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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1898 Benz Velo
A couple of photos received from
Roger Paine (Canada),
the other we are still having some difficulty in investigating. He also
sent us this older photo of his grandparents under which his mother had
written "possibly a Benz". --
Mother was quite right as this was indeed a cca 1898 Benz Velo. Karl
Benz made the first petrol engined car to run successfully. The first
four wheel car the Victoria appeared only five years before the car in
the photo was made! Lighter Velo started 1894.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1900'02
Mors Rear Entrance Tonneau
Two photos received from
Joćo Ferreira (Portugal) taken in
Lisbon circa 1902. The first photo is titled "Av. da Liberdade
1902" and the second photo shows the reg LX-37, municipality of
Lisbon, number 37. Could be Mors? -- While
I had some reservations, our John Warburton agrees the cars are 1900/1902
Mors Rear Entrance Tonneaus. He feels
the blurry photo shows a 1900-01 car
and the the other a 1902. Cars were rapidly evolving so
differences likely as cars were built on an individual
basis.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
Berliet re-bodied Tourer
One more of a number of photos received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. Photos
originate from Busteni near Brasov. -- From
the badge on the rad this is quite obviously a French Berliet made near
Lyon. The only problem is that the radiator style does not match the
body style. The radiator with narrow top side boarder says cca
1908 Berliet,- which was later
re-bodied with round bulkhead in cca 1911/12.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1910 Locomobile Model M30
Lovely period photo received from Sherman
Warner from Hawai'i (USA)
of a car photographed in Pahala which was a sugarcane plantation on
Hawaii having a sugar refinery. Sherman thought the car may be a
Cadillac. -- Not
a Cadillac because Cadillacs generally have a curved top to the
rad whereas this one has an angled hard shoulder. Layden at the AACA
suggested Locomobile and indeed furter research suggests this is a cca
1910 Locomobile Model M30 Tourer
made in Bridgeport.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:pre
1915 Ford Model T Special
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. This is a
new photos to his collection originating from Orsova while it was not
part of Romania. --This
looks very much like a 'special'. Transverse springing suggests it is
based on a Model
T Ford and having non-electric lighting
suggests the base car must have been built pre 1915.
Difficult photo to identify precisely!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1917 Ford Model T Touring
Nice period photo received from
Cath McPherson (UK)
asking if we can help to identify the car in the attached
photograph. They think it may be her grandfather at the wheel and the
photo was probably taken in Lanarkshire. The registration appears to be
V-5012. -- Registration
V was indeed Lanark County Council cca 1917/18 which ties in with the
features of the car which is a cca
1917 Ford Model T Touring. Interesting
to note that the car is left hand drive
suggesting USA not UK origin.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1919 Ford Model T Touring
Small definition photo received from Alan
Hagstrom of Hugo, Minnesota (USA)
asking if we can please help him identify the year and make of the auto in the
attached photo for his family archives. We would
repeat our request to send photos at BEST RESOLUTION possible, as it is
the detail that provides the identification. --
Fortunately it is relatively easy to recognise the make but lack of
detail leaves the year a little vague. Demountable rims, 1 man top, so
car is a cca
1919 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1919 Pierce Arrow Coupe de Ville
Smashing photo of an unusual car received from
Kathy Fagan Rocha (USA)
of her Great Grandfather, Charles Frederick Fagan, who was
chauffeur to William S. Paley, founder of Columbia Broadcasting System
(CBS). Can we help her identify the automobile please? -- The
unusual shape of the headlamps is the prime pointer as to the make of
the car. Made in Buffalo USA this is a cca
1919 Pierce Arrow Coupe de Ville. Body
could be in-house, but could have been Judkins or Le Baron.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Marmon Model 34 Touring
One more of a number of photos received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. He advises
photo is in poor condition --
Indeed it is, having been double exposed.
Fortunately the most important part was visible which was the radiator
and the curious badge. With the help of Keiser at AACA saying the badge
with a 'nose' is a Marmon, further reserach advises it is an
American cca
1920 Marmon Model 34 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1922 Ford Model T Special
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
This is a rather splendid photo which
required repairing. It shows an Americam car with very home made
seating. Transverse springs identify it as a Model T. Electric lights
suggests it must be after 1915 and a little undertray by the starting
handle that it was made after 1921. So
cca 1922 Model T Ford Special.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1923 Delage DE Tourer
One of three photos received from John
Meriton (UK) saying
he has just discovered our site and would like our expertise in
identifying and dating the cars. This one shows a car outside
great-grandfather's sea-side house, Kingsgate, Kent c. 1926-30.
-- Registration
XW 561# was issued by London County Council late 1924. The car is quite
exotic being French made just outside Paris by a manufacturer who was at
the time winning many Grand Prix. It is an expensive cca 1923 Delage DE
Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1924 Chanard & Walcker Torpedo
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
Photo shows a rather magnificent car with a
splendid torpedo botatil body. The primary pointer to the make is the
raised eagle motif of the radiator badge. Fourth largest car
manufacturer in France at the time and the first manufacturer to win the
Le Mans 24 Hour Race: cca 1924 Chanard & Walcker Sports Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Citroen Model B2 Tourer
Photo received from Dimitry Dashko (Russia)
asking if we can please help him identify
the car on a photo taken at a 1925 Military Parade in Moscow. --
The photo has been distorted and needs to
be narrowed left-to-right by quite a lot. This is done, the car is a cca
1924 Citroen Type B2 Tourer. Details
match: radiator, badge, windscreen shape, petrol filler cap by the
windscreen, tierod etc. The mudguards are rounded rather than flat,
suggesting 1924. Headlamps seem Cibie rather than Marchal.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Oldsmobile F28T Touring
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. Photos
originate from Orsova while it was not
part of Romania. -- Help
from friends at the AACA identified this as a cca
1928 Oldsmobile F28T Touring.
Same-way-opening-doors confirm year. Interesting to note that the wheels
are wrong and would have been changed later presumably
for ease of local availability of tyres.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Buick Master Six Touring
One more of a number of photos received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. Photos
originate from Busteni near Brasov. -- Happy
group picture with a chauffeur in the background. American car again,
built by one of the oldest US car manufacturers and the foundation of
General Motors. Most popular upmarket car of the day. The
winged radiator mascot says cca
1927 Buick Maser Six Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1929 Morris Cowley Saloon
One of three photos received from John
Meriton (UK) saying
he has just discovered our site and would like our expertise in
identifying and dating the cars. This one shows Great Aunt sitting on
running board in the 'twenties, location unknown. --
Our Chas Moody confirms this is a de-luxe
with wiper, mirror, and front wheel brakes cca 1929 Morris Cowley
Saloon, three wheel studs and year confirmed by two-tone bodywork
available that year; either stone & brown or stone &
maroon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1929 Essex Six Challenger Sedan
Interesting photo received from Chris
Morgan of Sheffield (UK)
of a family picnic where his father is having a gentile cup of tea. He
spoke a lot about a Lanchester. Could this be it lurking behind the
group? -- Sorry
no, not a Lanchester. Our Tony Oakes advises it is an American Essex of
cca 1928/9. The interesting swage line at the back of the body, only two
windows, a double row of louvers and front doors being of the 'suicide
type' suggests this is cca
1929 Essex Challenger 4 Door Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
Ford BB Pick-up
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. This is a
new photos to his collection originating from Orsova while it was not
part of Romania. -- Four
cow-powered mug plugger from America. Little difficult from the
angle of the photo to tell the exact body of the car but from the rear
window it looks very much like a truck: a cca
1932 Ford Model BB. Strange
wiper?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1933 Morris Cowley Saloon
Interesting photo received from Chris
Morgan of Sheffield (UK)
of a car ran by his paternal Grandfather as a commercial traveller for
Hartleys. The lady is his Aunt whose driving instruction on a bullnose
Morris consisted of the delivery driver taking her once round the block
and then getting his train home. Is this a Morris? --
Indeed it is. The precise model was defined
by our Chas Moody who spotted the detail on the rear bodywork found only
on cca
1933 Morris Cowley Traveller's Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1934 Standard 12 Saloon
One of three photos received from John
Meriton (UK) saying
he has just discovered our site and would like our expertise in
identifying and dating the cars. This one shows his Grandfather c.
1940s-50s. It is not known where the photo was taken. --
Registration AYR 996# was issued in May 1934. The photo was taken from a
difficult rear three-quarter angle and with the front obscured which
does not make it easy but our Tony Oakes spotted it as a cca
1934 Standard 12 (16?) Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1935 Opel Six Cabriolet
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
Lovely family group photo with a very rural
mountain backdrop. Car has distinctive American features at the front and
strictly European features at the back. With the help of Pepcak at AACA
we have nailed this one down to a cca
1935 Opel Six Cabriolet. Opel were made
in Germany and became fully General Motors in 1931.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1935 Aero 30 Sports
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which
appeared in a Romanian film "Oglinda" made in 1993,
where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Controversial WWII storyline about
Romanian royal coup that toppled the dictatorial Prime Minister. --
The car is relatively unusual being built in Prague Czechoslovakia. It
is a cca
1935 Aero 30 Sports, quite a popular
sporty car 65mph from twin 998 cc engine, front wheel drive and independent
suspension. About 3,000 of this car were made.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca 1938 Mercedes Benz 170V
Cabriolet
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
Photo taken near 'Dracula's Castle',famous
Bran Castle area of Brasov County. Certainly a magnificent mountain
backdrop. The car is a little difficult to date because this model was
made from 1936 to 1953. Judging by the indicators being inboard and the
cabriolet roof being central, - cca 1938 Mercedes Benz 170
Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca 1920 Unknown Wreck Romania
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. This is a
new photos to his collection originating from Orsova while it was not
part of Romania. --Another
difficult photo to identify precisely! I hope no passengers
in the car when it got hit. Few dating pointers. Look wooden wheels, no
front brakes but electric lighting so probably soft
top tourer just post WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: Unknown
American Tourer
Interesting photo received from Chris
Harlow, Colorado (USA)
who has been unable
to identify his great grandfather's car. The photo was taken ca. 1909 in
northern New Jersey (USA). Clues to him: small dimensions of sidelights
and protrusion at the bottom of the oil reservoir; lamps mounted
high; single bonnet strap; fender flare at the forward edge, mild bend
of the front axle -- None
of our experts have come up with any ideas. Higher res photo
may make out name on rad!
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we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
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