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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905'6
Star 10HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicles in
garage in Christchurch. --
Our Star owning expert Neale Lawson
advises photo likely taken at Scott Bros, later Vauxhall agents. No
control levers on steering wheel so not the 14HP, and trembler coil
size suggest 4 cylinder car. This would seem to be a cca
1905'6 Star 10HP Tourer. As
Christchurch Star Cycle Co had name fist, cars were called Stuarts to
WW1. Star was taken over by Guy Motors, closed 1932
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Bliss 30HP Touring
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which have not been
identified and which we put aside for later study and investigation.
-- This
looked a nice easy 'Germanic' looking car on a US New Jersey
numberplate, - that defied all investigation and had to be refereed to
our Ariejan Bos who advised that this was an exceedingly rare expensive
cca1906 Bliss 30HP Touring manufactured in New York, and that only 10
were made at $5,000, when Ford $750.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
De Dietrich 40'50 Tourer
Fascinating photo posted on the AACA
website by PWhiteneck (USA) asking
for identification. Photo was taken in USA 1913 and relates to Milton Hershey
of the chocolate bar fame. --
Car is French made by a Luneville rail rolling stock company that
employed Ettore Bugatti to design car based on Turcat-Mery. Equidistant
rim to radiator suggests a
cca 1906 De Dietrich 40'50 Tourer.
British version had shaft drive. The company name was changed to
Lorraine-Dietrich to emphasize location.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Darracq 20'32 Tourer
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled 'Suffolk; Ye Ancient
House, Ipswich'.
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possible to make out the London County Council Registration LC 2K
series being 1905/6. French car from English owned company run by Frenchman
Alexandre Darracq, having one of the many radiator changes during few
short years. Medium car so would seem to be cca
1906 Darracq 20'32 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Daimler 35HP Tourer
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled 'Terminus
Hotel Grounds off Chatsworth Road. Chesterfield, July 1912.
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possible to makr out the first letter of the registration so no help in
dating. The 'chunky' looking early Daimlers were largely before the
Knight engine. The larger engined models had lots of wooden spokes,
This is probably upper range
cca 1907 Daimler 35HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
&1912 Unic Taxis
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which have not been
identified and which we put aside for later study and investigation. Is
the car on right a Hotchkiss. --
Registration BJ were issued by East
Suffolk County Council. Car on the left was registered 1912, middle
late in 1912 and right 1907 with 'round' rad but has vertical sides, so
is a French cca 1907 Unic, The left and middle cars are also cca
1912 Unics, probably the 16'20HP, very
popular taxis in UK.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Mitchell Model E Runabout
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which have not been
identified and which we put aside for later
study and investigation. -- This
seems to have as slightly European look so investigation took longer
than necessary, so we sent it to our Ariejan Bos who advises it is a cca
1907 Mitchell Model E Runabout made by
a carriage maker Mitchell-Lewis in Racine Wisconsin making cars from
1903 to 1923 when it folded. Nash Motors bought the Mitchell factory.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Panhard Levassor 18'30HP
Fascinating photo posted on the AACA
website by PWhiteneck (USA) asking
for identification. Photo was taken in 1913 in Egypt. The Great Pyramid
is in the background. -- Photo
relates to Milton Hershey who was an American chocolatier who invented
the Hershey Bar and built his own company town of Hershey, Milton Hershey
standing, wife Kitty in the
car. Care was built in Paris France by company started 1887, defunct
2012. This is cca 1908 Panhard Levassor 18'30HP Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Delahaye Type 25'35 Limousine
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on Dutch Facebook page. Suggestions
car could be a Sunbeam or Leon Bollee? --
This would seem to be a French luxury car
built in Tours by company that started in 1894 by Emile Delahaye a
railway wagon engineer who started producing steam engines. Started in
cars 1898. This is a cca 1908 Delahaye Type 25'35
Limousine. Delahay
boubt Delage 1935, merged with Hotckiss in 1954. Closed by Brandt in
1956.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Lanchester 28 HP Surrey
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which have not been
identified and which we put aside for later study and investigation. --
The photo is a bit fuzzy so difficult to
see any details. Car seems to have no bonnet which suggests a
Lanchester. It has a separate rear section, so post'06 with doors
and has a tall wide radiators suggesting 1909+
and as it seems to have a steering wheel is 28HP. So, a cca
1909 Lanchester 28 HP Surrey. Normal
shape post WW1
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Russell Model L Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicles in
garage in Christchurch. --
Photo taken at W B Scott Motors, later Vauxhall agents.
These two are very unusual cars having been built in Toronto by Canada
Cycle & Motor Co. Initially Electric cars 1903, and petrol 1905.
Offices in UK, Australia and New Zealand. Big car on left has support
bracketry lo tall rad so is a cca
1908 Russell Model L Tourer, in bits
an earlier 1907 Model E. Sold to Willys-Overland 1916.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Rossel Racing Car
Puzzling photograph posted on the AACA
website by Wayne Sheldon (USA)
who is intrigued by it and would like to know what it is. Photo
was taken in Europe? --
We are not into racing car
identification but did some research and it seems this is a French
racing car made near the Swiss border by ex-Peugeot Frederic Rossel
making big 35, 60 and 80 CV T heads of 12 litres etc. Found copy of
photo headed "Gaste
on 6 cylinder Rosel car 1911".
Branches Paris, New York etc. Taxis in Vienna.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Panhard Levassor X19Torpedo
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which have not been
identified and which we put aside for later study and investigation. --
Interesting photo of unknown location.
Seems very rocky terrain and car is carrying three spare tyres. Desert
background but gent on left is in full morning dress. The roundel on
the radiator helps to identify the car as French made, and no scuttle
filler as being cca
1912 Panhard Levassor X19 10 HP Torpedo.
Last car in 1967.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Siddeley Deasy 18'24
Limousine
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on
a Facebook page relating to a London scene in the 1920s. --
Yes, a cca 1913 Siddeley Deasy 18'24
Limousine. Firm started 1906 by Captain Henry Deasy who left 1908,
replaced by JD Siddeley from Wolseley. Became Siddeley Deasy 1912,
bought by Armstrong Whitworth 1919, and renamed Armstrong Siddeley 1919, to last car 1960. Bought by Sopwith's Hawker Aircraft,
merged with
Bristol Aero.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
ZIP Two-Seater Cyclecar
Very puzzling photo recerived from Pär
Sörliden (Sweden) looking
for identification of a belt driven little car. Photo
is from Kristinehamn town archives.
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has beaten our experts and two libraries of cyclecars. This is a well
designed and made car. The cyclecar movement went on a bit after the
war and these are sometimes hard to distinguish from their pre-1918
predecessors. Ariejan Bos thinks that this one is from around 1920.
Subsequently identified on Help
Page 157 as c1913
ZIP Cyclecar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Regal Underslung Roadster
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on
a Facebook page relating to the 1918/19 'Spanish Flu' pandemic. --
Spanish Flu infected one third of the
world's population and killed an estimated
50 million people. It was believed to have started in the WW1 trenches
and bought home all over the world by the returning troops. Photo has
Australian numberplates. The car is unusual American cca
1914 Regal Model N 25HP Four Cyl. Underslung Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Harley Davidson 989cc
--1918/19
Spanish Flu infected
third of world's
population and killed an estimated 50
million people. In 2014 a theory was put forward that it first originated in rural China and
came over with the Chinese Labour Corps in 1916 as organised by Sir
Douglas Haig to bring over 90,000 Chinese to replace men being lost in
WW1. They came across Pacific to Canada, then UK, and hence to France
and Belgium WW1 trenches. This Photo is also showing cca
1919 Harley Davidson 989cc M/Combination.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Ford Model T Ford Peerless
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which we put aside for later
study and investigation. -- This
seem cca 1919 Ford Model T, but does have an unusual non-standard radiator
with a dip in the header middle. Bit of research reveals that Corcoran
Manufacturing Co. of Cincinnati, Ohio manufactured the Peerless rad
1917-23. It also made the 'No 12 Combination' a combined
bonnet/radiator module for updating the Model T to the 'modem' look.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Oakland Sensible Six Touring
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which have not been
identified and which we put aside for later study and investigation. --
Looks like a promotional photo because the
car has no number plate, looks quite clean and new, and is located in a
rather unusual setting. Animals in background are easy to identify as
Ostriches but the car proved more difficult being a cca 1920
Oakland Sensible Six Touring made in Pontiac Michigan, in Oakland County.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Orpington 10'12 Two-Seater
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. -- Typical
British-looking light car of just post ww1 period. Found the the very
same photo in the AZ of 1920 Cars as an Orpington
10'12 Two Seater, with 1505cc Coventry
Simplex SV and Moss 3speed gearbox. These were built by Smith and
Milroy in Orpington in Kent between 1920 and 1924 with about 300
made. Marketed as 'The Business Man's Light Car'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1923
Morris Bullnoses
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on
a Facebook page relating to a London scene in the 1920s.
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Both cars in this part of the photo
segment are British post cca
1923 Morris Bullnose. Both have a
split windscreen which helps with dating. Earlier cars had a a
single piece windscreen. Detail is not clear enough to see
identification features beyond that the left one is a Tourer, possibly
an Oxfordm and the right one is a Roadster, possibly a Cowley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Talbot 10'23 Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on
a Facebook page relating to a London scene in the 1920s.
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Registration seems to be XR 82##
which was a London County Council Issue of
early 1924. Nice little car with headlamps on the bar and with curved
edges to the radiator header, suggesting this is a cca
1925 Talbot 10'23 Two-Seater, 1074cc
four with torquetube transmission. From the very complicated Anglo-French
Talbot Darracq organisation.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Armstrong Siddeley 4'14 Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle on
a Facebook page relating to a London scene in the 1920s.
What is the car wit reg YM 8541. --
YM 8541 is a London County Council
registration of early 1926. British car with historic pedigree
of Armstrong Whitworth buying out Siddeley Deasy to become Armstrong
Siddeley, but is their first foray into lower class cars with simpler
rad 1923-29 this being
cca1926 Armstrong Siddeley Four Fourteen Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1950
BMW-Veritas Spohn Roadster
Our Publicity Officer
Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the
lookout for unusual cars and wondered if we knew what this one was?
Photo from new member Chris Caffyn. --
Photo of car recently up for sale at named
$235,000. Made by German race car company turning pre-war BMW
328 cars into BMW-Veritas in 1949. BMW objected, so called Veritas
thereafter, Closed 1950. This ia a
1950
BMW-Veritas 2L SP90 Spohn Roadster, body by Carosseriebau Hermann
Spohn, some made by Baur.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNIDENTIFIED
c1930s Saloon
Another very puzzling photo
received from from Georges Truffaut (Belgium)
of a vehicle he is trying to identify. The licence plate is French -
Paris area (RG) Any idea what car this could be? Probably French
made? -- This
vehicle has beaten our experts and we cannot give a positive
identification. Our French expert's best guess is that it is a
coachbuilt car with four doors. In view of the bodystripe, it could possibly
be a cca 1938 Rosengart LR4 Saloon. Other
ideas appreciated !
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