor 5'12 Tourer
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as an identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching ancient vehicles. Can we name the make/s?
-- Photo
believed from New Zealand and therefore this group of vehicles is a
very curious bunch. One Brit and two Germans. On right is relatively
unusual car being a cca
1911 Brennabor 5'12 Tourer made by
Europe's largest pram manufacturer. Cars ended 1933, was Soviet Zone
1945.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Star 10'12 Tourer
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as an identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching ancient vehicles. Can we name the make/s?
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Photo is believed from New Zealand and therefore this group of vehicles
is a very curious bunch. One Brit and two Germans. The British car has
a a big star on the radiator suggesting this is a cca
1912 Star 10'12 Tourer made in
Wolverhampton from 1898 to 1932. Became GUY.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Sperber 6'20 Doppelphaeton
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as an identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching ancient vehicles. Can we name the make/s?
-- Photo
believed from New Zealand and therefore this group of vehicles is a
very curious bunch. One Brit and two Germans. The one in the middle is
very unusual car built by NAW in
Hamlen in North Saxony, who built Colibri and NAW. This is a cca
1913 Sperber F4 6'20 Doppelphaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Berliet AM3 15HP Torpedo
Interesting photo received from our Michel
Gosset (France) investigating
on behalf of one of our Members the history of a car he
currently owns but which was used in WW1 by Général Berdoulat of the
Battle of the Somme fame.
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This photo shows the General in a fur coat sitting beside a freezing
chauffeur and with a frozen aide in the back. The car is a cca
1913 Berliet AM3 15HP Torpedo. Berliet
cars were made in Lyon from 1894. In 1906 Berliet sold licence to
American ALCO.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Berliet AM3 Torpedo
Continuing background from our Michel
Gosset (France) investigating
on behalf of one of our Members the history of a car he
currently owns, used in WW1 by Général Berdoulat of the
Battle of the Somme fame.
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This postcard shows the Berliet
many years later, c1961, when owned by a scrap dealer known to Michel
at Chateau de la Cordiere Museum, card notated " ..as owned by
General Bedoulat, Grand Quartier General of Petain at Verdun.
Automobile Museum South West - Lucien Mette."
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Hotchkiss AD20 Phaeton
Interesting photo received from our Michel
Gosset (France) investigating
on behalf of one of our Members the history of a Berliet AM3 car he
currently owns but which was used in WW1 by Général Berdoulat of the
Battle of the Somme fame.
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This photo was associated with the researches on the Berliet and Michel
wondered if it was a Delaunay Bellville. No, it is a cca
1913 Hotchkiss AD20 Phaeton.
Delaunay had fully circular rads. Hotchkiss had the flat at the bottom.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Mitchell Touring
Another rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating an
unidentified vehicle found on the internet. Can we advise if this
photograph has been reversed and can we name make?
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Very close up investigation reveals the sign on the rad cap is reversed
and car is LHD. When flipped, sign is right and car is RHD
suitable for Antipodes. The car is American, built in Racine,
Wisconsin, and is a cca
1913 Mitchell Touring, poss a
Model 5-4 40, or 5-5 50hp.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
BSA 13.9HP Crichton Tourer
Another rather splendid photo received from Mark
Dawber (New
Zealand) investigating a vehicle
which is unidentified on more than one website. Can we advise if car believed photographed in New Zealand is a BSA?
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BSA was a British company 'Birmingham Small Arms Co' founded 1861
that made guns, bicycles and later motorcycles and cars, that purchased
British Daimler in 1910. Car seems to have three guns logo on the radiator so is a cca
1913 BSA 13.9HP Crichton Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Sunbeam 12'16 Landaulette
Lovely photo received from David
Oborn (UK)
of chauffeur Grandfather
William Leonard Oborn taken in 1914 at Beer, East Devon. Later owned a
Landaulette offered for hire and then started a Garage. Would like to
know the make/model of car registered at Plymouth, but index card for
CO 885 is sadly missing. --
CO 885 was indeed Plymouth CBC but no available dating records pre 1921
when 3750 was reached. Could be a 'cherished plate' because this is a cca
1913 Sunbeam 12'16 Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Vauxhall A12 Two-Seater
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching unknown machinery. Can we name make?
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The photo was notated as Napier on the Taupo Road. Not a Napier, but is
a British car, made in Luton, designed by Laurence
Pomeroy, and was the first 20HP car to exceed 100mph. This is a cca
1913 Vauxhall A Type Ascot A12 Two-Seater
Torpedo. Vauxhall A's made 1908 to 1915.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Adler 12'30 Phaeton
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile
historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name
make?
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It seems the car was possibly photographed in Jamsa Finland. It was
however manufactured in Frankfurt, Germany, and is a cca
1914 Adler 12'30 Phaeton. Adler became
known for their front wheel drive Trumpf models in 1930/40s. Motorbikes
post WW2, and later office machinery.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916
Renault EG 4x4 Truck
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching unknown machinery. Can we name the make?
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The photo was notated WW1 Latil, 1898 to 1955, a French four-wheel
truck introduced 1911. We are relatively sure this is another French
make with a similar scuttle radiator. Rad suggests a 8.5L cca
1916 Renault EG Four Wheel Drive Truck
introduced 1915, 978 built.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
Kelly Springfield Truck
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as an identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching ancient vehicles. Can we name the maker?
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Number of manufacturers in the USA used bulkhead radiators on
commercial vehicles, MACK probably the best known. From horisontal
louvres on front, this however is the lesser known cca
1919 Kelly Springfield Truck, probably
larger K50/K60. Company finished C1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921
Fordson Model F Tractor
Another interesting photograph well worth
sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid, and found while surfing the internet in the process of
researching ancient machinery. Can we name the manufacturer?
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Rather lovely and very curious photo of a tractor pulling a motorcycle
sidecar. The tractor is pre-1924, cca
1921 Fordson Model F made by Henry
Ford in America, Ireland and UK. Although cute, the photo seems posed, as
the sidecar is hard wired to the front spoke!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Singer Porlock Sports
Couple of lovely photos received from
Richard Perrin (UK)
of his father and mother in their
car in 1933. He understands it was a Singer Boat tail. Can we confirm?
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Yes to both Singer and boat-tail, but boat-tail body is normally very
pointed at the back; this one has a dickey seat and spare tyre there.
Rather special car named after the 100 ascents of Porlock Hill Somerset
in 1928 by a Singer Junior 8HP Sports 2-seater. A new model appeared in
1929 to celebrate, called the "
Porlock Sport ".
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Triumph Super Seven Saloon
An unusual period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
saying "You have helped me ID many postcards of classic cars in
the past but here`s something unusual.... a negative. Any ideas? --
We have inverted to positive and added tone. Registration is UP 4###
which is Durham County Council late 1930. The car was made by a company
that started in 1887 making bicycles in Coventry, motorcycles in 1897
and cars in 1921. This is a cca
1930 Triumph Super Seven 7.9 Fabric Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Morris Cowley Saloon
Not a very helpful photo received
from Les Robbins (UK)
taken in July 1947 probably in the UK, but possibly in Australia; it is an old
family picture. Is it unusual to have the handles next to each others?--
No, quite common, as were the other permutations. Car looks British
from the window wind deflectors, and identified by our Tony Oakes as a cca
1935 Morris 20 Cowley Saloon. Numerous
very thin louvers suggest the not-before year. Various differing Cowley
models made 1915 to 1958.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1953
Chevrolet 210 Seadan
Relatively recent photo received from
Charles Dagenais (France) asking
if we can identify the car, please, from a video screen capture at The
Chantecler, a Laurentian ski resort, north of Montreal, during winter
1955-1956.--
American make probably built in Oshawa, Canada. The primary
identification feature is the the three vertical bars in the grille
signifying this is a
cca 1953 Chevrolet 210, probably a two
door sedan. From only a partial photo it is difficult to be precise on
the exact model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED
cWW1 Landaulette
Puzzling photo received from Caryl Bowles (Mrs) (UK) saying
"I am a member of Gargrave Heritage Group and wonder if you could
identify the car in the photo? --
Looks relatively easy but it has so far beaten all our wise sages. None
have been able to give a definitive identification. Wheels are of Riley
Detachable type used in UK and Europe, including by De Dion. Feel is
French and Leon Bollee has been mentioned. Two of our experts have also
mentioned the French Gregoire independently.
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