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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
Page 72 below relates to enquiries received
during
2014 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909
Argyll Ambulance
Another lovely period photo received from
Tom Robinson, Editor of the Sheffield Transport Study Group (UK)
saying he spotted this photograph in Vintage Commercial issue for
May 1963 and thought it would be an interesting item for their
magazine, but can we identify it? Sheffield issue W 999 would be about
1906. -- Bit
later. Number of our experts agree this is a cca
1909 Argyll Ambulance, possibly on the
16'20 chassis. Cars had rectangular rad core but commercials fancier
bottom.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Peugeot Type 117A Landaulette
Lovely period photo from Peter
Anderson (UK) showing grandfather Raymond Gorton on right had side of
the runner. Grandfather's mother was the grand-daughter of Samuel Watts
who was the co-founder of Watts Warehouse in Manchester, then the
largest single-occupancy textile warehouse in Manchester.
-- This took a
little sorting out and thanks to lots of help we can advise this is a
French cca
1909 Peugeot Type 117A Landaulette,
four cylinder 4.6 litre. A posh car at over £500.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
RAF Type H Double Phaeton
Cinema screen grab from a Yugoslav
co-production film "Assassination in Sarajevo " made in 1975 where the
cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about the
assassination of Franz Ferdinand and start of WW1. --
Not a country noted for interest in old cars so all are a bit strange
and had a Czech bias. This one was a puzzle until Ariejan Boss advised
this car was made by the Reichenberger Automobil Fabrik, now Liberec CZ
R, and that the car is cca1909 RAF Type H10 Double Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1912 Opel 16'35 SE Tourer
One of a couple of photos received from Pär
Sörliden (Sweden)
which he took at the Laganland Car Museum in Sweden about seven years
ago. He does not have any other information than that the museum said
the Opel is from 1909. --
The museum does not feature on the
Laganland website, so could be closed. The bodywork seems 1909 but the
rad does not. Probably Opel but badge is missing. Radiator, square
lipped mudguards, and wheelnuts, are more like a cca
1912 Opel 16'35 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1917 Riker
3 Ton Military Truck
Lovely period photo from Bill
Stothard, Cudworth Local History Groupon (UK)
saying he knows that commercial vehicles are not our specialty, but can
we help with the identification of this truck. Second from left is
Oliver Fry Stanley who served WW1 in RASC in Italy, France &
Egypt. --
Identification from Mike Sutcliffe saying this is American cca 1917
Riker Military Truck, just after they changed name from Locomobile.
Andrew Riker built electric cars in 1887, and became Locomobile
technical brain.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
GN Standard Cyclecar
Lovely period photo received from George
Fridlington (UK)
saying he is currently tracing his ancestors and has this picture of his
Ggreat /Great Grandfather, a Mr. Singleton taken outside his home in
Aldeney Edge, Cheshire. Can we advise make of car and date made . --
This is an early cca
1919 GN Standard Cyclecar
designed by H.R. Godfrey and Archibald Frazer Nash. This car has gas
lighting. Company restarted after WW1 in 1919. Became British Gregoire
and later licenced to French Salmson Co.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Horstman 9'20 Four Seat Tourer
Interesting photo spotted by our Publicity
Officer Tony Russell in a cafe in Reigate, Surrey (UK)
while waiting for a cup of coffee, and he
was interested to know what it was as the photo was not marked ?
-- British Car with a very
German name. This is a cca
1924 Horstman 9'20 HP Four Seat Tourer, made
in Bath Somerset. Make can be determined from the very unique radiator top and
the model/year from the headlamps on the wings. Started 1914, made
1,500 cars, raced in '20s, ended 1925.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Fiat 509 Two-Door Torpedo
One of a couple of photos received from Pär
Sörliden (Sweden)
which he took at the Laganland Car Museum in Sweden about seven years
ago. He does not have any other information. --
The museum does not feature on the
Laganland website, so could be closed. The car is a cca
1925 Fiat 509 Two-Door Torpedo. It is a
four seater, it has no bulge bonnet-to-the-bodywork, has a windscreen
support frame, but appears to have American style headlamps, and
has a curved headlamp tie bar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Latil Charabanc
Another puzzling photo received from
Numaweb site (Switzerland)
with a request for the identification of the vehicle. 'Congratulations
you are too strong!' No further background
on the picture was provided. -- We
asked for a higher resolution copy of the photo and for some further
background on the event, but have not received any subsequent replies.
We can advise that this is a French
cca 1927 Latil Charabanc, probably
based on the 1.5 ton Chassis. Became part of Saviem in 1955.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
DKW P15 Cabriolet
Another from a batch of photos received from Georges
Truffaut (Belgium)
from postcards they are trying to
identify. He thinks the first looks like a military vehicle, could it be
FN?
-- Not Belgian nor
a military vehicle. Made by the 'Steam Driven Car Co', later DKW, in
Germany. Became world's largest motorcycle manufacturer in 1930s. Merged
with Audi, Horch and Wanderer to form Auto Union. Last DKW car made in
1966. This is a 15hp two-stroke 584cc twin cca
1929 DKW P15 Cabriolet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
1930 Buick 40 Sedan
Another from a batch of photos received from Georges
Truffaut (Belgium)
from postcards they are trying to
identify. He thinks this car could be from the USA possibly Buick ?
-- Pressed
steel wheels so we thought German rather than American. As the
original photo is of small resolution, we requested a bigger version but
did not get one. Therefore we had a bit of a guess at either Audi or Horch.
George however is sure it is a cca
1930 Buick 40 Sedan, so we had a
review and agree could be.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931
Lancia Lambda Torpedo
Lovely photos received from Trevor
Stewart, New York (USA)
saying he came across our amazing website and could we help with
identifying these taken at his great grandfather Edwin John's home in
West Clandon, Surrey, UK. --
SC is a Scottish Edinburgh registration and 9000s were in 1931. This is
rather interesting because the car is therefore an Italian cca
1931 Lancia Lambda Torpedo which were
made only up to 1931, so this could be one of the last made. V4
2569cc 69HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933
MG Model L2 Magna
Another lovely period photo received from
David Milsom (UK)
saying his Mother is in the car and Grandfather is next to it. It did
not belong to either but possibly to the owner of the mill where Grandad
worked as Engine Tenter, in Meltham, West Riding of Yorkshire. The date
on the back is 1933. --
Our MG experts scratched heads a bit, not J or K or N, so eventually
agreed this is a cca
1933 MG Model L2 Magna. Has a vacuum
windscreen wiper motor, flared wings, and split seven
louvers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Singer 11HP Saloon
Quirky photos received from Simon Powell (Caymen
Islands)
showing his father aged 24 and his younger sister Anne. They lived with
parents in Cheadle Hulme, Manchester. Car was bought for £15. Mother
said the car was a wreck and doors would fly open on bends. Used house
bolts to keep them shut. Father always used to tell her it was a Rover,
but that's to be taken with a pinch of salt. --
Not a Rover but a 1934 Singer 11HP Saloon.
Apparently stated by Singer as one of the best cars they made.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Chevrolet Series EC Sedan
Another photo received from Charles
Mercure (France)
saying 'Since you are doing such a good job, here attached is another
request'. License plate is 1938, the car belongs to my grandfather,
children are mother's sister and brother, the setting is rural, north
from Montreal, visiting relatives. --
Car is American, same year, make and model as the previous photo but is
a cca
1935 Chevrolet Model EC Sedan.
Could be on the model change to 1936 because the front door is opening
rearwards.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Chevrolet Model EC Phaeton
Lovely period photo received from Charles
Mercure (France)
saying the photo was taken in downtown Montreal, Canada, in the mid
1930's. The car belonged to his grandfather and the little girl is his
mother. Location is close to grandfather's shop. --
Car is American and is a cca
1935 Chevrolet Model EC Phaeton. Dating
is pretty accurate from the badge on the radiator (started 1935) and
three bar louvre (only two in 1936) and as this vehicle is a convertible
soft top it could not be the model ED.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936
Ford Model 68 Fordor Sedan
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- Yes
we do, after a couple of recent failures! This one is American
again, and can be dated from the grille and the louver pattern to
to one year, 1936. This is a cca
1936 Ford Model 68 Fordor DeLuxe Sedan.
DeLuxe cars had twin horns placed behind small grilles in the
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1939
Hillman Minx Saloon
Cinema screen grab from a British film "The
Adventures of Hal 5" made in 1958 where the
cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is for children about
a car registered HAL 5 purchased by a local vicar. Local garage owner attempts
to swindle the car away but is thwarted by vicar's nephews. --
HAL 5 is a 1928 Austin 7. The car in the foreground of this shot is a cca
1939 Hillman Minx registered at Croydon
CBC. Looks like a 1956 Middlesex registered Hillman Minx Convertible in
the garage.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1957
Rover 60 P4 Saloon
Cinema screen grab from a British film "The
Adventures of Hal 5" made in 1958 where the
cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is for children about
a car registered HAL 5 purchased by a local vicar. Local garage owner attempts
to swindle the car away but is thwarted by vicar's nephews. --
HAL 5 is a 1928 Austin 7. The car being investigated in this instance is
the one in front of the house. This is a cca
1957 Rover 60 P4 Saloon , 2L 60BHP
engine which was used in the Early Land Rover.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Mid
60s Special Body
Interesting enquiry received from Christine
Hood (UK)
selling an Austin 7 Special body, and wondered if we could add any info.
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Our Austin Seven Special racer John Caddy advises not having seen something
like this before! Not reminiscent of a known production Austin? Probably
from the heyday of Sports
Specials
in 60s-70s. Reminds him a little of a Riley Special. Rebuild of an
Austin Special would be in region of £10K. Last Special body on Ebay
reached £3, so possibly no great expectations
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1971
Alpine-Renault A110 Berlinetta
A number of sectional photos received
from Ted Green (USA)
asking if we can identify this car he spotted on the road in Chicago and
photographed on the move. --
The Car is French, made by the company
Alpine (pronounced Alpeeen) started by Jean Redele, a Dieppe Renault
dealer. Cars used rear mounted Renault engines of the uprated Dauphine
and Gordi types. This one is a cca
1971 Alpine Renault A 110. Alpine won
the Monte Carlo in 1971/3. Renault bought them out in 1973.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:2000
Mitsuoka Viewt K11
Interesting photo being
investigated by George Layton (Thailand),
asking if it is a Japanese car ? --
Yes, actually a Nissan Micra known in Asia as the Nissan March, bodied
by the Japanese automobile company Mitsuoka Motors in Toyama City, who
are a coacbuilding company which puts own bodies on current production
Nissans. This is a cca
2000 Mitsuoka Viewt K11
which is supposed to resemble the the British 1963 Jaguar Mk 2.
Has 1L or the 1.3 L engine, manual or auto, leather extra.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unidentified
c1900 Vis-a-Vis
Very puzzling photo received from
Tobias Frank (Germany)
doing genealogical research on his family, possibly taken in the Benelux
area or France. -- Not
really possible to hide very much more of the car!!
No specific ID features are visible.
All our experts have come up with a different make. Suggestions
include Opel Lutzman, Vivinus, and De Dietrich (Amedee Bolle). To
me, tubular chassis, rear spring hanger and steering link suggest
a cca 1901 Georges Richard 3.5 Pony Voiturette. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unidentified
Open-Drive Limousine
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- No,
and neither it seems does anybody else!! We have tried all our
in-house and external experts and our friends at the AACA in case
it was American. Nobody had any ideas although consensus has it at
European. Blurry wheel logo possibly suggests AK? So, Unknown
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified
1920s Charabanc
Another puzzling photo received from
Numaweb site (Switzerland)
with a request for the identification of the vehicle. 'Congratulations
you are too strong!' No further background
on the picture was provided. -- We
asked for a higher resolution copy of the photo and for some further
background on the event, but have not received any subsequent replies.
None of our experts have come up with an answer. From the wheels, it
Looks like a car based charabanc. Any help much appreciated.
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CARS ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. ANY ASSISTANCE MUCH
APPRECIATED
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