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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:
SVVS HELP PAGES EXCEED 2,000 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1901
MMC 'Miniature Panhard'
Another puzzling interesting photograph
received from our
regular contributor
Stewart
Would (UK).
Charles Edward Howell was the manager of the York City and County Bank
on Beverley Road, Hull. Probably this is him with his wife Frances and
step-daughter Christina in 1904 ? -- Difficult
one as bonnet familiar but has frontal lower radiator. Advised by our
Ariejan Bos that this is a cca
1901 MMC 'Miniature Panhard'. It was
equipped with an Iden-modified 1 cyl. De Dion engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Odsmobile Curved Dash
Lovely period photo received from Rev Dr
David Steers (UK) asking if
we can identify the vehicle on a glass lantern slide. Assuming
about 1903. Early Liverpool registration and poss taken on Princes
Avenue, Liverpool.-- Registration
K 218 is Liverpool CBC whose registrations started Dec 1903 so more
likely 1904/5. The car is American, made in Lansing Michigan on world's
first automotive assembly line which made 19,000 in 1901-7;
a cca
1904 Odsmobile Curved Dash 5HP Two-Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1907
Napier 60 HP Speedster
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand)
was intrigued by this photo. -- Photo
has been widely disseminated throughout the web as "Ralph Coffin
jumping his horse over Sylvanus Stokes's Rolls Royce, Washington,
1916". May originate from Library of Congress. Attributed to Harris
& Ewing, and to Hurst Vitagraph. Horse is called Rabbit - but
the car is NOT a Rolls Royce. It
is British
c1907 Napier 60'90
Speedster, but perhaps built in Jamaica
Plain, USA. Strange extra front coil shocks.
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EARLY INFORMATION NEEDED:1908
Mercedes Simplex 35HP Tourer
Interesting enquiry received from Harry
Hickling (Australia)
on the subject of a 1908 Mercedes Simplex 35HP, Chassis No 371, Makers
Number/Engine Number 2662, Commission No. 6596' 1125. Believed
commissioned in UK after delivery to Milnes Daimler 1909. By 1914
car was in Australia, earliest owner either Sir Rupert Clarke or Andrew
Spence Chirnside. Barker Body and Rudge Whitworth wheels. Became Station
Managers car at Isis Downs Queensland. -- Early
history sought!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Cartercar Model L Touring
Non informative photo received from 'Craig
in Virginia' (USA) with
a cryptic comment of " Can you identify this vehicle, not the dude?
Thanks for trying," -- So,
not much we can learn about the photo and the 'dude' will obviously
remain as anonymous as Craig has asked. The car fortunately is far from anomalous
because it has a relatively readable badge on the radiator saying 'Cartercar'.
High rad cap, shape of wheelhubs and of doors, advise a cca1911
Cartercar Model L Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Straker Squire 15 HP
Very interesting period photo received from
Jim Kennard of Nelson, (New Zealand) of
his grandfather taken in 1913/14. He came
to UK 1915, joined the Army, and died 1917. The picture was taken in
Argentina where he had a ranch. Mentions sending car engine parts to
Argentina to fix a car, which he says is a Daimler or Lanchester. --
Which
is not this one ! This is also a British car, a more unusual one, being
a
cca 1913 Straker Squire 15 HP MK2 Two-Seater,
made in Bristol.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Wanderer & 1913 Praga
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we came across a Wikipedia Website Page called
Unidentified Automobiles where they are asking for vehicle
identification.-- Photo
notated 'Levico, Auto Reserve, Car Cleaning' with soldier spraying car
with water hose. The car right, was made in Chemnitz, Gerany and is a cca
1914 Wanderer 5'12 Tourer. Car behind was made in Prague Czechoslovakia,
a cca 1913 Praga Alfa
Tourer, - many sold to Austro-Hungarian
Army.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Ford T and Hupmobile
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by
Spidermonkey
(UK) asking if
anybody can help identify the castle and, if good enough eyesight, the
cars. -- The
building was easy enough being relatively local, and is Battle Abbey,
built on site of the Battle of Hastings. Cars are tiny so no luck with
the backward landaulette in right back corner. Car on the very right is
a right-hand drive pre-1916
Ford Model T . Car on left is more
difficult but high headlamps suggest another American, a cca 1914
Hupmobile.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915
Crane Simplex Model 5
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we came across a New Brunswick Free Public
Library Website Page showing a number of interesting
unidentified vehicles.
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Photo is notated 'Car Wreck N 68, NJ 1915 and looked interesting because of
unusual front
suspension arrangement, a pair of shock absorbers affixed between
the front axle and headlight stanchions. Could well be same car,
wrecked, as on our previous page, a New York built cca
1915 Crane Simplex M5.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Porthos Charabanc
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by
Treetotal (UK)
on the subject of identifying old Charabancs and asking if
anybody can identify the vehicles depicted on a photo notated 'Charabanc
1919'. -- Fortunately
both vehicles show the radiators which is unusual for charabanc photos;
most show only the rear part with people in. Our Ariejan Bos helped with
both advising that the charabanc on the left with a circular radiator
was pre-WW1 French cca1915
Porthos Tourer converted to Charabanc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916
Rochet Schneider Charabanc
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by
Treetotal (UK)
on the subject of identifying old Charabancs and asking if
anybody can identify the vehicles depicted on a photo notated 'Charabanc
1919'. -- Fortunately
both vehicles show the radiators and this one full registration. MX 8074
was Middlesex c1916. Our Ariejan Bos helped with both advising that the
charabanc on the right is a also a French vehicle, made in Lyon, so a cca
1916 Rochet Schneider. Became Theophile
Schneider, later Berliet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Maudslay Charabanc
Period photo sent in to Rootschat on the subject of identifying old Charabancs and asking if
anybody can identify the vehicle depicted on a photo notated 'The Shooters at The Wheatsheaf
1920'. -- Fortunately
this vehicle shows the registration so dating can be relatively
accurate. WA 1115 was a Leeds County Borough Council registration
between 1919- 1924, so probably cca 1920. The writing on radiator is
just about readable confirming it is
therefore a
cca 1920 Maudslay Charabanc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
GWK Type F/H
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by
Wilcocon
(UK) asking if
anybody can help identify the the car make from a cropped
hand coloured postcard of Wrexham dated 1922. Suggestions of Benjamin or
Lagonda. -- Registration
XE 6496 was London County Council late 1920. It is not a Benjamin nor a
Langonda but a car made by the Grice, Wood & Keiller Company in
Maidenhead in Berkshire. This is the later cca 1920 GWK Type F/H with
shaft dive to friction disc. 1,700 cars made 1919 to 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Studebaker Special Six Touring
A number of interesting photographs
received from Amy Tillson (UK) saying
all vehicles belonged to Mr Wigan of Brandon Park in Suffolk in the
1930s. 'Breaking New Ground', as lottery funded organisation are
restoring the Engine House/Garage where the vehicles were kept. --
No registration to help in dating but many features point to it being American.
Made by company started in 1852 in Indiana making horse wagons.
This car is a cca
1921 Studebaker Special Six Model EH Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
Standard 14HP SLO Two-Seater
Interesting enquiry received from Lindsay
Sawyer (Scotland)
asking if we can identify the car in the photo? It must be dated about
1930; the old gent in the dickey seat was my great uncle who died in
1938. Many thanks. -- Registration
KL 1099 is Kent County Council
issue of late 1924. From the curved dickey seat this would be a cca
1923 Standard 14HP SLO Two-Seater and Double Dickey.
Four Cylinder 1307cc engine, 55mph, 35mpg, no front brakes; cost £235.
10,000 cars made in 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Daimler Charabanc
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by
Treetotal (UK)
on the subject of identifying old Charabancs and asking if
anybody can identify the vehicles depicted on a photo notated 'Belgian
Arms Hull, 1923'. -- This
vehicle shows the registration AT 7656 which is Kingston-upon-Hull CBC
1904-1925, but dating records are not available. Fortunately photo
shows the radiator and the outline of the maker's name is visible. From
having modern wheels/tyres, a cca
1923 Daimler Charabanc, poss CK2.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Standard 14 Open Tourer
A number of interesting photographs
received from Amy Tillson (UK) saying
they would be very grateful if we are able to help them identify
any of the vehicles in these photos! They're from c1930. --
Regretfully the front of the car is not fully visible so cannot see
Registration which would give us accurate dating. The radiator core is
wrap-round, bonnet has four louvers, there would seem to be no front
brakes, and has low slung headlamps, which points to cca
1924 Standard 11'14 Open Tourer .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
FATA Aurea Series 600
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
the car is? --
Excitingly rare car recognised by Frazer Sloan as Italian Aurea, made
in Turin, by Fabbrica Anonima Torinese Automobili. As 'FATA' in name, suggests
cca 1925'26 FATA Aurea Series 600. Factory close to FIAT and made
under Ceirano ownership. Exported only to UK and Austria, - and via
UK to Australia.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925
White Model 15'45 Charabanc
A couple of photo-of-photos received from
Michal Owens (USA) saying
he would love to identify vehicle his grandmother is in, in what looks
like a parade. Poss taken c1936/7 in
northern Arizona near Mogollon Rim where grandmother had summer home.--
These two photos were a bit distorted so corrected. Vehicle is a cca
1925 White Model 15'45 Bus
with Bender Body, one of 90 purchased 1920
by the Yellowstone Park Transp. Co. Fire destroyed all fleet so
new batch of 90 purchased 1925.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928
BSA 770 Motorcycle Combination
A number of interesting photographs
received from Amy Tillson (UK) saying
they would be very grateful if we are able to help them identify
any of the vehicles in these photos! They're from c1930. --
These two photos were submitted as two vehicles but are the same
combination. Registration on one photo is visible as CF 8122 which is
West Suffolk County Council 1928. On the other photo is just possible
to see BSA on the tank. So, this is a
cca
1928 BSA 770cc V Twin Motorcycle & Sidecar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
REO Speedwagon Bus
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
the vehicle is? --
Made in Lansing, Michigan, USA, by Ransom E Olds who started Olds in
1897, but left in 1905 to form REO Car Co. Added truck manufacturing
which eventually took over in 1936. This is a cca
1929 REO Speedwagon Bus. Speedwagon
name introduced in 1915 until 1953. Became Diamond - REO to
1975.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931
Standard Avon 16HP Coupe
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on a big website on line.
Looks like a British car from the 1930s, vaguely reminiscent of an
Alvis, but much smaller. The radiator mascot looks like a pointed 'A'. -- Unusual
car but one is on our Help Page 75. This is a Kent County Council
registered late 1931
Standard Avon 16 HP Close-Coupled Coupe,
Weyman Panelled, advertised priced £325, 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1960
Wartburg 311 Limousine
One of a number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who
is a collector of old photos. Can we identify snapshot taken on 1967
showing Soviet Army soldier posing by a car somewhere in the Eastern
Europe. -- This
is a vehicle manufactured in Eisenach in Eastern Germany founded
in 1896 as FFE making a licensed Decauville. In 1903 it became Dixi who
were taken over in 1928 by BMW; EMW in 1952. This is a cca 1960
Wartburg 311 Limousine (56-65).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified
Romanian Speedster
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
the car is? -- None of our experts could nail it because it
may be a 'special'. Overtones of a Hispano? Found some Romanian text
saying the chaps were a transport company who also did some racing in a
possibly an Opel or a Studebaker or a French racer. Not Opel, not
American, not yet found anything French?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified
Cars at Schloss Berg
Anoher photo received
from Turtle Bunbury (Eire) who is trying to
identify the make of the vehicle on the right.. The collection of three
cars is captioned " T Schloss Burg, Germany, 1913" . The Drew
family went on a road trip to Germany that year. -- Another
we regretfully cannot identify because people are
blocking out all ID features and photo is simply too small and dark to
enlarge detail of the cars at back. Bodywork does not help as it would
have been made by coachbuilder.
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