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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902
Argyll Rear Entrance Tonneau
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British TV Documentary "Nation on Film; Selling
Cars" made in 2006, David Jason
telling a story of how film sold the car before television came
along. --
This looks a little like a Wolseley with a wrap round radiator,
but the straight dumbirons with swinging hangers point very much to a cca
1902 Argyll Rear Entrance Tonneau made
by the Hozier Engineering in Glasgow. Started in 1899 with copied
Renault and still around in 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Motorbloc Two Seater
Gruesome postcard received from Tom Cosens
(UK)
showing a crashed two seater car after an accident near Dunstable. Can
we determine the make? --
We have established that in the accident a Mrs
Nancy Hawant, the driver, was killed when she was overtaking a heavy
lorry and the wheel hubs touched. This occurred on 14th August 1905 on
Watling Street. Her husband and another passenger were injured. Our
John Warburton believes the car was a 'trade' cca
1904 Motobloc Two Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
Deasy 24HP Tourer
Lovely photo posted on the Old Motor
website by Tony Kaye (UK) taken
in about 1908 of Arthur Blackman, his Grandfather's brother. Both were
chauffeurs to wealthy families in London. Photo probably taken at Alton
Lodge in Roehampton, then a village southwest of London. Now a council
estate of apartment blocks. -- Note
transverse spring, round radiator, and 'British' bonnet handle.
RAC badge, so after 1907. John Warburton rightly spotted it was
a cca
1908 Deasy Tourer, prob 24 HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909
Maudslay 25'30 Landaulette
Fabulous period photo received from Peter
Watts of Association of Singer Car Ownershe (UK) showing
his Grandfather (standing) who worked for General Sir Horace Lockwood
Smith-Dorrien and asking if we could identify the car. --
The circles of the outer and inner rims of
the rad are closer at the bottom, not a round badge, has gas lighting.
This is a Coventry made cca
1909 Maudslay 25/30 Landaulette. No
Reg to aid dating, but AA badge has no wings so pre 1911. Steam
engines in 1835.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Sunbeam 16'20 Racer
Exciting action photo received from Chris
Nicholls, Isle of Man, (UK) which
he will be submitting to a photographic competition
and asked our help in determining the make for the title. --
This is a very well known car frequently
seen at veteran competition meets around the UK and normally campaigned
by Hicky Hickling. Quick look at the Celton Manx Classic of 2011
determined that Hicky Hickling came second in the new 'Edwardian Class'
on all three courses in his 1911
Sunbeam 16'20 Racer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Studebaker SA25 Touring
Photo received from Graham Smith (UK)
from his wife's family history collection
of her Grandfather, who was a private chauffeur to a businessman in the
Sunderland area. Graham had trawled through hundreds of veteran and
vintage car images but as yet has not been able to identify what the
car is. -- American
made at the time when the manufacturer was changing branding from EMF.
From the wedged rear door and scolloped bulkhead, this is
cca 1913 Studebaker SA25 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914 Ford Model T Touring
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
Lovely formal photo which seems in keeping
with the age of the car which is a cca
1914 Ford Model T Touring. The grim
little girl sitting on the front mudguard must have been quite light and
the bunch of flowers is almost as big as she is. Interesting to note
that the photographer had asked everybody to look left, but a few chose
not to!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Ford Model T Touring
One of three lovely photos received from
Barbara and Arthur Roberts (USA) showing
their ancestors and
asking if we could identify the vehicles shown. --
This photo is of Arthur's grandfather and
great grandfather. They were taken in New England in the USA, probably
in the early 1900s. They were probably taken in the state of Maine or
Massachusetts where these men lived. This one shows a wooden upright
under windscreen so cannot be later than ca
1914 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Tilling Stevens Petrol Electric
Very small and very blurry photo received from
Eric Sherman (UK)
saying this was his great-grandfathers motor. It was stored at
the old London Transport Museum at Clapham Common until closure mid
1960's. --
Very difficult to work from such poor photos but
from smaller rad size it is a cca
1915 Tilling Stevens Petrol Electric,
a bus or lorry. Petrol engine drove generator providing electricity to
traction motor driving rear wheels. Easier use than
then crash-box gearboxes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916 Autocar XX1-F Truck
One of three lovely photos received from
Barbara and Arthur Roberts (USA) showing
their ancestors and asking if we could identify the vehicles shown. --
This one shows an interesting truck of the
WW1 era that was run from Boston to West Newton, Mass. as it says on
the side of the truck. This is a cca
1916 Autocar XX1-F Truck, very popular
at the time. Autocar were made in Ardmore Pennsylvania, starting with
cars in 1901 and trucks in 1907. Thereafter
trucks became the mainstay.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1918
Rover-Sunbeam 16 Tourer
Nice agricultural photo received from John
Fare (UK)
of a car that belonged to his Great Grandfather. It is the only one he
has and unfortunately it is only a side view. --
Not only that but most pointers to identification
are also hidden by shrubs and cloches. However enough remains to say
Sunbeam and for expert Bruce Dowell to identify it as a
cca 1918 Rover Sunbeam 16hp Tourer. Government
decreed in WW1 that Rover build Sunbeams so SMC could build aero
engines and planes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Hobart-JAP Motorcycle
Series of photos received from Ravindra
Naruka (India)
saying he has just purchased this British old beauty but cannot find
out any info on it. JAP engine and name Hobart on footplate.--
This looks like a
cca 1920 Hobart JAP, probably 300cc.
Hobart Bird & Co of Coventry made bicycles from 1897 and were into
motorcycles by 1901. Manly assembly operation and started with JAP in
1913, V twins by 1915. Became Rex-Acme in 1923. Our bike
expert Robin Vince thinks could be post Acme.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921
Steiger 20'50PS Limousine
Due to an earlier serious virus attack to
our website we appear to have lost the originator of this enquiry so we
cannot provide any details about the photo. --
The pointed
spitzkuhler rad is highly distinctive and is one of a series used by
the German company Walther Steiger & Co, Burgrieden. Steiger were
formed in 1914 and repaired aircraft engines in WW1. Commenced cars in
1920 but were gone by 1925, when Steiger went to the Swiss Martini.
This is a
cca 1921 Steiger 20'50PS Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Chevrolet Superior Touring
One of three lovely photos received from
Barbara and Arthur Roberts (USA) showing
their ancestors and
asking if we could identify the vehicles shown. --
This one is dated 1922 and therefore shows
a new style rad on a new cca
1922 Chevrolet Superior Touring which
was
being driven from New York City to Cincinnati
Ohio; father as a child slept in the back seat and it took 5 days to
make the trip. He told that he saw many cars off the road and that most
had their wooden spokes broken.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923 Opel 21'50 Tourenwagen
We had an invitation from Leif Holmberg
(Sweden) to
visit the website of Automobilhistoriska Klubben where there are many
photographs recently placed of cars needing investigation. --
Spitzkuhler radiator and looks like an
Opel, but as it has has six wheel nuts, twelve spokes front and back,
slanted louvers, bulkhead louvers, windscreen mounted side lights, low
headlamps, etc, it is not the 8'25, nor the 14'38. Identified by
Halwart Schrader as a cca 1923 Opel 21'50 Tourenwagen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925
Norton 16H Motorcycle
Another series of photos received from Ravindra
Naruka (India)
saying he has bits of another British motorcycle and would love to have
it identified. -- Sturmey
Archer gearbox; Springs on forks; long slope top tube ; chain drive;
back brake opposite side to sprocket, downslope and angular profile to
crankcase mag drive; angular profile fins. Confirmed by two of our
experts as a cca
1925 Norton 16H Motorcycle but front
and rear brake later, and forks could be earlier. Tyres too big for
period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Buick Standard Six Touring
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
This one shows a formal family group in
what looks like a relatively new cca
1926 Buick Standard Six Touring. David
Dunbar Buick sold his plumbing and bathtub business in 1899 to form
Buick Auto-Vim to start manufacturing farm and marine petrol
engines.Although Buick company went on to be General Motors, Buick died
ousted poor in 1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
DeSoto K Series Phaeton
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
This one shows a dapper gentleman standing
next to a rather nice cca
1926 Chrysler B70 Phaeton built only a
couple of years after the company was first formed. It had built 36,000
cars in the first year, a record, and by 1927 had risen from 32nd to 4th
in the US car manufacturing league and partaken in a
number of races at Le Mans.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Fiat 514 Saloon
Another photo received from Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) which
was taken in 1936 in Thuringen province of Geramany (TH). He thought
the car may be a Brennabor but the radiator looks different. --
We initially thought early Chrysler Group
but now quite sure the car is Italian cca
1929 Fiat 514 Saloon. As German registered, could be Fiat 521 made in
Fiat-NSU plant in Heilbronn; little to distinguish on the four door
saloons with three windows each side, but 514 is more
'compact'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929 Ford Model A Standard Phaeton
Nice photo received from Tricia Burnett (UK)
asking if we can help identify the make and model of this lovely car?
Her mother is pictured on the right running board, her sister on the
left, and other family member inside the car. She loves this photo and
would very much like to know what the car is. --
Ford A but note that it has the smaller
shorter radiator so has to be 1928/9
Ford Model A Standard Phaeton.
Registration TI is County Borough Limerick, on the Shannon
in Ireland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1939
Oldsmobile 70 Sedan
Lovely photo received from Louis Speer (Australia)
showing a car which he thinks has a New
South Wales registration. He is trying to identify it and any help
would be appreciated. -- Distinctive
frontal treatment makes precise dating quite easy as this style of
grille was only used in one year. This is a cca
1939 Oldsmobile 70 Sedan. What is not
so easy to clarify is that the body could have been made by Holden
Motor Body Builders, purchased by General Motors in
1931 with two plants in NSW.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1939
MG WA Radiator Grille
Series of photos of a radiator grille
received from Jon Deare (UK) given
to his brother-in-law who died recently. It is 26 1/2" high and
19" wide at the top. The imprint from the missing badge is about 3
1/2" square and may have come to a point at the bottom. --
The shape is
very reminiscent of a cca
1939 MG WA saloon or coupe. Top end of
the MG range. Seems had 9 or 10 blades per side. The MG badge assembly
was a screw-on rectangular cap over the top
with a point at the bottom.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Auto
Lite Carbide Lamp
Series of photos of an Autolite Carbide
lamp
received from Mallary Kehoe (USA) gasking
if we can identify what kind of automobile these lovely headlamps would
have been on. Were they from a steamer? --
The Auto Lite
lamp was an American lamp manufactured in Staunton, IL, later in
Chicago, by The Universal Lamp Company founded in 1913 by Jacob S.
Sherman. They made over 9 million carbide hat-lamps mainly
used in mines which included these. No glass
fronts so not from a car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unknown
Car in Australia (FIAT 509?)
Set of photos received from Noel Adams
(Australia) asking
if we had any idea of what it may be. He says it reminds him of a
Lancia. Beyond that we have no other information on the photo or
location. --
We regret this enquiry is a little bit
too specialised for us. Our knowledge base relates mainly to the
general overall veteran and vintage vehicle scene, but regretfully not
always in detail. Details were circulated but no
suggestions came back. Noel has since
identified it as a Fiat
509.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unknown
Tourer in Australia
Set of photos received from Kevin
Ruchel (Australia) of
car we cannot identify abandoned in the desert near Woomera in
South Australia. Crankcase is cast aluminium with cast iron cylinder
block rigidly fixed to the chassis at the rear of the crankcase; no
front engine mount. Generator on front left side. Exhaust manifold with
large brass nut to clamp to pipe. Tail shaft runs inside a tube rigidly
mounted to gearbox & differential. Four brake shoes at each hub,
linings are canvas, ali shoes.
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